How come a $1500 computer can't keep accurate time like my $5 clock?

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Eli

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The reason you guys don't have problems with XP is because as you say, it auto syncs with the time server. Of course you're not going to notice it. I think I have that feature turned off.

I think dullard's response is the correct one.
 

sygyzy

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For all of you who says "my time is never off ... it auto-updates", that is an oxymoron in itself. Your clock is ALWAYS off, that's why it has to update itself. The OP and others are talkinga bout keeping accurate time.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
For all of you who says "my time is never off ... it auto-updates", that is an oxymoron in itself. Your clock is ALWAYS off, that's why it has to update itself. The OP and others are talkinga bout keeping accurate time.

Auto-update refers to a scheduling feature in Windows XP that syncs your time when you specifiy it. There is no oxymoron there. It's just making sure that your time is synched. If it is, everythings good. If it isn't, then it gets synched.

It could be either what Minendo suggested (dying CMOS battery) or what dullard suggested (damn programs that always mess with the clock).
 

fredtam

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The CMOS battery answer can be correct. Everytime your computer is resarted the OS gets the time from the CMOS clock. If your battery is dying the clock will start to lose time. If you do not restart your computer it does not continue to check with the CMOS clock and depends on the the OS alone which is not a very good time keeper. As it gets busy doing other things it will lose time. The busier it gets the more time it will lose .
 

3chordcharlie

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There's a GREAT program from GATOR that will keep your time absolutely perfect... wait for the pop-up that says 'your clock may be wrong' then click it and answer yes to absolutely everything they ask.

Don't read: just click.

please to do this unfailingly :p
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: sygyzy
For all of you who says "my time is never off ... it auto-updates", that is an oxymoron in itself. Your clock is ALWAYS off, that's why it has to update itself. The OP and others are talkinga bout keeping accurate time.

Auto-update refers to a scheduling feature in Windows XP that syncs your time when you specifiy it. There is no oxymoron there. It's just making sure that your time is synched. If it is, everythings good. If it isn't, then it gets synched.

It could be either what Minendo suggested (dying CMOS battery) or what dullard suggested (damn programs that always mess with the clock).
Uh.. hello?

If your clock needs to be synced, that means it was inaccurate.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: sygyzy
For all of you who says "my time is never off ... it auto-updates", that is an oxymoron in itself. Your clock is ALWAYS off, that's why it has to update itself. The OP and others are talkinga bout keeping accurate time.

Auto-update refers to a scheduling feature in Windows XP that syncs your time when you specifiy it. There is no oxymoron there. It's just making sure that your time is synched. If it is, everythings good. If it isn't, then it gets synched.

It could be either what Minendo suggested (dying CMOS battery) or what dullard suggested (damn programs that always mess with the clock).
Uh.. hello?

If your clock needs to be synced, that means it was inaccurate.


Ok but it's autosynching, as in a scheduled synch. Just because you have autosynching does not mean that your clock is inaccurate. If my clock says its 12:00:01 and when autosynch is run it's 12:00:01, nothing happens, but autosynch has still been run.
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: Sysadmin
Originally posted by: minendo
Because you are an idiot.

Seriously, just replace the cmos battery.

DING DING DING WINNAR!!


Sysadmin

No offense, but did you even knwo his siituation? There was an issue.. a very small one, w/ the nforce2 boards (particularlly the one I got, asus a7n8x dlx) not keeping time accurately. Ran fast by about 10 seconds a minute. so it needs to be updated every 5 minutes or so... windows autoupdate never worked for me when I tried to set it to that much of an interval. Now I just use atomic timesync.

but yeah, not always something as simple as a cmos battery.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Because your $1500 computer's primary purpose isn't to keep accurate time.

Well, that's a pretty weak excuse. For alot of things it's more important for my computer to keep accurate time then a $5 walmart watch.

what do you mean that's weak? out of a $1500 computer there's a $0.25 oscillator and a $1.00 battery to keep time for you. the rest is all pure processing and storage.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
There's a GREAT program from GATOR that will keep your time absolutely perfect... wait for the pop-up that says 'your clock may be wrong' then click it and answer yes to absolutely everything they ask.

Don't read: just click.

please to do this unfailingly :p

HA! I download GATOR for free off Kazaa, I=teh H4><0R
 

geno

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The same reason my $1200 computer doesn't taste as good as a $1 hamburger :p
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
because your 10 cent cmos battery sucks or your power supply sucks.

This has nothing to do with the power suply. The real time clock has its own battery, and it isn't dependent on external power.
The CMOS battery is failing when the time simply reset to something like 1 January 2000 or something like that (it depends on mainboard)

Calin
 

dighn

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maybe they use shtty crystals

bastage

oh well at least you can sync time with timer servers
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: JoeKing
Yes it can
That's about the best solution out there but the fact that you have to run a separate program just to sync it really sucks. I wish there were an installable service so I wouldn't have to see that thing in the systray all the time.
 

MAME

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my nforce2 shuttle mobo has the same problem.

I was late to work by 10 mins the first time I noticed it. I'm curious to see how far off it is after a month of inactivity...actually, it'll be 5 weeks.

Anyway, it's not always just the CMOS battery or power supply
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: JoeKing
Yes it can

Windows can do this automatically. Just double click on the clock on the screen.

Edit: I just wish it was a 24 hour clock.

Go to Control Panel, Regional Options, Time, Time Format, choose a time format with HH or H
Good luck

Calin
 

stnicralisk

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Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Also, I'm pretty sure the really expensive automatic watches, such as Rolex aren't as accurate as the less expensive battery operated quartz watches.

My rolex is kinetic this is the reason they dont have perfect time. There is a company that has a watch that keeps nearly perfect time but I forgot who they are because it wasnt important to me.