How crazy I am to think this of the universe?

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Now, since the Universe is all inclusive... there's no additional energy to add... so eventually, the expansion should stop, and the contraction should begin. That is of course assuming there is no "friction" in the form of another dimension or something like that...

That may be what "dark energy" is - perhaps it's simply some inherent property of space, similar to a gas, that it doesn't like being near itself, so it continuously expands. In this case, it's kind of acting against what friction would normally do, instead serving to speed up expansion.
I've heard the expansion likened to what happens when a chocolate chip cookie is baked. The dough is space, and the chips are pieces of matter. Through no energy input of their own, the chips still move apart as the "space" around them seemingly expands.

*EDIT* On a similar subject... if the Universe is everything/everywhere, how is it expanding? What is there for it to expand into? Lets assume there is an edge, but it's expanding at the speed of light... if I could find a way to exceed the speed of light, could I see outside the Universe, or by doing so, have I just expanded the Universe?

Well, whatever there is outside of this spacetime bubble, that's what it's expanding into. 🙂

 

[idiotekniQues]

i thought by the time i reread this thread it would have disappeared back into the OP's brain

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
i thought by the time i reread this thread it would have disappeared back into the OP's brain

Yeah, it's kinda like a black hole except nothing ever goes into it. No gravitational pull whatsoever.

 

[KingGheedora]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Alright, so supposedly the universe came from a singularity of immense density, exploded. Fast forward 13 or so billion light years, we have what we have today, with stuffs and galaxies.

Now, each galaxy is supposedly revolving around a giant black hole. Would it be logical to say that eventually everything will come back to be a singularity of immense density?

Discuss.

What you just described is actually predicted to happen in 2098.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Alright, so supposedly the universe came from a singularity of immense density, exploded. Fast forward 13 or so billion light years, we have what we have today, with stuffs and galaxies.

Now, each galaxy is supposedly revolving around a giant black hole. Would it be logical to say that eventually everything will come back to be a singularity of immense density?

Discuss.

One HUGE slot to fill.

LOL. I'm gasping for air here.

Cheers sonambulo :beer:

 

[RESmonkey]

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Alright, so supposedly the universe came from a singularity of immense density, exploded. Fast forward 13 or so billion light years, we have what we have today, with stuffs and galaxies.

Now, each galaxy is supposedly revolving around a giant black hole. Would it be logical to say that eventually everything will come back to be a singularity of immense density?

Discuss.

One HUGE slot to fill.

LOL. I'm gasping for air here.

Cheers sonambulo :beer:

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[CrimsonChaos]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Alright, so supposedly the universe came from a singularity of immense density, exploded. Fast forward 13 or so billion light years, we have what we have today, with stuffs and galaxies.

Now, each galaxy is supposedly revolving around a giant black hole. Would it be logical to say that eventually everything will come back to be a singularity of immense density?

Discuss.

Yeah, that's a pretty common theory these days. They also theorize this could be the millionth incarnation of the Universe, as it is able to indefinitely self-perpetuate itself.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Alright, so supposedly the universe came from a singularity of immense density, exploded. Fast forward 13 or so billion light years, we have what we have today, with stuffs and galaxies.

Now, each galaxy is supposedly revolving around a giant black hole. Would it be logical to say that eventually everything will come back to be a singularity of immense density?

Discuss.

Yes, the theory is called "The Big Crunch". The other theory is called "The Big Chill", where everything keeps expanding until everything is so spread apart that matter can't interact with other matter to produce heat. It all depends on how much mass is in the universe, which is why you've been hearing so much about dark matter and dark energy lately.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey

Originally posted by: Spartan Niner

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SSSnail
Alright, so supposedly the universe came from a singularity of immense density, exploded. Fast forward 13 or so billion light years, we have what we have today, with stuffs and galaxies.

Now, each galaxy is supposedly revolving around a giant black hole. Would it be logical to say that eventually everything will come back to be a singularity of immense density?

Discuss.

One HUGE slot to fill.

LOL. I'm gasping for air here.

Cheers sonambulo :beer:

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It's an inside joke in Ikariam.

Whenever an alliance member has open museum slots he sends messages which sometimes read "one slot open" or "two slots open" leading to inevitable unflattering comparisons to certain aspects of human anatomy 😉

 

[sandorski]

Nope, the Universe is contained in a sphere. Soon we'll splat against the Sphere's inner wall.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

no crazier than Big Man In Sky Theory

 

[JTsyo]

Originally posted by: Capitalizt
Your mind will really be blown when you realize that what you describe as the beginning of our "universe" is the exact same condition that exists in the center of every black hole in the galaxy..infinite energy and mass in a point that is infinitely small....

Our universe could essentially be a single white hole...which is what "explodes" out the spacetime rip at the center of a black hole...the other side of the singularity = another universe.

Every black hole in our galaxy is actually the mother of it's own universe, which is formed by a white hole on the other side of it's singularity.

We really live in a multiverse... Our own universe is simply it's own small bubble that has branched off from another bubble...which has branched off from another bubble...a huge network of universes that are constantly being formed. So even if we end up drifting through black nothingness, it's really not much of a loss in the grand scheme of things 😉

multiverse pic

Black holes don't have infinite mass, otherwise it wouldn't matter how far you were from them, they would pull you in.

I've also heard it said that the older galaxies that we can see are much further than they should be. This is explained by space itself expanding. So not only are things flying out from the center but they are also growing further apart as the space between them grows. Think that's a tricky concept to grasp since people tend to think of the Big Bang as just matter exploding, but there's also the aspect of space. Not sure if that means there's some sort of boundary to the space too.

 

[Phaeded]

my vote is for Heat Death. the end of everything. entropy over all until even non matter like electrons and protons go pud.

check out Stehpen Baxter's manifold books for some good scifi on the topic. or get all nerdy with real science...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Last I heard the universe was expanding at an ever increasing rate which leads lil Ole me to believe we ain't coming back together.

What happens when some new "accepted theory" comes out that states the Universe is speeding up because not enough time has passed for gravity to slow us down and reverse the expansion? Basically a theory stating we are like a yo-yo that the string expands until it reaches the end (due to gravity slowing everything down), then we start coming back up the string until we get to the starting point (in this case a singularity). Does that mean you will change your thinking and believe we are coming back together?

I really hope you do critically think about these things, and don't just accept things as fact because it's what is currently believed. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you have your convictions and have rationally thought about this before you came to this conclusion.

Because Al Gore says global warming is real, does that mean you think that is real as well?