How difficult is Java?

[Zap Brannigan]

I've yet to take a programming course but thats about to change by next week.

 

[Leper Messiah]

um. Not too hard once you learn the way of thinking that is OOP (object oriented programing). If its just a basic course you won't delve too deep into Java.

 

[kogase]

Well, Java isn't a very difficult language as far as they go... of course that's all subjective. The big issue here is not the language you are starting with, but that you are just starting. There are a bunch of general programming concepts that may not be intuitive you will have to wrap your head around before you can start smoothly learning to program... but once you get past that Java is not too hard.

 

[Zap Brannigan]

I'm a programming n00b but hopefully I pick it up quick. lol

 

[igowerf]

I thought the accelerated class was pretty easy, but my friends who had no programming experience thought that even the intro class was really difficult. It's kind of hard to quantify something like this.

 

[Zap Brannigan]

Originally posted by: igowerf
It's kind of hard to quantify something like this.

You call yourself a programmer?!?! lol

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: kogase
Well, Java isn't a very difficult language as far as they go... of course that's all subjective. The big issue here is not the language you are starting with, but that you are just starting. There are a bunch of general programming concepts that may not be intuitive you will have to wrap your head around before you can start smoothly learning to program... but once you get past that Java is not too hard.

Bingo. Programming is all about concepts. Once you learn the concepts, adapting to any language is relatively easy.

 

[acemcmac]

I hate it

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: igowerf
I thought the accelerated class was pretty easy, but my friends who had no programming experience thought that even the intro class was really difficult. It's kind of hard to quantify something like this.

It seems to be a very personal thing. I know some very intelligent people that just plain dont get it. Then I know some people of similiar intelligence for whom the concepts just click.

 

[dugweb]

Originally posted by: Zap Brannigan

Originally posted by: igowerf
It's kind of hard to quantify something like this.

You call yourself a programmer?!?! lol

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: kogase
Well, Java isn't a very difficult language as far as they go... of course that's all subjective. The big issue here is not the language you are starting with, but that you are just starting. There are a bunch of general programming concepts that may not be intuitive you will have to wrap your head around before you can start smoothly learning to program... but once you get past that Java is not too hard.

Bingo. Programming is all about concepts. Once you learn the concepts, adapting to any language is relatively easy.

aye. Its all syntax after that. C++ can be a bit of a PITA sometimes...

 

[Zap Brannigan]

Can it be kind of fun too?

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Zap Brannigan
Can it be kind of fun too?

sure. if you're a detail oriented sort of fellow. Its kinda fun to take all the libraries and crap and program them together and get something cool. If you're creative, its just another avenue to express that creativity.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: Zap Brannigan
Can it be kind of fun too?

It's always pretty cool when you're just starting out. It's exciting to find something challenging, to find a challenging problem and rack your brain for a solution... finding that solution is thrilling. For a little while. You might get a bad instructor though who gives boring assignments, there's always that.

 

[Zap Brannigan]

Cool. I don't want to be a programmer but I hope the class is interesting all the same.

 

[OdiN]

I hated it...but I had an instructor who was chinese with a THICK accent and could hardly understand what she was saying. I'm not that good at Java apparently...passed the class with a C though.

I suppose if I had a better teacher. I did pretty good with Visual Basic but basically my brother taught me a lot of that (he was in the same class) and again the teacher was not that good...but it's just a community college in the middle of the central valley here in CA...so...yeah.

Though the math/engineering department is very very good and challenges people who have transferred from Cal Poly easily.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

System.out.println("Hello World");

That'll help you with your first programming assignment most likely.

 

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: Zap Brannigan
Can it be kind of fun too?

I took Java as my first programming class. It can be be both difficult and fun depending on if you can understand the concepts and remember the commands and stuff.

 

[firewall]

Programming is good so long as it is for fun and you don't go too deep into the language.

Start going into advanced topics with no interest in them and you will be fvcked before you realize it....

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
System.out.println("Hello World");

That'll help you with your first programming assignment most likely.

LOL how true.

Same basic thing in VB when I did that...it's like a standard programming thing...first assignment = Hello World!

 

[Ranger X]

Much easier than C++.

 

[dopcombo]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
System.out.println("Hello World");

That'll help you with your first programming assignment most likely.

I forget. DO you have to import java.io.* for that?


Man, the only thing I remember from java prog class is the words "public void main". For some reason my brain refuses to give up that completely pointless piece of information (removed out of context as it is)...