How come a $1500 computer can't keep accurate time like my $5 clock?

[Gimli43Orcs]

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[JoeKing]

Yes it can

 

[minendo]

Because you are an idiot.

Seriously, just replace the cmos battery.

 

[Eli]

That's a very good question, really.. heh.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: minendo
Because you are an idiot.

Seriously, just replace the cmos battery.

That doesen't have anything to do with it.

I have to run AtomTime at least once a week.

It's usually off by 1-3 mins either way. Heh.

 

[Armitage]

Yea, computer clocks suck. CMOS battery has nothing to do with it.
NTP is your friend.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Because your $1500 computer's primary purpose isn't to keep accurate time.

 

[Gimli43Orcs]

same here.i have to run atomtime on every one of my computers too.
minendo..u dont have a clue

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: minendo
Because you are an idiot.

Seriously, just replace the cmos battery.

That doesen't have anything to do with it.

I have to run AtomTime at least once a week.

It's usually off by 1-3 mins either way. Heh.

I don't think my computer time is ever really off. If you use windows xp you can just have it sync automatically.

I figured the cmos battery helps would do matter.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Also, I'm pretty sure the really expensive automatic watches, such as Rolex aren't as accurate as the less expensive battery operated quartz watches.

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Because your $1500 computer's primary purpose isn't to keep accurate time.

Well, that's a pretty weak excuse. For alot of things it's more important for my computer to keep accurate time then a $5 walmart watch.

 

[dullard]

Programs, programs, programs. Many programs (especially older ones) play with the clock. Your watch doesn't run hundreds of different programs, written by different people, with different methods to control their speed.

I've written more than one program which unintentionally will alter the clock by a minute or two each time they are run. It is just part of the programming language/compiler that does it.

 

[Ladies Man]

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Also, I'm pretty sure the really expensive automatic watches, such as Rolex aren't as accurate as the less expensive battery operated quartz watches.

sure, keep thinking that while you wear your $5 casio

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Originally posted by: Ladies Man

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Also, I'm pretty sure the really expensive automatic watches, such as Rolex aren't as accurate as the less expensive battery operated quartz watches.

sure, keep thinking that while you wear your $5 casio

Who said I wear a $5 casio. Of course I'd rather have a rolex, but automatics just aren't as accurate.

 

[Calin]

In the "cut-throat" type market, savings are made in every possible spot. If by replacing a quartz oscillator with a cheap RC one (resistor-capacitor) the savings are important in the total production, then they will do it. Anyway, on things critical on timing (unlike your computer) like your network card, the quartz oscillator is still there. You might want to take a look, it is a all-metal thing, looking like a 2-legged transistor and on its side is written something like 40.00001 MHz

Calin

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: minendo
Because you are an idiot.

Seriously, just replace the cmos battery.

How did you become elite with such dumbass replies?

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: minendo
Because you are an idiot.

Seriously, just replace the cmos battery.

That doesen't have anything to do with it.

I have to run AtomTime at least once a week.

It's usually off by 1-3 mins either way. Heh.

Well the only time I have ever had problems with the clock was when my CMOS battery was dying.

 

[Amused]

My clock is never off. I'm running XP, so it autoupdates, but it never strays from the correct minute. I know, I have a radio controled clock in my office. They both match up perfectly all the time.

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Also, I'm pretty sure the really expensive automatic watches, such as Rolex aren't as accurate as the less expensive battery operated quartz watches.

While you are correct, wearing a mechanical watch isn't all about accuracy. Think about it, a mechanical watch is a micromachine less than 30mm in diameter, and keeps time to at least 99.998% if COSC certified. Now, my Seiko is more accurate than my Rolex, but my Rolex is more comfortable, looks better, and I just like the idea that my watch is dependent on me, as much as I am on it (automatic movement). I am also a mechanical junkie, so knowing about how a watch works is something I enjoy too. Also, just because a watch is quartz, doesn't mean it will keep accurate time. I have seen many a cheap quartz off by a second or more a day, which adds up. I have also seen mechanical watches which are more accurate than some quartz watches. I have seen a mechanical watch gain on second over the course of several months, which even meets COSC standards for a quartz chronometer.

 

[LuNoTiCK]

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Also, I'm pretty sure the really expensive automatic watches, such as Rolex aren't as accurate as the less expensive battery operated quartz watches.

While you are correct, wearing a mechanical watch isn't all about accuracy. Think about it, a mechanical watch is a micromachine less than 30mm in diameter, and keeps time to at least 99.998% if COSC certified. Now, my Seiko is more accurate than my Rolex, but my Rolex is more comfortable, looks better, and I just like the idea that my watch is dependent on me, as much as I am on it (automatic movement). I am also a mechanical junkie, so knowing about how a watch works is something I enjoy too. Also, just because a watch is quartz, doesn't mean it will keep accurate time. I have seen many a cheap quartz off by a second or more a day, which adds up. I have also seen mechanical watches which are more accurate than some quartz watches. I have seen a mechanical watch gain on second over the course of several months, which even meets COSC standards for a quartz chronometer.

No I'm certainly not talking about a cheap quartz, because no one wants that. There is also something about owning a watch like a Rolex over a Seiko, even if the Rolex is automatic. I was just stating that a good quartz is more accurate, but I also didn't think they made automatics that accurate.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: minendo
Because you are an idiot.

Seriously, just replace the cmos battery.

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[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK

Originally posted by: Marauder911

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Also, I'm pretty sure the really expensive automatic watches, such as Rolex aren't as accurate as the less expensive battery operated quartz watches.

While you are correct, wearing a mechanical watch isn't all about accuracy. Think about it, a mechanical watch is a micromachine less than 30mm in diameter, and keeps time to at least 99.998% if COSC certified. Now, my Seiko is more accurate than my Rolex, but my Rolex is more comfortable, looks better, and I just like the idea that my watch is dependent on me, as much as I am on it (automatic movement). I am also a mechanical junkie, so knowing about how a watch works is something I enjoy too. Also, just because a watch is quartz, doesn't mean it will keep accurate time. I have seen many a cheap quartz off by a second or more a day, which adds up. I have also seen mechanical watches which are more accurate than some quartz watches. I have seen a mechanical watch gain on second over the course of several months, which even meets COSC standards for a quartz chronometer.

No I'm certainly not talking about a cheap quartz, because no one wants that. There is also something about owning a watch like a Rolex over a Seiko, even if the Rolex is automatic. I was just stating that a good quartz is more accurate, but I also didn't think they made automatics that accurate.

Well, most Rolex's are whats called a Chronometer. A chronometer is a watch movement which is certified to be -4/+6 seconds a day. This is where I got my figure for. And forgive me, I was wrong. It is at least 99.9930556 for +6, and 99.9953704 for -4. Now, most Rolex's that arent COSC certified chronometers (the no date submariner for instance) is still regulated to those standards, but the movement is not sent to COSC for testing. A watch that doesnt bear the name chronometer does not have to fall within these standards. Now, just because a watch can be -4/+6 if it is a chronometer, doesn't mean they are all like that, and some could end up being +1 a day, or in some cases a week or month. Every watch is different, and the oil distribution, adjustment of the balance wheel, etc... all determine how accurate it will be.

 

[So]

Because you $1500 computer isn't a $1500 clock. It is a $1500 computer with a 5 cent clock built in.

Why doesn't the clock in your $15000 car keep time as well as your $40 timex watch?

I paid $15000 for a clock! I should be able to calculate the precise speed of light with it damnit! :|:|

 

[Calin]

Yes, I had a electronic watch that went faster with 13 secs a day - and an "Slava" mechanical watch that has 20 secs a day error. While the mechanical watches have sometime the possibility to compensate for this, with an electronic one you're out of luck.
About the 1-3 minutes every week, you're pretty much unlucky. there is a circuit (the real time clock) that might be changed - the main oscillator for time is in there - but you won't solve much (if anything)

Calin

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Calin
Yes, I had a electronic watch that went faster with 13 secs a day - and an "Slava" mechanical watch that has 20 secs a day error. While the mechanical watches have sometime the possibility to compensate for this, with an electronic one you're out of luck.
About the 1-3 minutes every week, you're pretty much unlucky. there is a circuit (the real time clock) that might be changed - the main oscillator for time is in there - but you won't solve much (if anything)

Calin

Yeah, that's a good point. A quartz watch cannot be adjusted the same as a mechanical watch. However, a mechaquartz watch has some degree of freedom in adjustments, although it still doesn't have the same amount as a pure mechanical.