How come?

[ManyBeers]

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Why would a largely white run institution in a largely white state want to use an indian name for their nickname? I mean ND is a largely agricultural state and could surely come up with something else and less controversial, like the Sowers or The Reapers, Midwesteners...anything. Why put themselves in this position in the first place?

 

[Ipno]

Have you ever been to North Dakota?

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Ipno
Have you ever been to North Dakota?

Yes, my mother was born there..why do you ask.

 

[Ipno]

Just saying because pretty much everything in North Dakota is named after something Native American, and they have a very large (compared to the rest of the country anyway) percentage of Native American population. Dakota itself is a Sioux word.

 

[Medicine Bear]

Lakota, Nakota, and Dakota were various sub tribes of the overall Sioux tribe.

 

[bradruth]

That's my school. The University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux is a good, unique nickname. The names you suggested are pretty lame.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Ipno
Just saying because pretty much everything in North Dakota is named after something Native American, and they have a very large (compared to the rest of the country anyway) percentage of Native American population. Dakota itself is a Sioux word.

I wouldn't call it a very large percentage. And they're generally clumped in reservations and the surrounding areas.

 

[Deeko]

Yea, the Sowers, thats a GREAT college mascot. Wow.

Indians are annoying. So the college mascot is named after them, big deal. Consider it a tribute to the Fighting Sioux warriors in the past.

btw...if they really thought every freshman would take 'required sensitivity courses' and take trips to all the reservations.....

 

[Ipno]

Yeah, and you don't see us Irish guys getting pissed off at Notre Dame do you?

 

[Nitemare]

As a Cherokee it offends me that asshats get offended so friggin easily

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yea, the Sowers, thats a GREAT college mascot. Wow.

Indians are annoying. So the college mascot is named after them, big deal. Consider it a tribute to the Fighting Sioux warriors in the past.

btw...if they really thought every freshman would take 'required sensitivity courses' and take trips to all the reservations.....

My impression is that the various tribes have absolutely no pride in their ancestry, who were the SIOUX, a FIGHTING TRIBE.

I never took any sensitivity sh!t, and those assholes can't make me.*














*I mean, like I really need it.

 

[Medicine Bear]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
As a Cherokee it offends me that asshats get offended so friggin easily

As a Paiute I feel the same way.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Ipno
Just saying because pretty much everything in North Dakota is named after something Native American, and they have a very large (compared to the rest of the country anyway) percentage of Native American population. Dakota itself is a Sioux word.

My mother was a Native American born and bred in North Dakota and she was 100% German. I think times have changed and since they are offended by these nicknames why not just move on to something less controversial. Retaining place names is one thing, Having a major institutions nickname for its students is a whole other matter.
In fact another institution in ND just dropped Skoal as a sponsor because of its image. In fact if I were a student at that school I would resent the Fighting Sioux name myself.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: bradruth
That's my school. The University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux is a good, unique nickname. The names you suggested are pretty lame.

They merely represented alternatives man, i new they were lame when I posted them. That isn't the point. Are you a member of the Sioux nation? Why should a student who has no Sioux blood in them be called a Fighting Sioux? I would resent that. And Indian nicknames are anything but unique.

 

[sygyzy]

Your mom was a Native American that aws 100% German? I am not sure anyone understands your rant. Every city I've been to in So Cal has hispanics as a minority (maybe a large population, but generally a minority) but every street is in spanish. Obviously, because of the spanish missionary influence. What's the big deal?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Medicine Bear

Originally posted by: Nitemare
As a Cherokee it offends me that asshats get offended so friggin easily

As a Paiute I feel the same way.

Damn, I'm only mostly German.........but I feel the same way.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yea, the Sowers, thats a GREAT college mascot. Wow.

Indians are annoying. So the college mascot is named after them, big deal. Consider it a tribute to the Fighting Sioux warriors in the past.

btw...if they really thought every freshman would take 'required sensitivity courses' and take trips to all the reservations.....

I'm not a member of the Sioux nation and if I went to that school I would not want to be called a Fighting Sioux. There are thousands of alternatives.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
My mother was a Native American born and bred in North Dakota and she was 100% German.

Huh? 😕

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

I think times have changed and since they are offended by these nicknames why not just move on to something less controversial. Retaining place names is one thing, Having a major institutions nickname for its students is a whole other matter.
In fact another institution in ND just dropped Skoal as a sponsor because of its image. In fact if I were a student at that school I would resent the Fighting Sioux name myself.

So just change years and years of tradition and legacy because a few people are exhibiting knee-jerk offense to a nickname? I find it especially funny that they complain about the logo...which was completely designed by a Native American. And why exactly would YOU resent this nickname?

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: bradruth
That's my school. The University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux is a good, unique nickname. The names you suggested are pretty lame.

They merely represented alternatives man, i new they were lame when I posted them. That isn't the point. Are you a member of the Sioux nation? Why should a student who has no Sioux blood in them be called a Fighting Sioux? I would resent that. And Indian nicknames are anything but unique.

My school's nickname is the Dragons. Am I a descendant of any dragons?

Your arguments are weak. The fact is, certain Indian groups are the only people that seem to whine about college mascots. Like someone else posted, you don't see the Irish whining about Notre Dame.

 

[emmpee]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
My mother was a Native American born and bred in North Dakota and she was 100% German.

Huh?

 

[emmpee]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Are you a member of the Sioux nation? Why should a student who has no Sioux blood in them be called a Fighting Sioux? I would resent that.

My school's mascot is the Tiger. I'm not a tiger, but I don't have a problem with it.

You don't want to be called a Fighting Sioux? Then vote with your feet and your wallet and DON'T GO THERE.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: sygyzy
Your mom was a Native American that aws 100% German? I am not sure anyone understands your rant. Every city I've been to in So Cal has hispanics as a minority (maybe a large population, but generally a minority) but every street is in spanish. Obviously, because of the spanish missionary influence. What's the big deal?

I am a Native American I was born in the US and have lived here all my life. Am I not a Native American? This isn't a rant. I was just wondering why a school in the current climate wouldn't just avoid this kind of controversy and choose some other nickname.

 

[Deeko]

How long have they had that nickname? I'd guess a long time.

btw I bet I could drink many more beers than you.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
They merely represented alternatives man, i new they were lame when I posted them. That isn't the point. Are you a member of the Sioux nation? Why should a student who has no Sioux blood in them be called a Fighting Sioux? I would resent that. And Indian nicknames are anything but unique.

Why would a student who has no Knight or Trojan or Eagle or Rocket blood in them be called that? I resent that. I didn't say general Indian nicknames were unique...how many other teams are called the Sioux?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers
I'm not a member of the Sioux nation and if I went to that school I would not want to be called a Fighting Sioux. There are thousands of alternatives.

I don't know where you go/went to school, but did anyone call you by your team name? "Oh, there goes a Trojan!"