How come there are no threads about Obama giving 20 or so of our war planes away

[Arglebargle]

Besides keeping American factory lines flowing now this move also reinforces US as Egypt's main supplier.
They do not want them to risk approaching Russia or France.

Give a plane and they build a whole doctrine around it.
In other words...give them a few planes and then they purchase billions in supporting equipment, upgrades over the years.
We're a good crack dealer like that.

Many will get all but hurt because "Oh noes...we are giving murican stuff to muslim and they gonna hitlerize the Israel" but the fact is Egypt won't do shit to Israel.
the economic impact would devastate Egypt. Egyptian trade with Israel and Egyptian trade with the US.
Even if they wanted they couldn't. Their military may be fine for taking on their own countrymen but they lack the training and Jedi mitochondrians to take on any modern force.

As for the F-16's, they are block 52 versions of C and D models. All fine capable aircraft in the hands of an airforce where solid training and lots of air time would make it an effective component of the armed forces.
In Egypt hands, they are effectively target drones. At most they could probably use them as attack aircraft.

I can understand the desire of right-tighty conservatives wanting to keep all Arab countries in the stone age because "Brown Muslim+brown president=conspiracy" and how all Jews would like to keep their neighbors sanctioned, embargoed squity eyed-pointy fingered at because "lulz".
However, this deal is fairly typical of how we keep the arms market in our pocket and how we strong arm folks in the UN (over things like trade deals and treaties).

Nice shootin', Tex!!

For the others: That's a thing about democratic style elections, you don't always get your preference. The US normally prefers the corrupt banker types, because they already know how everything works. And if it has to be dictators, you just have one guy to deal with.

The Israelis also told the Egyptians a long time ago: Push us to the wall and we take out the Aswan dam. You can kiss the Nile goodbye. I don't think they were bluffing either.

 

[zinfamous]

I don't have a link it is something that I saw on tv a USA warplane with an Egypt flag panited on it at a base in KY

hmm, then you probably should have thought this out and found such links before starting a thread in P&N.

Hell, even Incorruptible manages to find fake, biased, and absolutely hilarious blog posts to post as evidence.

 

[TerryMathews]

hmm, then you probably should have thought this out and found such links before starting a thread in P&N.

Hell, even Incorruptible manages to find fake, biased, and absolutely hilarious blog posts to post as evidence.

Don't be a dick. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/04/287167/us-delivers-f16-warplanes-to-egypt/

 

[werepossum]

I agree with you, but I don't think their government is that dumb. Unlike Iran, Egypt is actually in a strategic part of the world that actually matters to world commerce. Whether they like it or not, Egyptian internal and foreign policy will be influenced and/or dictated by those whose economies rely on the canal's importance. The Egyptian government also brings in a lot of revenue from the that patch of water, and any denial of access to our side of the pond is going to ignite a flurry of western military might in response.

Secondly, as they've probably learned from Iran, Sharia Law is very detrimental to your economy. It's their choice what they want to do with their lives, but hopefully they'll implement it with a bit more reason.

Well, hopefully... lol

Hopefully, although Sharia law is what it is.

I don't like the decision on a gut level, but I do understand it.

Nice shootin', Tex!!

For the others: That's a thing about democratic style elections, you don't always get your preference. The US normally prefers the corrupt banker types, because they already know how everything works. And if it has to be dictators, you just have one guy to deal with.

The Israelis also told the Egyptians a long time ago: Push us to the wall and we take out the Aswan dam. You can kiss the Nile goodbye. I don't think they were bluffing either.

Let's all hope the Islamic Brotherhood is content to just fund Hezballah rather than attacking Israel directly. If Egypt were to attack Israel and Israel took out the Aswan dam, Earth doesn't have enough trees to print the UN resolutions condemning Israel.

I also suspect that it will take at least a decade for the Brotherhood to subsume the military. Until that happens, no attack against Israel is likely to be carried out.

Your point about elections is valid. It's best for people to have the freedom to govern themselves - even if we end up killing them for their decisions, at least they will be THEIR decisions.

 

[Zebo]

The bankers finance both sides in conflict since forever. Bankers control Obama so there you go. Hope none of you are dump enough to die for their profiteering.