Mike Gayner
Diamond Member
Then the outlaws will be the ones with the guns. And you talk about a police state and being a good little citizen. How ironic. :thumbsdown:
I don't see the irony. Then again, I don't think you know what irony is.
Then the outlaws will be the ones with the guns. And you talk about a police state and being a good little citizen. How ironic. :thumbsdown:
I like the fact that cops here carry glocks. If a person wants to commit a bad enough crime, then they must know that cops mean business.
I don't see the irony. Then again, I don't think you know what irony is.
That's not correct 🙂Irony is you thinking Americans are under some police state when the only people allowed guns in your country are the cops.
Very similar to Aussie gun laws here.Is NZ gun free?
Three hispanic guys driving their Honda were stopped by an officer wildly screaming at them, and then one of them shot while trying to duck from the gun being pointed at him. (This was mentioned on a newscast on TV.)
Nothing will be done to the officer, who acted in compliance with duty.
http://www.newsday.com/news/cops-officer-shoots-man-during-huntington-traffic-stop-1.1694884
How come it's always a minority in these kinds of cases? For those of you that will inevitably cry about the occupants being unruly -- let's see how you react to some officer screaming and pointing a gun at you when you have done nothing.
Myself what? That cops aren't the only people in NZ with guns? You're welcome to peruse our firearms laws if you'd like, I can assure you that although I don't personally own a gun, I know several people that do and I've been shooting a number of times. I'm not really interested in your little pissing contest with my brother and I am extremely disinterested in this whole "NZ versus USA" thing that him and yourself have been engaged in in the past couple of weeks. I was simply correcting your factually incorrect statement.Keep telling yourself that.
Keep telling yourself that. You guys live in a bubble compared to a more populous and mixed nation.
Yes we do, and frankly, you can keep your melting pot of society.
Myself what? That cops aren't the only people in NZ with guns? You're welcome to peruse our firearms laws if you'd like, I can assure you that although I don't personally own a gun, I know several people that do and I've been shooting a number of times. I'm not really interested in your little pissing contest with my brother and I am extremely disinterested in this whole "NZ versus USA" thing that him and yourself have been engaged in in the past couple of weeks. I was simply correcting your factually incorrect statement.
I never accused you of starting it, I'm aware that he instigates most of the animosity between US users and the odd Kiwi here. I was just saying I genuinely don't want to get in the middle of it and don't care about that argument. Just wanted to clarify that people can and do in fact own guns here.Actually he is the one going off about Americans this and that long before many of us started to defend it, and that didnt work so we have to speak his language. Frankly I think NZ is beautiful, but the inhabitants are douchbags. <- See what I did thar? Its me generalizing to make a point.
Tibes cannot have a system like towns, nor can towns like cities nor cities like etc etc. What works for NZ cannot work for a country like America.
I never accused you of starting it, I'm aware that he instigates most of the animosity between US users and the odd Kiwi here. I was just saying I genuinely don't want to get in the middle of it and don't care about that argument. Just wanted to clarify that people can and do in fact own guns here.
Irony is you thinking Americans are under some police state when the only people allowed guns in your country are the cops. They must have some tasty koolaid in NZ! :awe:
Please tell me where I said police are the only ones who are allowed guns? Anybody can get a gun, but they're carefully controlled. Hence we don't have a proliferation of guns, and there is not a lot of illegal gun ownership here.
Right......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Handgun_Violence_Prevention_Act
"From 1994 through 2008, 1.8 million attempted firearm purchases were blocked by the Brady background check system. For checks done by the FBI in 2008, felons accounted for 56 percent of denials and fugitives from justice accounted for 13 percent of denials[18]. In April 2009, the FBI announced it had completed its 100 millionth NICS approval since its inception 10 years before"
Three hispanic guys driving their Honda were stopped by an officer wildly screaming at them, and then one of them shot while trying to duck from the gun being pointed at him. (This was mentioned on a newscast on TV.)
Nothing will be done to the officer, who acted in compliance with duty.
http://www.newsday.com/news/cops-officer-shoots-man-during-huntington-traffic-stop-1.1694884
How come it's always a minority in these kinds of cases? For those of you that will inevitably cry about the occupants being unruly -- let's see how you react to some officer screaming and pointing a gun at you when you have done nothing.
Not many gun rights activists want the removal of background checks.
Try again.
Do you have a reputable source with actual numbers? I'm pretty sure they're not smuggling legal automatic weapons and grenade launchers (from the US) into Mexico...but I'm pretty sure they have them down there.
Almost certainly. However, I'm talking about a scenario where the supply of firearms in the US dries up because of a strict tightening of laws per MikeGayner. In this case, guns would be flowing into the US.JohnOfSheffield said:Yet almost every single "illegal" gun in the US has at one point been legally purchased.
Come on, you're smarter than this. Do you know what the US/Mexico border looks like? They're sure as hell getting people and drugs in and money back out. Do you think it would be that hard to get guns in? Really? Across this?Smuggling into the US would be a hell of a lot harder than it would be smuggling something into most other first world nations considering how adamant you are about checking every cargo and you have the strictest border control apart from Israel that i have ever had the misfortune to have to go through.