How can you find manufacturers cost on a car?

[dxkj]

I know Invoice shows its value of sorts, but how do you find out the "manufacturers price" on a vehicle?

 

[radioouman]

I don't think that would be public information.... Would you like knowing that Honda produces the Accord at $8000 per vehicle? Probably not.

 

[StageLeft]

Average vehicle these days sells for like $27k costs them around $140, made by kids in gautemala.

 

[kaizersose]

yeah, there is a website out there that tells you the exact price the dealer pays from the manufacturer. i cant remember the exact site name, try some googleage.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: radioouman
I don't think that would be public information.... Would you like knowing that Honda produces the Accord at $8000 per vehicle? Probably not.

Isn't this something that is divulged to stock holders?

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Average vehicle these days sells for like $27k costs them around $140, made by kids in gautemala.

Not Chile?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Hoober

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Average vehicle these days sells for like $27k costs them around $140, made by kids in gautemala.

Not Chile?

The airbags are outsourced to crack babies to make in chile!

 

[MikeMike]

well, hehe, the H2, is GM's largest profit vehicle, i believe there is over a 80% markup

MIKE

 

[Vic]

Actual manufacturers' cost per vehicle is probably the most guarded secret in the automotive industry. Only the bigwigs know...

 

[dxkj]

I just saw a job benefit that was "emplolyees can purchase a new (blank) vehicle for manufacturers price + percentage) or something like that.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: dxkj
I just saw a job benefit that was "emplolyees can purchase a new (blank) vehicle for manufacturers price + percentage) or something like that.

One of my brothers works for a Daimler-Chrysler company, and their employee purchase program (considered probably the best in the industry as it can also be used by immediate family members up to 4 times per year) is 17% off dealer invoice. Manufacturers cost is not disclosed.

I was very tempted to use it earlier this year to buy an SRT-4, but then thought better of it.

 

[Imdmn04]

It's almost impossible for an average consumer to guesstimate where the profit point is. In order to know the cost, you would need to know how much they spend on marketing, salary of employees, R&D, manufacturing and ton of other things for a model, when you add all those up and divided by number of cars they produce for that that model, that will be your average manufacturing cost.

This does not even include how much money they have used to bribe the politicians. A lot of the "costs" are hidden, which will make difficult even for the manufactures themselves to calculate.

 

[Tom]

$75 for iron and steel
$30 aluminum
$20 for rubber and plastic
$10 copper
$20 miscellaneous

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: dxkj
I just saw a job benefit that was "emplolyees can purchase a new (blank) vehicle for manufacturers price + percentage) or something like that.

One of my brothers works for a Daimler-Chrysler company, and their employee purchase program (considered probably the best in the industry as it can also be used by immediate family members up to 4 times per year) is 17% off dealer invoice. Manufacturers cost is not disclosed.

I was very tempted to use it earlier this year to buy an SRT-4, but then thought better of it.

sorry buddy, its not the "best" my grandfather worked for gm, and they give gms same thing as what D-C does.

however, it has been extended well beyond immediate family, i think its now into like cousins, can use it. and like 8 cars.

however, i like gm's deal where if you work high enough for them, they give you a car for 6 months free. although you dont chose the car, you can get anything from an aztek, to a vette, to a cavalier, to a cts. all free. the only restriction is you buy 1 car a year, @ invoice.

MIKE

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
$75 for iron and steel
$30 aluminum
$20 for rubber and plastic
$10 copper
$20 miscellaneous

$20 of ducktape and glue

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: TechnoKid

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
$75 for iron and steel
$30 aluminum
$20 for rubber and plastic
$10 copper
$20 miscellaneous

$20 of ducktape and glue

Squeaks and rattles $7

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Hoober

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Average vehicle these days sells for like $27k costs them around $140, made by kids in gautemala.

Not Chile?

The airbags are outsourced to crack babies to make in chile!

that must be why nissans prices are so damn cheap

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Vic
Actual manufacturers' cost per vehicle is probably the most guarded secret in the automotive industry. Only the bigwigs know...

I was just thinking one could probably get a really rough estimate of margin over the entire fleet by dividing the profit by revenue. Like I'm guessing Toyota's cost per car must be pretty low because they've been making bank recently.

 

[dcdomain]

I read somewhere once that it costs around $4000 in raw materials.

So you have to factor in R&D, Tooling, Transport, Advertising etc...

 

[dxkj]

so in other words, no one can answer the question.

"What does 3% above manufacturers price, mean?"

 

[radioouman]

Originally posted by: dxkj
so in other words, no one can answer the question.

"What does 3% above manufacturers price, mean?"

Nope... all the discounts will be something like "xx% below dealer cost".

I've heard that most cars have a 50% mark up to cover R&D, adverstising, etc. However, it is not a constant mark up, as we have all heard that compact cars are not very profitable, where SUVs are very profitable. A Neon sells for $15,000 and costs $7500 to build has a 50% mark up. But an SUV that sells for $40,000 does not cost $20,000 to build. Raw material costs do not follow the same price scale that cars sell at. If a Neon costs $7500 to build, you can bet that a full sized SUV MAYBE costs $15,000 to manufacuture, but sells for three times the price.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: dxkj
so in other words, no one can answer the question.

"What does 3% above manufacturers price, mean?"

In other words, yes. You can estimate how much the dealer pays for the car - some of the factory to dealer rebates are advertised, but the dealer holdback is not advertised however. (Something like 2-3% of MSRP supposedly)

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: dcdomain
I read somewhere once that it costs around $4000 in raw materials.

So you have to factor in R&D, Tooling, Transport, Advertising etc...

It's called overhead. It is different from company to company. I'm sure someone with familiarity with the auto industry (from the inside) and a cost accounting background could estimate this with some degree of accuracy but I'm sure that this information is not something that is readily available to the public.