How do I ask for a pay raise?

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jiggahertz

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10-20% raise after 6 months seems pretty steep. I get like 4-8% annual raises as a EE in a research position with an M.S. after 3 years.
 

Firebot

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm making about 50k.

Computer Networking.

You want a 10 to 20% raise after working just six months? Good luck with that!

Might as well try, right?

You are very easily replaceable, especially in computer networking industry.
 

Rage187

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Originally posted by: Firebot
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm making about 50k.

Computer Networking.

You want a 10 to 20% raise after working just six months? Good luck with that!

Might as well try, right?

You are very easily replaceable, especially in computer networking industry.


totally agree.

Unless it was stated during the hiring process that you would get a substantial raise after 6 months, don't expect anything over 5-6%.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: Squisher
Do not tell them you need the money because of a personal problem.

ie: my living situation?

I know my main boss on a semi-personal level (I met her through a family friend before I applied)

When you're asking for a raise you must come into the situation at least faking a position of power, not begging because you've somehow messed up something in your life.
I'm not saying to approach it as a drunken rock star, but a certain level of self confidence wouldn't hurt.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Firebot
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm making about 50k.

Computer Networking.

You want a 10 to 20% raise after working just six months? Good luck with that!

Might as well try, right?

You are very easily replaceable, especially in computer networking industry.

Exactly. I once disputed a 5% raise that I got, since my salary at the time was still below the median amount for other experienced System Administrators in my area. My boss told me flat out to get a better offer from somewhere else if I wasn't happy with it.

That was a pretty ballsy move on his part, too, since I've been there for years and was the primary admin on over 60 servers. Many of them have specialized software installed on them that no one else knows, too, so they would be hurting for a few months until my replacement got up to speed.

Remember... anyone in IT is replaceable nowadays if they start getting too demanding.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Tizyler
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm making about 50k.

Computer Networking.

You want a 10 to 20% raise after working just six months? Good luck with that!

Might as well try, right?

It could be detrimental to your career there.

I realize that.

If I don't get it then I will just work somewhere else. Not really a big deal--I would just rather not.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: senseamp
Get another job offer. Then tell them to match it or kiss your @ss goodbye.

Best answer and many of his other ones.

EVERYONE thinks they are worth more than they are and underpaid.

More often than not they should have been let go long ago.

If you interview and get offers you still may be a slacker...but at least you have someone willing to pay you more.

Your personal life means nothing. You can't just say "Hey I can't work here based on this pay because my bills cost more than my salary"....that is unless you are worth it. If you are then you may have to move on.

 

alkemyst

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before anyone attacks me on the EVERYONE line. That is why I all cap'd it. There are many people out there that know they are worth less but overpaid. ;)
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
I realize that.

If I don't get it then I will just work somewhere else. Not really a big deal--I would just rather not.

$50k for just a CCNA is awesome really in most of the country. Here a CCNA is $30-40K at most...I am doing it now it's just a rudimentary cert, the first stepping stone. CCNP is a real starting point though. Personally get that and maybe a CCVP and look at $80K+ Learn to setup a full Call Manager install and you will profit.

There are many Comp Sci majors making less.

I can understand rather not moving on from a nice job, but if straight in the door they were going to pay me 20% more...I'd be an idiot not to take it from anything but a fly-by-night company.

Those that manage people often hear "Company X will pay me [a multiple] of what you are offering me; but I like it here."

Those that manage are thinking "WTF?" most of the time. There are some exceptions and for those there are usually concessions to be made if they are truly pulling their weight even though the company can't afford to pay out.

Being there only 6 months I can't comment on your worth vs their benefit. If I was at this crossroad after 6 months in most scenarios I would be jumping out of the plane and taking my chances without a parachute.

 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I realize that.

If I don't get it then I will just work somewhere else. Not really a big deal--I would just rather not.

$50k for just a CCNA is awesome really in most of the country. Here a CCNA is $30-40K at most...I am doing it now it's just a rudimentary cert, the first stepping stone. CCNP is a real starting point though. Personally get that and maybe a CCVP and look at $80K+ Learn to setup a full Call Manager install and you will profit.

There are many Comp Sci majors making less.

I can understand rather not moving on from a nice job, but if straight in the door they were going to pay me 20% more...I'd be an idiot not to take it from anything but a fly-by-night company.

Those that manage people often hear "Company X will pay me [a multiple] of what you are offering me; but I like it here."

Those that manage are thinking "WTF?" most of the time. There are some exceptions and for those there are usually concessions to be made if they are truly pulling their weight even though the company can't afford to pay out.

Being there only 6 months I can't comment on your worth vs their benefit. If I was at this crossroad after 6 months in most scenarios I would be jumping out of the plane and taking my chances without a parachute.

Yeah I'm working on my CCNP right now. Currently studying for BSCI.

I'm from Seattle but currently working in Spokane, so that is what I meant when I said that I could be making a lot more over there. In Seattle most internships would pay as much as I'm making now :/
 

Greenman

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I once had an employee ask for a raise after just six months, I didn't even say no, I just shook his hand and said "it's been a pleasure working with you".
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
So, how did ya make out?

I haven't done it quite yet. I think I'm going to ask to talk to my manager on Friday.

I was talking with one of my co-workers and he said that the company has "evaluations" in June. He said that pretty much everyone in our department will get a raise--apparently it was a 10% raise last year, but some of the managers are pushing for 15%-20% for our team.

The only problem at this point is that I won't be able to stick around that long, unless I got my raise sooner.