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Since there has been no evidence found that Saddam was a danger, how can the US legally hold him prisoner? Or is this another example of "might make right"?
How can the US legally how Saddam prisoner?
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At this point I think it's an example of "might makes right", as the UN never authorized force against Iraq for the violation of the terms of their resolution.
Because the UN wouldn't stand up to the US, we can do whatever we want. It's anarchy at the international level and might makes right. He was guilty of an illegal war with Kuwait but somehow, engaging in an illegal war to depose him doesn't seem to make sense, imo. BTW, our gov can, at this moment, label anyone in the world (yes even a US citizen though this is under review currently) an enemy combatant and hold them with no rights indefinitely, thanks to the cleverly labeled Patriot Act.
OK oK maybe Dr. Smooth is right.
Lets let him go right in the middle of Kurd country, kind of like the Salem witch hunts if he makes it back to Bagdad then it was meant to be
Lets let him go right in the middle of Kurd country, kind of like the Salem witch hunts if he makes it back to Bagdad then it was meant to be
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Turn him over to the Iranians, the Kuwaitis or even the Iraqi Shiites!Originally posted by: Romans828
OK oK maybe Dr. Smooth is right.
Lets let him go right in the middle of Kurd country, kind of like the Salem witch hunts if he makes it back to Bagdad then it was meant to be
All I can say is "Ouch!" I would pity the poor man if he was dumped there without guards. Would not be a pretty sight.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Turn him over to the Iranians, the Kuwaitis or even the Iraqi Shiites!Originally posted by: Romans828
OK oK maybe Dr. Smooth is right.
Lets let him go right in the middle of Kurd country, kind of like the Salem witch hunts if he makes it back to Bagdad then it was meant to be
Isn't it nice when we find things we can agree on?
IIRC, the US doesn't recognize any court that adjudicates "crimes against humanity". The sole international arbiter according to GWB is the guy with the biggest gun . . . and willingness to shoot on a moments notice.
You cannot claim Saddam illegally invaded Iran and Kuwait (the former Saddam claimed was pre-emptive . . . and the US basically agreed; while the latter was claimed to be a territorial/resource dispute) and not hold the US/UK to the same standard.
During which war? What entity can legally hold him and what is the source of their authority? Arguably his most egregious offenses were committed against Iranians and Iraqis . . . in particular his wanton disregard for noncombatants while attacking opposing troops. Fortunately, the world has a grea role model in America . . . we would never use munitions in civilian areas . . .
Unquestionably his most egregious act(s) was the thousands of his own citizens that he has murdered over the last 30 yrs. Throw in however many his sons murdered and his secret police and you have all the "authority" you need. Another new low for you Doc. Criticizing the US and Bush while swinging from Saddam's scrotum. Congrats.
Oh and just to be clear, brefore you throw your hands and say "who? me?" like you did in the other thread. Purposely "softening"
what Saddam did in order to draw some tenuous parallel between Saddams murdering of his own civilians and the non combatants who were killed during the war is what I'm calling you on Doc. It's a bullsh!t argument and you know it.
I dont think we can since bush has taken the US out of the world court. I think the only people who can take him to
court are ..
A) The people who he committed war crimes against.
b) the people who are still in the world court.
The US is temporarily in control of Iraq. Saddam is guilty of crimes in that country. The US as the current legal presence in Iraq can hold him until a civil presence in Iraq is ready to accept custody of him and place him on trial.
Dr Smooth are you trolling or do you really like Saddam that much or do you just hate the US?
Dr Smooth are you trolling or do you really like Saddam that much or do you just hate the US?
You forgot the forth option: Or is it just that you dislike Bush and/or the current administration that much?
Can't leave that out, since that seems to be an opinion many people have.
NO- to dislike Bush is to hate America. Because Bush is the spiritual leader and sworn protector of the American people, not to mention he was chosen by God to rule us.
Zephyr
yup "might makes right". without any country willing to challenge us (for the obvious reasons) were fit to do anything in iraq whether it be legal or not. and i dont see any country threatening military action against us.
But the world wanted nothing to do with Iraq and Saddam, they wanted to leave him there in peace.
And most of you guys have twisted thinking about the nature and outcomes of war
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