How do countries like England support their military??

[PhoenixOrion]

Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors need the revenue.

How many defense companies are based in England?

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Horus

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

Umm. They fought off the entire German Air Force by themselves, fool. And, if you REALLY think about it, the Russians could have beaten the entire German army on their own.

Germany only had about 30% of her army on the Western Front. Everything else was against the Russians.

Not quite. There were several Polish and Czechoslovak squadrons -- and the USA's Eagle Squadrons showed up in February 1941.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: surreal1221
The US has an excellent military industrial complex. . .
Yes, it does quite well. Europe has quite a strong one as well though.

The US requires war to generate money for the country.
Hardly. Yes, the United States has had two very unusual circumstances where it actually profited from war, but war rarely generates money. It is typically a sink hole.
Ignore, or don't. . . but it's true.

The UK doesn't HAVE to go and bomb the ****** out of people to generate an increase in their GDP.
The UK is frequently right along side us, as well as frequently doing their own thing. France is also heavily involved in Africa. Quite a few smaller European countries also join in on peacekeeping missions regularly.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Horus

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

Umm. They fought off the entire German Air Force by themselves, fool. And, if you REALLY think about it, the Russians could have beaten the entire German army on their own.

Germany only had about 30% of her army on the Western Front. Everything else was against the Russians.

Negative Ghostrider. If Germany had been concentrating fully on Russia, it would have been in trouble for sure. Likewise with the western front.

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: PhoenixOrion
Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors need the revenue.

How many defense companies are based in England?

Enfield, Vickers to name two like you did....

 

[Scouzer]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Horus

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

Umm. They fought off the entire German Air Force by themselves, fool. And, if you REALLY think about it, the Russians could have beaten the entire German army on their own.

Germany only had about 30% of her army on the Western Front. Everything else was against the Russians.

Negative Ghostrider. If Germany had been concentrating fully on Russia, it would have been in trouble for sure. Likewise with the western front.

The Soviets won the war. 85% was the amoint of Germans on the Eastern Front. If you knew more history, you would know its true.

And the British did not fight off the entire Luftwaffe, but they did prevent a collapse of the country until the Luftwaffe gave up.

And to whoever pointed out the Czech and Polish squadrons...if you think they were anything close to a major part of the effort you are dillusional. The US in 1941 were too late for the Battle of Britain, which ended in late 1940. Americans had no effect on that.

 

[iamaelephant]

England is tiny? What does that make New Zealand?

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
England is tiny? What does that make New Zealand?

a movie set?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Horus

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

Umm. They fought off the entire German Air Force by themselves, fool. And, if you REALLY think about it, the Russians could have beaten the entire German army on their own.

Germany only had about 30% of her army on the Western Front. Everything else was against the Russians.

Negative Ghostrider. If Germany had been concentrating fully on Russia, it would have been in trouble for sure. Likewise with the western front.

The Soviets won the war. 85% was the amoint of Germans on the Eastern Front. If you knew more history, you would know its true.

And the British did not fight off the entire Luftwaffe, but they did prevent a collapse of the country until the Luftwaffe gave up.

And to whoever pointed out the Czech and Polish squadrons...if you think they were anything close to a major part of the effort you are dillusional. The US in 1941 were too late for the Battle of Britain, which ended in late 1940. Americans had no effect on that.

Don't be too quick to dismiss the impact of the U.S. (I used to hold the opinion you do). Our industrial machine did more than it's part to keep the russians 'in the fight' and our strategic bombing kept German industrial production flat despite frantic factory building throughout the war period. Additionally, we did tie a nontrivial number of troops down defending africa, italy, and western europe.

 

[SampSon]

They sell lots of tea and crumpets.
I hear bangers and mash are a hot export too.

 

[gotsmack]

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

They followed us down a blind alley and into Iraq, backing us all the way. Debt paid in full.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: gotsmack

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

They followed us down a blind alley and into Iraq, backing us all the way. Debt paid in full.

Comparing Iraq to WWII makes me vomit in my mouth.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Scouzer

Originally posted by: PhoenixOrion
Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and other defense contractors need the revenue.

How many defense companies are based in England?

Enfield, Vickers to name two like you did....

BAe Systems is the biggest.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: gotsmack

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

They followed us down a blind alley and into Iraq, backing us all the way. Debt paid in full.

Comparing Iraq to WWII makes me vomit in my mouth.

Best place for it.

 

[chcarnage]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
It's not like there's a big English Empire anymore, it's just one small island about the size of texas, if that...so how do they support such a large military? For that matter how do countries like Spain do it either?

"Such a large?" The US spend as much for their military as the next twenty countries together.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: chcarnage

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
It's not like there's a big English Empire anymore, it's just one small island about the size of texas, if that...so how do they support such a large military? For that matter how do countries like Spain do it either?

"Such a large?" The US spend as much for their military as the next twenty countries together.

There was chart a chart I had seen that showed how much was spent on the military by different countries. I think America spent something like 400 Billion, and China spent something like 180 Billion Dollars in 2004.

(Not including the money America spent in iraq etc)

 

[chcarnage]

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: chcarnage

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
It's not like there's a big English Empire anymore, it's just one small island about the size of texas, if that...so how do they support such a large military? For that matter how do countries like Spain do it either?

"Such a large?" The US spend as much for their military as the next twenty countries together.

There was chart a chart I had seen that showed how much was spent on the military by different countries. I think America spent something like 400 Billion, and China spent something like 180 Billion Dollars in 2004.

(Not including the money America spent in iraq etc)

Text

This includes the Iraq operation if I'm not wrong.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: chcarnage

Originally posted by: RichUK

Originally posted by: chcarnage

Originally posted by: Accipiter22
It's not like there's a big English Empire anymore, it's just one small island about the size of texas, if that...so how do they support such a large military? For that matter how do countries like Spain do it either?

"Such a large?" The US spend as much for their military as the next twenty countries together.

There was chart a chart I had seen that showed how much was spent on the military by different countries. I think America spent something like 400 Billion, and China spent something like 180 Billion Dollars in 2004.

(Not including the money America spent in iraq etc)

Text

This includes the Iraq operation if I'm not wrong.

That's about right.

 

[Mill]

Let's

put

this

in

perspective

As a percentage of GDP, the US is nowhere near the top. Israel, Greece, Turkey, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Congo, Syria, North Korea, Myanmar, Pakistan, Angola, Kuwait, UAE, Croatia, Colombia, Algeria, Oman, Iraq, Morrocco, Serbia, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Sri Lanka, Jordan, Lebanon, Armenia, Ethiopia, Ecuador, Sudan, Bahrainm, Turkmenistan, Yemen, Cambodia, Brunei, Cyprus, Bosnia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Eritrea, Russia and MANY MANY others spend *more* as a percentage of their GDP than the US does.

The US is not even in the Top 25 in GDP percentage spending on Defense.

http://www.fas.org/man/crs/RL32209.pdf

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: RichardE
They manage it better....


No 200$ toilet seats?

LOL if you think the European governments are so great, move there. The 15-20% unemployment rate deters me.

The UK unemployment rate is 4.7%, the US unemployment rate is 4.8%.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: RichardE
They manage it better....


No 200$ toilet seats?

LOL if you think the European governments are so great, move there. The 15-20% unemployment rate deters me.

The UK unemployment rate is 4.7%, the US unemployment rate is 4.8%.

Really no point in comparing unemployment rates. Most countries measure them differently, and yes thepd7 was being a tard.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: McGyver

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
many hundreds of years procuring(imperialism) and re-investing their wealth?

didn't german blast them back to stone age? and eventually we came to their rescue and never get a thank you, yet.

uhhh....no.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: RichardE
They manage it better....


No 200$ toilet seats?

LOL if you think the European governments are so great, move there. The 15-20% unemployment rate deters me.

The UK unemployment rate is 4.7%, the US unemployment rate is 4.8%.

Really no point in comparing unemployment rates. Most countries measure them differently, and yes thepd7 was being a tard.

The UK and the US measure it the same. Approximately 5% is considered "full employment"

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: RichardE
They manage it better....


No 200$ toilet seats?

LOL if you think the European governments are so great, move there. The 15-20% unemployment rate deters me.

What does your post have to do with wasteful government defense spending?

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: LordMorpheus

Originally posted by: iamaelephant
England is tiny? What does that make New Zealand?

a movie set?

LOL! FTW!