How could there NOT be a GOD??

SickBeast

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I was having this discussion with someone...and he insisted on arguing that there may not be a God/creator/superior being. I am interested in knowing if anyone can construct a decent argument on how this could be the case.

Basically, what I want to know is, even if you're an evolutionist, explain to me how that very first cell of life from 1,000,000,000,000 years ago came to exist.
 

Goosemaster

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Concerning the presence of a higher being:

The unexplainable, the ambiguous, and the seemlingly random do not prove or refute anything.


Every argument is technically INACCURATE, as the determinant of accuracy is unknown.


Say

"i like my guess better"
 

TuxDave

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Even if we did bring up evidence, would that convince you of anything? If there was an experiment that showed the formation of amino acids in the primordial soup in the past, is that enough to drop this entire argument?

Edit: In case anyone wonders, amino acids by themselves are not life forms, but can be part of them.
 

DaveSimmons

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God may exist. Explaining biochemistry (or the big bang) neither proves nor disproves God's existence.

Q: But who created the universe!? God must've!
A: Then who created God? By that logic someone else must have.
 

Xionide

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There is no answere. Existence makes no sense. There are two very good sides but they still dont make complete sense. Look at it this way. Everything has to be created so there has to be a god. Then look at it as what created god? SEE?!?! it will never make sense so quit wasting you life trying to figure it out and just fvcking live life.
 

Xionide

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
God may exist. Explaining biochemistry (or the big bang) neither proves nor disproves God's existence.

Q: But who created the universe!? God must've!
A: Then who created God? By that logic someone else must have.

damn your fast. 2shay.

BTW give my regards to richard
 

Tret

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Theres really no proof if god exists. It's just faith do I believe in god? I'm Agonistic so I don't know.
 

Amused

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If you need a "god" to explain where everything came from, I need an answer to "where did god come from?"

And from there, we'll just start stacking turtles.
 

TechnoKid

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It can be shown to an extent either way with equal uncertainty that he either does or does not exist. So the question is, why isn't either side overly convincing of the other? It depends what side you want to take.
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: TechnoKid
It can be shown to an extent either way with equal uncertainty that he either does or does not exist. So the question is, why isn't either side overly convincing of the other? It depends what side you want to take.
Or you could join us fence-sitting agnostics who just accept that uncertainty :)

If faith moves you to deism or atheism you should accept that faith, just don't claim that you can "prove" your position.
 

Savij

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: Savij
How can there not be a tiny bunny rabbit in everyone's anus?

mine's a big bunny rabbit. does that make me god? ;)

I have to inspect it and check for the mark of the beast
 

WinkOsmosis

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Just because you don't understand how life first formed, doesn't mean there has to be a god. And who made the god? How could there not be a proto-god to create the god? Btw, the earth is 4.22 billion years old
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
Just because you don't understand how life first formed, doesn't mean there has to be a god. And who made the god? How could there not be a proto-god to create the god? Btw, the earth is 4.22 billion years old

I say it's 4.23 billion years old... and not a day younger... dammit
 

element

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Originally posted by: Xionide
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
God may exist. Explaining biochemistry (or the big bang) neither proves nor disproves God's existence.

Q: But who created the universe!? God must've!
A: Then who created God? By that logic someone else must have.

damn your fast. 2shay.

BTW give my regards to richard

Richard Simmon's existance proves there is no god.





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just kiddin! I keed, I keed....hehe
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Basically, what I want to know is, even if you're an evolutionist, explain to me how that very first cell of life from 1,000,000,000,000 years ago came to exist.

Misconception: ?Evolution is a theory about the origin of life.?

Response: Evolutionary theory deals mainly with how life changed after its origin. Science does try to investigate how life started (e.g., whether or not it happened near a deep-sea vent, which organic molecules came first, etc.), but these considerations are not the central focus of evolutionary theory. Regardless of how life started, afterwards it branched and diversified. Whether or not we understand how life began, we do understand a lot about what happened during the history of life?though there is still much to learn.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/misconceps/IAorigintheory.shtml


The answer you are looking for is: It is not currently known.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Basically, what I want to know is, even if you're an evolutionist, explain to me how that very first cell of life from 1,000,000,000,000 years ago came to exist.

Captain Picard aimed 3 tachyon beams at the same point in space, then turned them off.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: SickBeast


Basically, what I want to know is, even if you're an evolutionist, explain to me how that very first cell of life from 1,000,000,000,000 years ago came to exist.

Also,


Why must I prove my point without a reasonable doubt if you can't do the same?