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Originally posted by: Deeko
Yea, the Sowers, thats a GREAT college mascot. Wow.

Indians are annoying. So the college mascot is named after them, big deal. Consider it a tribute to the Fighting Sioux warriors in the past.

btw...if they really thought every freshman would take 'required sensitivity courses' and take trips to all the reservations.....

What about us european-americans... it's not enough that we were born into a developed country with lots of cash...
 
Originally posted by: habib89
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Your mom was a Native American that aws 100% German? I am not sure anyone understands your rant. Every city I've been to in So Cal has hispanics as a minority (maybe a large population, but generally a minority) but every street is in spanish. Obviously, because of the spanish missionary influence. What's the big deal?

I am a Native American I was born in the US and have lived here all my life. Am I not a Native American? This isn't a rant. I was just wondering why a school in the current climate wouldn't just avoid this kind of controversy and choose some other nickname.

hoooooooooooooooooooly crap... you realize that if this statement were true, "native american" would be the largest "ethnicity" in the entire united states? wow.. i was actually thinking you might have a point, and was wililng to read on, but now, i don't think i will... i, as a native american that is 100% chinese, am offended by your statements

Why are you offended by being called a native american if you were born here? If you were born here your not chinese.
 
http://www.fightingsioux.com/sports/news/release.asp?RELEASE_ID=3960
Not long ago I took a trip to make a proposal to establish an epidemiological program to support American Indian health throughout the Upper Great Plains. On this trip I left a state called North Dakota. (Dakota is one of the names the indigenous people of this region actually call themselves.) I flew over South Dakota, crossing the Sioux River several times, and finally landed in Sioux City, Iowa, just south of Sioux Falls, South Dakota. The airplane in which I traveled that day was called a Cheyenne.

I think you should find my confusion here understandable, since obviously if we were to call our teams ?The Dakotans,? we would actually be in more direct violation of what apparently you are trying to establish as a rule, even though this is the name of our state. This situation, of course, is not unlike that faced by our sister institution in Illinois.
 
I really don't think this guy is even reading.

No one is asking where you're from. We know you're from America.

However, your ETHNIC BACKGROUND is not American.
1) Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.
2) Being a member of a particular ethnic group, especially belonging to a national group by heritage or culture but residing outside its national boundaries: ethnic Hungarians living in northern Serbia.

Particularly read the 2nd one. Your ethnic background is German.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: habib89
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: sygyzy
Your mom was a Native American that aws 100% German? I am not sure anyone understands your rant. Every city I've been to in So Cal has hispanics as a minority (maybe a large population, but generally a minority) but every street is in spanish. Obviously, because of the spanish missionary influence. What's the big deal?

I am a Native American I was born in the US and have lived here all my life. Am I not a Native American? This isn't a rant. I was just wondering why a school in the current climate wouldn't just avoid this kind of controversy and choose some other nickname.

hoooooooooooooooooooly crap... you realize that if this statement were true, "native american" would be the largest "ethnicity" in the entire united states? wow.. i was actually thinking you might have a point, and was wililng to read on, but now, i don't think i will... i, as a native american that is 100% chinese, am offended by your statements

Why are you offended by being called a native american if you were born here? If you were born here your not chinese.

Wait, I'm not chinese anymore? OH NOES!
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
I really don't think this guy is even reading.

No one is asking where you're from. We know you're from America.

However, your ETHNIC BACKGROUND is not American.
1) Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.
2) Being a member of a particular ethnic group, especially belonging to a national group by heritage or culture but residing outside its national boundaries: ethnic Hungarians living in northern Serbia.

Particularly read the 2nd one. Your ethnic background is German.

In thatcase there are no native americans there are the Sioux, cherokee navajo,pueblo, shoshone, germans, italians,english
Unless your suggesting that the dominant fatures of America culture are
Indian in nature.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
I really don't think this guy is even reading.

No one is asking where you're from. We know you're from America.

However, your ETHNIC BACKGROUND is not American.
1) Of or relating to a sizable group of people sharing a common and distinctive racial, national, religious, linguistic, or cultural heritage.
2) Being a member of a particular ethnic group, especially belonging to a national group by heritage or culture but residing outside its national boundaries: ethnic Hungarians living in northern Serbia.

Particularly read the 2nd one. Your ethnic background is German.


All the Indian tribes that were here prior to the Europeans arriving are all lumped together and called"Native Americans" and yet te only thing they had in common was they inhabited the same continent. Their cultures at the time were as diverse as the European continent.

About the only concrete difference between me and a "Native American" is there ancestors were here before mine, because none of their cultures represents the definitive "Native American"
 
gotta love the PC times, there has been a controversy in regards to the mascot at my school- the Bradley Braves I'd much rather have the Bradley squirrels cuz there are just that many on campus. They're super friendly too, cuz people feed them.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Stop calling them Indians, please.

Well before they were called Native Americans that is what they were called. I meant no disrespect. Do you have to be such a dick.I think you can tell that I was merely using the word to not sound redundant,by having to use "Na Am" excessively.

 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Howard
Stop calling them Indians, please.

Well before they were called Native Americans that is what they were called. I meant no disrespect. Do you have to be such a dick.I think you can tell that I was merely using the word to not sound redundant,by having to use "Na Am" excessively.
Not only did you just insult me, you insisted on perpetuating a fallacy. They were only called Indians because the land was thought to be India.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Howard
Stop calling them Indians, please.

Well before they were called Native Americans that is what they were called. I meant no disrespect. Do you have to be such a dick.I think you can tell that I was merely using the word to not sound redundant,by having to use "Na Am" excessively.
Not only did you just insult me, you insisted on perpetuating a fallacy. They were only called Indians because the land was thought to be India.

I'm not perpetuating anything, I used the word to help with my
sentence if you can't accept that I'm sorry. It doesn't matter why they were called"Indians", the fact is they were.

 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Howard
Stop calling them Indians, please.

Well before they were called Native Americans that is what they were called. I meant no disrespect. Do you have to be such a dick.I think you can tell that I was merely using the word to not sound redundant,by having to use "Na Am" excessively.
Not only did you just insult me, you insisted on perpetuating a fallacy. They were only called Indians because the land was thought to be India.

I'm not perpetuating anything, I used the word to help with my
sentence if you can't accept that I'm sorry.
Did you even read what I said?
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Howard
Stop calling them Indians, please.

Well before they were called Native Americans that is what they were called. I meant no disrespect. Do you have to be such a dick.I think you can tell that I was merely using the word to not sound redundant,by having to use "Na Am" excessively.
Not only did you just insult me, you insisted on perpetuating a fallacy. They were only called Indians because the land was thought to be India.

I'm not perpetuating anything, I used the word to help with my
sentence if you can't accept that I'm sorry.
Did you even read what I said?

I edited my post. Go read it again.

 
Look, they're called Native Americans because they were living in America long before Europeans started settling there. What is the huge problem you have with this?
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Look, they're called Native Americans because they were living in America long before Europeans started settling there. What is the huge problem you have with this?

Lady I don't have a problem with what their called. It seems some of them have a problem with what a school in North Dakota prefers to call its mascot. You follow
 
ok i got about half way thru but id just like to point this out...

we native americans(im half) like to be called 'american indians'

why you ask? because of dumbasses like you who say "but im native american i was born here"

infact, we dont ask other people if they are 'native america' we ask what tribe they are from

2nd i didnt know the notre damn mascot was DRUNK. if he was a drunkin fighting irish im not sure why anybodys brought that up. im pretty sure hes just a FIGHTING irish. like the fighting soux. im one eigth irish(my moms mom was half irish half scotish), and i have the 'drunkin fighting irish' bad taste

3rd we 'american indians' have problems with names like Red Skins and Braves etc etc. you dont have school mascots called Darkies and Cotton Pickers do you?

4th this whole lineage shit is bullshit because when the schools were called(and changed names to) red skins and what not indians WERENT EVEN ALOUND TO ATTEND THE SCHOOL. so they didnt have a say, if they did, they would probably want to be called the eagles or the bears, not the chiefs.
 
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