How Canadians measure

[WelshBloke]

paragraph breaks are so hard to understand. the speedo is half the sweep distance per mph as the US version, making it harder to read at a glance.

Well if you're going to ignore my implied /s then I'll post seriously.

If you need a super accurate measurement in C or F then you are going to have to use a decimal anyway (the difference isnt that much), plus if you are doing anything scientific then you should use K (which is kinda C anyway).

Your speedo just sounds like more of a terrible design of your speedo than an issue with KPH tbh as you are complaining about the exact opposite thing than you are complaining about with C.

 

[WelshBloke]

Pint Or Punishment: This Law Can Fine Bars That Underpour

If a pub stiffs you, you can file a complaint with Measurement Canada.

m.huffingtonpost.ca

<---- This guy doesn't even drink.

Excellent!

Not the not drinking thing obviously. I'll just silently judge you on that!

 

[feralkid]

Eh? Your truck measures speed in °C?

My clock measures time in parsecs.

 

[Denly]

How strict are you with booze measures in the pub there? Its proper serious business here if you short measure people, you're likely to get fined in the thousands and get shut down. And its pretty rigorously enforced as well!

In real life no one care, we sit down and say give me a "budwiser"(Not that I drink bud just to give you an idea). Some place use pint on the manual, some use 500ml, no one have a clue what they're ordering. I have places short pour while other place over, never heard anyone complaint.

The only time I complaint was in a brewery, manual call 14oz and the dude gave me a 12oz.

 

[WelshBloke]

In real life no one care, we sit down and say give me a "budwiser"(Not that I drink bud just to give you an idea). Some place use pint on the manual, some use 500ml, no one have a clue what they're ordering. I have places short pour while other place over, never heard anyone complaint.

The only time I complaint was in a brewery, manual call 14oz and the dude gave me a 12oz.

I can tell if a pint is short just by the weight picking it up.

 

[sdifox]

I can tell if a pint is short just by the weight picking it up.

spoken like a true neurotoxin addict.

 

[WelshBloke]

spoken like a practised and dedicated true neurotoxin addict.

FTFY!

 

[Iron Woode]

The chart brings back memories. In the 80's when the metric conversion took place in Agriculture the Ag-Canada recommends, a roughly 100 page soft covered book published a conversion chart. When I visited a research station they would ask me to take a case of them to get to farmers. In those days I ran a lot of research trials . You guessed it. The conversion chart was bad. The panicked call came to bring back the books.

back in the early 80's Airlines were changing over to metric for fuel measurements. This caused serious headaches going from pounds/litre to kg/litre. Screwing up that calculation was common unless you were paying attention. That caused Air Canada Flight 143 to run out of fuel and crash land at Gimli, Manitoba in 1983.

 

[Leymenaide]

back in the early 80's Airlines were changing over to metric for fuel measurements. This caused serious headaches going from pounds/litre to kg/litre. Screwing up that calculation was common unless you were paying attention. That caused Air Canada Flight 143 to run out of fuel and crash land at Gimli, Manitoba in 1983.

I remember this.

In 1983, two pilots miraculously landed a jumbo jet with no fuel from 40,000 feet

With no casualties, the ‘Gimli Glider’ was a feat of flying

timeline.com

Ona gentle summer evening in 1983, two boys were riding bikes in rural Canada when a jumbo jet came out of the sky at 200 miles an hour.

At 40,000 feet, the plane’s engines had failed 17 minutes earlier. But on the ground, a crowd of sports car enthusiasts were having a post-race barbecue on the airstrip where the pilots intended to land. With its front landing gear disabled, the Air Canada Boeing 767 slammed into the runway, casting behind it a stream of sparks the length of a football field. The crowd scattered to safer ground. From the cockpit, captain Bob Pearson could see the petrified faces of the two boys as they fled.

Whether they had time to glean it or not, the crowd of drag-race enthusiasts was escaping the trajectory of the jet as it attempted an emergency landing, using a stretch of racetrack as an improvised runway. A series of improbable conditions and mishaps led to this moment, each of which contributed to a singular nightmare: a commercial jet having run out of fuel with 69 people on board.

The plane was brand new, and came with some novel glitches in its computer-based fuel-measurement system—not to mention a processor disconnected due to improper soldering. Canada’s recent pivot from the imperial to the metric system didn’t help either. The 767 was among the first aircraft in Air Canada’s fleet to abide by the new metric measurements, and the formula pre-flight engineers used to manually account for the fuel load solved not for kilograms but for the more diminutive pound. These problems, plus a broken chain of communication, caused two experienced Air Canada pilots to leave the ground with only 9,144 of the requisite 20,400 kilograms of fuel, less than half of what they would need to fly the scheduled 2,100 miles from Montreal to Edmonton.

 

[WelshBloke]

back in the early 80's Airlines were changing over to metric for fuel measurements. This caused serious headaches going from pounds/litre to kg/litre. Screwing up that calculation was common unless you were paying attention. That caused Air Canada Flight 143 to run out of fuel and crash land at Gimli, Manitoba in 1983.

The idea that anyone ever measured anything in pounds per litre is making my brain hurt!

 

[Iron Woode]

The idea that anyone ever measured anything in pounds per litre is making my brain hurt!

Gimli Glider - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

it's fascinating reading.

 

[WelshBloke]

Gimli Glider - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

it's fascinating reading.

"On the day of the accident, two technicians and two pilots worked on the calculation in Montreal. One technician stopped after he found that he wasn't making any progress. Another technician was using a piece of paper that he had in his pocket, and he stopped when he ran out of space. First Office Quintal did the calculation by hand, and Captain Pearson checked the arithmetic with his Jeppesen slide rule."

Regardless of the insane mixing of measurements the above is pretty scary to think of when booking a flight!

Not that there's many flights being booked at the moment!

 

[sdifox]

Idiots...

 

[Stopsignhank]

The original chart had distance measured in km. Then people said that in reality distance in Canada is measured in time. For instance you are not 100 km from Toronto, you are one hour away from Toronto. I posted the revised chart.

 

[sdifox]

The original chart had distance measured in km. Then people said that in reality distance in Canada is measured in time. For instance you are not 100 km from Toronto, you are one hour away from Toronto. I posted the revised chart.

And you also have to specify if it involves the 401 or QEW. All bets are off if it invloves either of those hellholes pretending to be highways.

Only the nightshift truckers can get to Toronto in one hour from 100km away.

Weekday morning rush hour it would take me more than an hour to drive 17km to downtown Toronto. And 1.5hr back in the afternoon.

 

[Stopsignhank]

And you also have to specify if it involves the 401 or QEW. All bets are off if it invloves either of those hellholes pretending to be highways.

Only the nightshift truckers can get to Toronto in one hour from 100km away.

I just made up numbers. And I am in Southern California. We have the 405 where it will take you 30 minutes or 3 hours depending on the time of day.

This does remind me I used to watch Wheeler Dealers and always wondered why they talked in Miles per hour.

 

[pmv]

Pretty much the same system as the UK, except if it's personal weight it's in Stone.

 

[Stopsignhank]

back in the early 80's Airlines were changing over to metric for fuel measurements. This caused serious headaches going from pounds/litre to kg/litre. Screwing up that calculation was common unless you were paying attention. That caused Air Canada Flight 143 to run out of fuel and crash land at Gimli, Manitoba in 1983.

NASA lost a satellite because of this.

At 09:00:46 UT Sept. 23, 1999, the orbiter began its Mars orbit insertion burn as planned. The spacecraft was scheduled to re-establish contact after passing behind Mars, but, unfortunately, no signals were received from the spacecraft.

An investigation indicated that the failure resulted from a navigational error due to commands from Earth being sent in English units (in this case, pound-seconds) without being converted into the metric standard (Newton-seconds).

NASA link

The Mars Climate Orbiter, built at a cost of $125 million, was a 338-kilogram robotic space probe launched by NASA on December 11, 1998 to study the Martian climate, Martian atmosphere, and surface changes. In addition, its function was to act as the communications relay in the Mars Surveyor ‘98 program for the Mars Polar Lander. The navigation team at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) used the metric system of millimeters and meters in its calculations, while Lockheed Martin Astronautics in Denver, Colorado, which designed and built the spacecraft, provided crucial acceleration data in the English system of inches, feet, and pounds. JPL engineers did not take into consideration that the units had been converted, i.e., the acceleration readings measured in English units of pound-seconds^2 for a metric measure of force called newton-seconds^2. In a sense, the spacecraft was lost in translation.

 

[Iron Woode]

I just made up numbers. And I am in Southern California. We have the 405 where it will take you 30 minutes or 3 hours depending on the time of day.

This does remind me I used to watch Wheeler Dealers and always wondered why they talked in Miles per hour.

To understand just how nuts Ontario Highway 401 is in Toronto, just watch the series Heavy Rescue: 401.

 

[brianmanahan]

To understand just how nuts Ontario Highway 401 is in Toronto, just watch the series Heavy Rescue: 401.

i've only been on 403 up there and was blown away by how well everyone drove

like i've never seen a highway in the US that was close to being as civilized as 403, even in rush hour

 

[Red Squirrel]

Lol this is too accurate. So true about the distance/time thing too. Like I know the time it takes to get to certain cities but I would need to lookup the km. Typically it's 1 hour for each 100km though.

 

[Red Squirrel]

To understand just how nuts Ontario Highway 401 is in Toronto, just watch the series Heavy Rescue: 401.

Yeah you could not pay me enough to drive 400 series highways. It's total nuts. It's not so much bad drivers, it's just the fact that there's just so much traffic, and all going at like 1km/h for like 2 hours. It would drive me insane. Even when I'm not the one driving, I always hate that stretch when doing a road trip to the GTA. Took the train once and it was kind of fun when the train passed by there and we were doing normal train speed and you can see all the traffic just sitting there. "CHOO CHOO we're on a train haha suckers!"

 

[BoomerD]

Eh? Your truck measures speed in °C?

My 2019 Ford F150 does...or at least has the option to do so With a "click of a button.

 

[herm0016]

My 2019 Ford F150 does...or at least has the option to do so With a "click of a button.

is it in scientific notation? 70 mph is 1.04382e-7 c

 

[herm0016]

To understand just how nuts Ontario Highway 401 is in Toronto, just watch the series Heavy Rescue: 401.

i love that show. Highway to hell was better though.