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Lifer
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Who were you before you were banned? Somebody who just joined today and knows who Moonbeam is... yeah right.

Well it could be a long time lurker that just registered to post for the first time today.

But judging from the massive verbal diarrhea emanating from the OP I'd say he'd have had a hard time lurking and not saying anything long enough to know Moonbeam so well.

He seems like someone who can't keep their mouth shut for a millisecond and not a lurker.
 

1prophet

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HAHAHAHAHA

I didn't know taxes were socialism. We must really be the United Socialist America if it's written in the constitution, "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect Taxes"

And here's a little fact for you.. you know who the best President in the 1950s-2000s was? Eisenhower! Why? He taxed the rich (those making in excess of $200,000.00) 90% progressively above that amount and used it to build infrastructure that almost every American still uses today. Want to know what it was called?

The Interstate Highway System

How is that for socialism? Except he was a Republican! Look it up! :p


Why is that 90% tax rate lie continually being pushed by so called liberals who then falsely claim "facts have a liberal bias".

That 90% mythological tax rate was used to help the rich at the time by pretending to tax them high for public consumption as a political talking point by politicians to the masses, while giving them loopholes to lower their taxes and you dopey pretend liberals fell and continually fall for it.
http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=law_pubs
m . S o a k in g t h e W a t e r pr o o f e d R ic h ?

I consider the so-called principle (if it may be dignified by such a title)
of “taxation in accordance with ability to pay” ... utterly unsound....
The sound and justifiable method of taxing income is at a flat or
proportional rate.

But perhaps the high marginal tax rates were just “so much
window dressing,” “A colossal illusion” in the age of loopholes,
or “a kind of spiritual consolation prize to the 20-percent-fellows.”

After all, as early as the 1930s, the iconoclastic Henry Simons had
sensed “a grand scheme of deception, whereby enormous surtaxes
are voted in exchange for promises that they will not be made
effective---- [Politicians may point with pride to the rates, while
quietly reminding their wealthy constituents of the loopholes.”He
therefore urged “Congress to quit this ludicrous business of dipping
deeply into great incomes with a sieve.”

Later, cynics even charged that the “only possible purpose” of the gap between paper and real tax rates “is to trick the American public” into believing that the progressivity that it preferred had actually been achieved.

During the Eisenhower years, such complaints were common.
As a longtime economic critic of the tax system, Professor Harold
Groves, informed Congress:

‘“the impression is widely shared that the Congress deliberately throws a high-rate scale to the public as a demagogic bone and then as deliberately allows escapes from taxes that make these rates specious.”’

Stanley Surrey, the leading academic tax lawyer of the post-World War II period and the architect of rate reductions as the chief tax policy analyst in the Kennedy administration, told the readers of Colliers that the federal income tax was a clear illustration of “schizophrenia” because Congress created high rates with one hand and escapes from them with the other.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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We could elect an actually good candidate instead.


You think it's Anarchist420 returned? I can see that, he's been gone some time, I assumed he wandered off to less mentally stable corners of the internet.

I thought it was obvious from the get go. Who else babbles about "Hamiltonian Nationalists" and is obsessed with applying ideological labels to everything?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Why is that 90% tax rate lie continually being pushed by so called liberals who then falsely claim "facts have a liberal bias".

That 90% mythological tax rate was used to help the rich at the time by pretending to tax them high for public consumption as a political talking point by politicians to the masses, while giving them loopholes to lower their taxes and you dopey pretend liberals fell and continually fall for it.
http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1006&context=law_pubs

Umm...the effective tax rate was still higher than it was today, which was about 70%, if you factor in capital gains it drops to about 49%. Contrast that to the effective rate of today for the top 1% at about 28%.

So no matter how you look at it, we can do a higher rate and America and the rich will be just fine.
 

dank69

Lifer
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I thought it was obvious from the get go. Who else babbles about "Hamiltonian Nationalists" and is obsessed with applying ideological labels to everything?
I thought the same, but then I remembered that he was never (or at least very rarely) combative.
 

thraashman

Lifer
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I thought it was obvious from the get go. Who else babbles about "Hamiltonian Nationalists" and is obsessed with applying ideological labels to everything?

It's been a while and I usually ignored posts by him in his original stint.
 

Thump553

Lifer
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In a way I hope it is A420. I still occasionally worry about him and hope that the reason he no longer posts here is because of a ban and not something going tragically wrong in his real life.

As for Fiorina I'll refer OP to a relative of mine. Lifelong HP employee, tea party/right wing who was "early retired" by HP when he was in his fifties during the Fiorina era in order to cut expenses to make up for the costs of her blunders.

The only major corporation CEO I can think of with a worst track record is the guy who drove Home Depot into the ground.
 

Indus

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Umm...the effective tax rate was still higher than it was today, which was about 70%, if you factor in capital gains it drops to about 49%. Contrast that to the effective rate of today for the top 1% at about 28%.

So no matter how you look at it, we can do a higher rate and America and the rich will be just fine.

This! +1
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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I thought the same, but then I remembered that he was never (or at least very rarely) combative.

True, he wasn't often combative, but there are numerous indications of his identity. For example, A420 is a big fan of Ron Paul but has made numerous very critical remarks about Rand Paul. Notice the OP's negative comments about Rand, which are kind of unexpected from someone with his stated ideology. A420 also likes Newt Gingrich, another quirky position for a libertarian. And how many posters around here have ever mentioned Hannah Arendt? A420 has before.

I put the probability of it being him at roughly 90%.
 
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Moonbeam

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Well it could be a long time lurker that just registered to post for the first time today.

But judging from the massive verbal diarrhea emanating from the OP I'd say he'd have had a hard time lurking and not saying anything long enough to know Moonbeam so well.

He seems like someone who can't keep their mouth shut for a millisecond and not a lurker.

It was the second poster who mentioned me, not the OP. He is the one who recognizes that the truth of my vision threatens what he calls sanity and it scares him. He refuses to cognizance the fact that you have to see your illness before you can get better and he has fallen in love with a crazy mental state,
 
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As for Fiorina I'll refer OP to a relative of mine. Lifelong HP employee, tea party/right wing who was "early retired" by HP when he was in his fifties during the Fiorina era in order to cut expenses to make up for the costs of her blunders.
Her blunders? Ever hear of the tech bubble where only 48% of the dot-com companies survived?
 
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Why don't you take the day to jack off someone you love?

nay i doubt you love anyone but yourself you little shit ting yoo trotskyite/hitlerian.

You know what a universal and inflexible truth is young man?
Well, the following is certainly accurate and truthful: all those (including your own dumb self) wanting socialism and high tax rule are selfish assholes who wind up not really loving no one and nothing except for their goal of control over individuals Y'all dim-minded moronic socialists (and really those who actually want taxes) are against society to say it all most accurately.

I am so sorry for being such a dickhead to you about all of it. It won't happen again I'm sure. I love you indus even though you'd never let anyone but your self go free

Well, Obama could be (and probably is) making future fortunes for all middle class folk if presently at the expense of many people all over our world, y'know as things are today. First this country had Lincoln-- a man hated by many and not really loved by any until after the second he was declared dead; today we dont have nationalism we have globalism. I am sure he'd love to reduce isolationist arms at the borders

Your account is suspended until you identify yourself.

Perknose
Forum Director

Good call however how does one identify themselves here?