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How can you be Pro-Life and Pro-Death Penalty?

Originally posted by: loki8481
see above.

and how can a Christian be pro-death penalty at all?
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I assume it's because the unborn baby hasn't "done anything wrong"... of course I guess those original sin believers are a bit stuck.

And God himself smote people all the time. 🙂

l2c

 
This has already been discussed (if you can call it a discussion) at length.

It boils down to who is dying. When you kill an unborn child, you are killing an innocent person who did nothing wrong. When you put a criminal to death, you are killing a person who is by no means innocent. That is the key difference. One is has done nothing to deserve to be killed, the other has inflicted great harm onto others.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
see above.

and how can a Christian be pro-death penalty at all?
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In general, they are not "pro-life". It's one of those disingenuous catch phrases they parrot to sell their agenda, like "death tax", "liberal media", and "PARTIOT Act". They are really anti-abortion. There is a world of difference between the two. Many of the most vocal anti-abortionists show a tragically callous disregard for the lives of the born, especially when those born are in other countries or even other economic classes.
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
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When you put a criminal to death, you are killing a person who is by no means innocent. ...
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I lean towards supporting the death penalty, though I have some reservations. One of my greatest reservations is exemplified by your comment. "A person who is by no means innocent ..." Sorry, but it far too many cases, that presumption has proven to be tragically false. Too often, the execution victim has been guilty only of being black, or being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or of annoying someone in a position of power.
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
This has already been discussed (if you can call it a discussion) at length.

It boils down to who is dying. When you kill an unborn child, you are killing an innocent person who did nothing wrong. When you put a criminal to death, you are killing a person who is by no means innocent. That is the key difference. One is has done nothing to deserve to be killed, the other has inflicted great harm onto others.
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The primary difference is that one is a living breathing person and the other is a pile of parisitic cells.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: loki8481
see above.

and how can a Christian be pro-death penalty at all?
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In general, they are not "pro-life". It's one of those disingenuous catch phrases they parrot to sell their agenda, like "death tax", "liberal media", and "PARTIOT Act". They are really anti-abortion. There is a world of difference between the two. Many of the most vocal anti-abortionists show a tragically callous disregard for the lives of the born, especially when those born are in other countries or even other economic classes.
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oh please Bow, this is one of the biggest piles of rubbish I have read in a while...basically your parroting your liberal mantra in slamming typical conservative phrases so who is worse?


OT....if unregulated people WOULD use abortion as another form of birth control in this country, heck I know more than three women who already did...granted not a large sample size, but I am betting they are not alone...

Back on topic....With regards to Christian and pro death penalty, personally I wouldn't know as I am catholic...I am pro death penalty and as Zero said one cannot compare abortion and capital punishment as in one case you are not giving the chance of life whereas with criminals they had their shot and blew it.
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman

and how can a Christian be pro-death penalty at all?
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Um...why are you asking me? I'm pro-choice, anti-death penalty[/quote]

Now this is interesting, you are willing to give women the power to deny life yet you are content in letting horrible failures in society continue to live....now that is something which makes 0 sense to me.
 
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
and how can a Christian be pro-death penalty at all?
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Um...why are you asking me? I'm pro-choice, anti-death penalty
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Now this is interesting, you are willing to give women the power to deny life yet you are content in letting horrible failures in society continue to live....now that is something which makes 0 sense to me.
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No. It makes perfect sense.

It's the people who are pro-life and pro-death penalty that are hypocrites
 
Originally posted by: b0mbrman

It's the people who are pro-life and pro-death penalty that are hypocrites
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right Bomber, you keep telling yourself that and maybe, just maybe someday it will come true....

Sorry but being pro choice and then anti death penalty makes about as much sense as a three dollar bill or the continued use of the penny...

the only time I would fully support abortion is either in an instance of rape, incest or possible harm to mother in birthing or underage pregnancy....yet I am a firm supporter of the death penalty for serious offenders especially serial killers. Allowing mothers to abort their children as a form of birth control for being the lazy ignorant slobs they are and then conversly condemning the death penalty for those failures in society who are human waste IMHO is nuts.
 
Originally posted by: bozack
the only time I would fully support abortion is either in an instance of rape, incest or possible harm to mother in birthing or underage pregnancy....yet I am a firm supporter of the death penalty for serious offenders especially serial killers. Allowing mothers to abort their children as a form of birth control for being the lazy ignorant slobs they are and then conversly condemning the death penalty for those failures in society who are human waste IMHO is nuts..
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Quoted for Truth

 
well, a big part of the pro-choice argument is that life does not begin immediately at conception. thus, if you don't think sperm + egg = life at the onset, early-term abortions would not be considered taking a life.

(just playing devil's advocate here)
 
Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: loki8481
see above.

and how can a Christian be pro-death penalty at all?
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In general, they are not "pro-life". It's one of those disingenuous catch phrases they parrot to sell their agenda, like "death tax", "liberal media", and "PARTIOT Act". They are really anti-abortion. There is a world of difference between the two. Many of the most vocal anti-abortionists show a tragically callous disregard for the lives of the born, especially when those born are in other countries or even other economic classes.
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oh please Bow, this is one of the biggest piles of rubbish I have read in a while...basically your parroting your liberal mantra in slamming typical conservative phrases so who is worse? ...
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Thank you for you insightful commentary. Not. Care to explain why you think it's "rubbish", and why you consider it "parroting your liberal mantra"? Maybe back up your slurs with a reasoned and rational argument supporting your opinions? Otherwise, I stand by what I said. I can't look into the minds of the millions of people who oppose abortion, but based on the comments and actions of their leaders and spokesman, they are anti-abortion, not pro-anything.


Edit: typos
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
well, a big part of the pro-choice argument is that life does not begin immediately at conception. thus, if you don't think sperm + egg = life at the onset, early-term abortions would not be considered taking a life.

(just playing devil's advocate here)
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point taken, just that I personally cannot understand how anyone wouldn't feel life begins (or at least has the chance to begin) at conception....

I have nothing against birth control at all, and heavy use of it....using at least two forms at once IMHO is ideal as the chance of actually becomming or getting someone pregnant when the pill and condoms are used in conjunction IMHO is less than one billionth of a percentile or something infintissimal like that..

Just have known too many women/girls who got loaded or whatever, screwed like bunnies unprotected...had abortions (multiple times for each of them) and then kept on getting slammed while drunk...to turn my stomach, some people will abuse any right which is truly a shame.
 
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