How did the Rev Wright not cost Obama the election?

Anarchist420

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I've kind of been wondering why. It's pretty obvious that Obama was attending racist sermons.

Why did the electorate believe that Obama had no racist connections? Or if they realized it, then why did they ignore the fact that he had racist connections?

Obama distanced himself from Louis Farrahkan, but not the Rev. Wright, when the latter is much more blatant about his hatred for whites than the former is.

Despite the fact that he's probably not the first black President, he sure isn't neutral on race issues, and I'm surprised most white people are willing to have a President who so strongly supports reverse discrimination.
 

Matt1970

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For once this isn't that bad a past. IMHO Obama could have been lighting kittens on fire and stealing little kid’s school lunch's prior to the election and still won.
 

JTsyo

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Because there was no indication that Obama himself held such views.
 

ShawnD1

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It's even more surprising that Obama isn't a KKK member. His father was an African man who hit it and quit it. His mom was a teen white woman who relied on the help of her parents to raise Obama :awe:


not making fun. it's actually a nice story of triumph over hard times, but it's one of those things that could lead people to hating an entire race of people because a deadbeat dad just happened to be that race
 
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Because there was no indication that Obama himself held such views.

Pretty much this. How is he responsible for the views of someone else just because he has some kind of tie to them.

Shall we discuss the Bush family ties to Bin Laden and his successful reelection? It's not relevant.
 

ichy

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Because there was no indication that Obama himself held such views.

Agreed. Obama attended Wright's church out of political expediency. That's a pretty disgusting thing to do, but it's no like McCain didn't pander to equally loathsome religious crackpots.
 

jonks

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Because everyone knows Obama is a Muslim and was only pretending to go to that church where his attendance was spotty at best anyway, hence his racist Christian pastor's views are irrelevent.

Disagree completely with those who say his relationsihp to this person is of no relevance though. He exposed his children repeatedly to this man's sermons, called him a mentor, chose him to perform various family ceremonies. No, you cannot attribute someone else's views to those who merely associate with such a person. But you can and should question why a person would choose to associate so closely with someone who holds deeply repugnant views. Write it off as a matter of political expediency, that's fine, but that's also relevant. It's a character issue, and those are certainly fair game in politics.
 

bamacre

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I never saw anything from Wright that was racist, unless it was taken out of context.
 

spidey07

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White guilt

That's it exactly. Plus the media pretty much brushed it under the rug. Obama is a racist, pure and simple. naw, naw, naw, reject the white middle class America!

Isn't it apparent that's exactly what he's doing?
 

Lemon law

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Its pretty easy to answer the thread question of why the REV Wright did not cost Obama the election. And that answer is that almost everyone except our OP don't go bonkers over guilt by association.
 

CallMeJoe

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...Obama is a racist, pure and simple. naw, naw, naw, reject the white middle class America!
Isn't it apparent that's exactly what he's doing?

You tell 'em, Glenn!

BTW, sorry to hear you're losing your show...
 

HomerJS

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I've kind of been wondering why. It's pretty obvious that Obama was attending racist sermons.

Why did the electorate believe that Obama had no racist connections? Or if they realized it, then why did they ignore the fact that he had racist connections?

Obama distanced himself from Louis Farrahkan, but not the Rev. Wright, when the latter is much more blatant about his hatred for whites than the former is.

Despite the fact that he's probably not the first black President, he sure isn't neutral on race issues, and I'm surprised most white people are willing to have a President who so strongly supports reverse discrimination.

Old, old news. But since you brought it up...

Where exactly was the racism other then your speculation??

If you are referring to the "God damn America" speech Michelle Bachman made essentially the same speech and nobody complained, and she's a member of congress not just some preacher.

Obama won, get over it.
 

ichy

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Real reason:

The economy tanked a month before the election and people rightly or wrongly blamed the party that held the White House at the time. Simple as that.
 

thraashman

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I never saw anything from Wright that was racist, unless it was taken out of context.

I'm pretty sure that to the Right in this country anything that is pro black is automatically anti white. Reverend Wright does indeed have some very radical views, but they seem to be extensions of the horrible things he dealt with throughout his lifetime. This country has historically treated black people pretty shitty. And while times have changed, the historic scars have caused cultural problems and poverty problems. And in someone like Rev Wright, this has also caused a lot of anger. And he has every right to be angry, hell look at how angry conservatives get over a small tax increase, imagine if the government started sponsoring infecting Republicans with syphillis!

But in addition to his anger that Rev Wright preached he also preached a lot of black people supporting the black community. Now, when white people preach supporting white people and white power, it usually ends up being racist and creating the KKK. Conservatives fail to realize that black people supporting a historically kept down community that has still not recovered from all the shit this country has done to it, is not racist. Conservatives want to look at one aspect and judge from that. Unfortunately, you as a result get people like Spidey, one of the most ignorant and racist people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing exists.
 

IGBT

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Because there was no indication that Obama himself held such views.


he sat there for 20 years listing to hate america racist rhetoric. It's the obama's adopted agenda. If he was going to klan meetings for 20 years there would be no doubt about his views.
 

fskimospy

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Because that is a bullshit issue that doesn't affect anyone. Gas prices stay where they and he has no chance of re-election

Haven't you had enough with the presidential election predictions? You were the guy who predicted a McCain victory so certain that he didn't even need to campaign, and put out your electoral map that had McCain winning Hawaii, a state that Obama won by forty five points in an election Obama would go on to win by nearly 200 electoral votes.

I think it's pretty clear that you have no idea what goes into winning a presidential election.
 

JD50

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I do find it odd that Obama got a pass from the left on this issue. He attended a radical church for years. The lefties here make fun of religion every chance they get.
 

Throckmorton

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Maybe everybody knows deep down that Obama is not religious. He grew up atheist and started going to church for the sake of politics.

BTW, you know he has to fake the African-American accent right? He grew up with a white mother in Hawaii, not Chicago. He had to tune it just right so that he wouldn't sound white, but wouldn't sound too black to whites.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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he sat there for 20 years listing to hate america racist rhetoric. It's the obama's adopted agenda. If he was going to klan meetings for 20 years there would be no doubt about his views.


Don't know what he actually heard, but what you say is true.

Oh, Obama will win the next election by a fair margin not because he's loved, but because the Republicans are incredibly inept.
 

fskimospy

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I do find it odd that Obama got a pass from the left on this issue. He attended a radical church for years. The lefties here make fun of religion every chance they get.

At least among those people I know, nobody on the left cares about religion in and of itself, they only care when it's being pushed on them or insane public policy being crafted on its behalf.

If you can point to some policy that he's implemented that seems to stem from that 'radical church', I'll be the first person to condemn it. If not, who cares? I similarly don't care that Mitt Romney is a Mormon, despite Mormonism being one of the most demonstrably crazy religions out there.