How can you all stand raver/trance stuff?

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d1abolic

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I'm not going to waste my time on a witty responce here. Simply put, you are a retard. Just thought i'd let you know ;)
 

sohcrates

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Originally posted by: phatcow
wtf is ravy gravy?


that stuff that you find the bottom of your pants coated in after a long night out (assuming your pants are big and drag on the floor a little)

combination of spit...possibly vomit...cigarette ashes, and lord knows what else :)
 

Mill

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What the hell is it with you people calling it the "scene." It seems almost if someone doesn't like trance they are stupid. Sorry but it is not my type of music. I listen to a lot of different stuff but trance I never did like. If I have a dissenting opinion then so be it. All this BS about not being hip to the "scene" makes me want to start killing candy kids. If someone doesn't like your music then accept it. Don't tell them they aren't in the "scene". Most of them including me think that the "scene" is a bunch of e-tards that have nothing better to do in life but listen to repetitive music. Deal with it.
 

shurato

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Someone who spins hip-hop is ragging on electronic dance music (edm) and their dj's.... hmmm.... should I even bother. Everyone has their own opinions on things and I guess to each their own. But you have a VERY narrowminded view on the so called rave "scene". You see what the media portrays to you on TV and eat it up...a headline like "Raving 13 year olds on ecstasy go bonkers and have holes in their brains". Just for the record, I'm 24, I've been listening to this stuff since middle school way before I knew what a drug was. There are drugs in the scene..but there are plenty of drugs in other scenes as well...you can't just ostracize "raves & ravers" because thats the new thing to pick on in the media these days. When I was younger and listening to this stuff, people would make fun of me and trip out when I played it in my car....hmmm now most of them are listening to the stuff and I would have never imagined them to do so. You can dislike the music purely because you don't like the music...why go lumping bad press and experiences with a whole genre of music? I don't go around calling everyone who listens to hip-hop, weed tokin, cristal drinkin gangbangers... open your eyes and mind, you might get to like it. I suggest trying some breakbeats or some chill drum and bass...... RAVE does not EQUAL TRANCE only....... for christs sake.

 

shurato

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Originally posted by: Millenium
What the hell is it with you people calling it the "scene." It seems almost if someone doesn't like trance they are stupid. Sorry but it is not my type of music. I listen to a lot of different stuff but trance I never did like. If I have a dissenting opinion then so be it. All this BS about not being hip to the "scene" makes me want to start killing candy kids. If someone doesn't like your music then accept it. Don't tell them they aren't in the "scene". Most of them including me think that the "scene" is a bunch of e-tards that have nothing better to do in life but listen to repetitive music. Deal with it.


Shut your ignorant pie hole...your the generic basher...repetitive this, e-tard that, candy raver this....YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT because you pretty much know nothing just like the typical person who hates and use the same played out argument. Get a clue then comeback and bring a stronger argument.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: shurato
Originally posted by: Millenium
What the hell is it with you people calling it the "scene." It seems almost if someone doesn't like trance they are stupid. Sorry but it is not my type of music. I listen to a lot of different stuff but trance I never did like. If I have a dissenting opinion then so be it. All this BS about not being hip to the "scene" makes me want to start killing candy kids. If someone doesn't like your music then accept it. Don't tell them they aren't in the "scene". Most of them including me think that the "scene" is a bunch of e-tards that have nothing better to do in life but listen to repetitive music. Deal with it.


Shut your ignorant pie hole...your the generic basher...repetitive this, e-tard that, candy raver this....YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT because you pretty much know nothing just like the typical person who hates and use the same played out argument. Get a clue then comeback and bring a stronger argument.

Then your arguement is that you don't like my arguement? Ok. Why don't you tell me what my opinion is supposed to be then. Explain how I "hate" and how my argument is weak. I never said that I can't understand why people listen to it. I never said I had a problem with the music. I PERSONALLY don't like it. But If I do like something I don't call it the "scene". That is the stupidest fscking thing I have ever heard. People disagree. Deal with it.
 

wonTong

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But If I do like something I don't call it the "scene". That is the stupidest fscking thing I have ever heard.
The "scene" referring to a group of people sharing a common interest.. i.e. Hip hop scene, classical scene, racing scene... rave scene. It doesn't mean a cool group of trendy kids dancing to music..


I actually listen to trance whilst programming. The consistent beats helps me "zone".
Yeah.. me too, but sometimes I just wanna get up and dance.


My g/f doesn't understand it because it doesn't have lyrics. To her, songs are about meaning and words and emotions.. The electronic soundscape of trance is lost on her..
Try giving her some vocal trance.. Happy hardcore has some nice lyrics too, but I don't think she'd handle the ~160 bpm too well.


It's pretty sad though how the media can have such a strong influence in creating negative opinions in viewers when they haven't experienced it themselves. Usually some just get the bad and broadcast it on television just to increase viewer ratings. Then people begin to associate raves and electronic music as the destruction of society.


The rave scene isn't what it used to be.. mostly because of how people blindly hate raves and wish to shut them down. The music won't die out though. So keep on spinnin DJ's..

 

phatcow

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My g/f doesn't understand it because it doesn't have lyrics. To her, songs are about meaning and words and emotions.. The electronic soundscape of trance is lost on her..

download "heaven" by dj sammy...

its so vocal, its sickening, yet catchy yet good.
 

LuDaCriS66

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I don't like trance and techno stuff that much... but I'd still choose it over anything that involves headbanging... :D

download "heaven" by dj sammy...

I love that song... but I got sick of it fast cuz my gf would keep playing it over and over again... and then at the clubs.. over and over.. :) oh well. It was played here like crazy.. with Toronto having such a large european population
 

gigapet

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I'd just like to add that i went ot aparty wensday night in NYC and on top of great performances from skylab 2000, christopher lawrence and a jaw dropping performance by rabbit in the moon, there was a two hour hip hop performance featuring the old skool skillz of krs-one(this is b4 puffy for those of you who dont follow hip hop). Also Featured was M.O.P, DJ Premier, Gangstar and supernatural. now you've prolly not heard of any of these rappers as they have not really appeared on mtv. However it was a good performance demonstrating true non commercialized hip hop at its best. Where of all places did this take place though in the middle of a fvcking rave right after a trance dj performed. Thank god most people arent as narrow minded as you or I wouldnt havve been able to see one of the best MC's of all time perform live....
 

LordMaul

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It is just that chiwawa is a 16 year old Backstreet Boys fan.

You say the other stuff is just crap? The same damn old beat?

Try downloading something like Nelly - Country Grammar, or another rap song, only just get the instrumental. Now download a trance track w/o vocals. Compare. Which one is more repetitive with only a few repeated loops?

 

ChefJoe

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I enjoy that stuff.... on AT with a nice beat going. It takes a little "learning" to come to appreciate it. Key thing for me was listening to a track and thinking about the beats and effects in use, then where the song was a few minutes ago... a few minutes before that. Besides the beat, take a look at how the transitions are accomplished and how one completely different piece is blended into another.
 

wonTong

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i went ot aparty wensday night in NYC and on top of great performances from skylab 2000, christopher lawrence and a jaw dropping performance by rabbit in the moon
niice.. i always wanted to check out some of the east coast parties. here in cali, dj's aren't really confirmed until u see them at the event. i arrived at one recently because ATB was supposedly going to spin... but guess what happened......


for some good streaming trance/hard trance/house/euro/classical music
digitallyimported.com
 

Geekbabe

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I have some Moby and Robert Miles and like it,have never been to a Raver club,lol, my goal when going out is usually to avoid Raving types :)
 

NzAnE2K

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Rave/Trance is cool. I dont go to raves or clubs and stuff. i just like the music. I dont see anything wrong with it. Just because one person doesnt like it, doesnt mean everone else hates it also.
 

CraigRT

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although I used to love trance and techno I do find it's getting to be kinda stupid lately. I don't like the music anymore and the whole rave = ecstacy thing is stupid, too. I am not going to just go out and say that it all sucks though, just that I don't really care like I used to think I did.
 

wonTong

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from my experience, a lot of people from the Asian crowd started listening to electronic music and going to raves because it was trendy. the "cool" kids would first be trance heads.. then switch to become junglists since too many newbies liked trance. then once nordic tracking was mastered, they'd go onto house-stepping and bite all the moves off each other. all fine with me if they like the music, but if it's to look cool.. then eh.

pretty much all of my friends who listened to trance or went raving don't go anymore.. the rave = ecstasy is mostly true, but it's the trance = ecstasy that pisses me off..
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: wonTong
from my experience, a lot of people from the Asian crowd started listening to electronic music and going to raves because it was trendy. the "cool" kids would first be trance heads.. then switch to become junglists since too many newbies liked trance. then once nordic tracking was mastered, they'd go onto house-stepping and bite all the moves off each other. all fine with me if they like the music, but if it's to look cool.. then eh.

pretty much all of my friends who listened to trance or went raving don't go anymore.. the rave = ecstasy is mostly true, but it's the trance = ecstasy that pisses me off..

i agree the people that go to be cool have pretty much ruined the scene cuiz they dont know how to responsibly use there drugs and they dont check there attitudes at the door
 

Descartes

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from my experience, a lot of people from the Asian crowd started listening to electronic music and going to raves because it was trendy

And why does everyone else go?

I listen to the colloquial "trance", and I've never been to a rave. If anyone says they don't go to a rave in a futile attempt to be "cool", they're fooling themselves.

 

xospec1alk

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Originally posted by: Descartes
from my experience, a lot of people from the Asian crowd started listening to electronic music and going to raves because it was trendy

And why does everyone else go?

I listen to the colloquial "trance", and I've never been to a rave. If anyone says they don't go to a rave in a futile attempt to be "cool", they're fooling themselves.

um, i go because i wanna see a particular dj spin...none of this 50 bux for pvd, or oakenfold crap...i'll pay my 50 bux to see 50 djs spin...i go cuz i like the music..not because its trendy...and the people are nice...no one bats an eye if you're there, no muscleheads, and not too many people are on something....most parties i goto, people are there for the music
 

wonTong

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And why does everyone else go?
Some people actually like dancing to the music with their favorite DJs spinning. It's the best when you're going with a group of friends and just having fun.. Kinda letting go and making new random friends from other states.

none of this 50 bux for pvd, or oakenfold crap
haha.. How many times have you heard someone say, "Paul Oakenfold is my favorite DJ." I didn't realize so many people like progressive trance. They are good DJs... but overated..

Out of all the parties I've gone to... I've never seen one fight or punch thrown.. or weapon present. Only a sprained ankle from dancing.