How can Mueller protect his investigation if fired

[Puffnstuff]

It sure does sound like Trump and his GOP lackeys in the House and Senate are about ready to go all out to try and stop Mueller's investigation dead in its tracks.

That's what it looks like to me and the media too.
http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch/trump-steps-up-attacks-on-mueller-probe-1117832259940

 

[mikeymikec]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42382628

"Trump Russia probe: Mueller improperly obtained emails, lawyer says"

I bet.

 

[cytg111]

Holy crap .. Fuck me .. This seems to getting to the test! .. Trump is going to fire Mueller .. Holy shit .. What The Actual Fuck. What happens after the fact will define geopolitics like nothing since WWII. Nice play mr Putin, nice play, you can hate the guy but you gotta give him props... Goddamn. Holy shit.

Santas special naughty list:
Gingrich
Hannity
McConnell? (even turtleneck seems to have reached some sort of line with the pedo ordeal)

Give up your special for santas special naughty list this year ...

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Strange that all this chatter of Trump firing Mueller happens a couple of days after Trumps private call to Putin.
Make it even worse the call was reported by Russia, US Media was kept unaware.
This isn't saying something happened during that call but given Trumps fondness for Puti and the WH not confirming the call is pretty bad optics.
I do want to be clear it's the Presidents job to speak to other leaders, I do feel Trump & Russia should be handled better than it was and to a higher standard than any other President at this time. I do not expect that standard to be applied to a future President unless there is agreement amongst professionals that Russia meddled & there needs to be a "Hello Russia....are you listening" moment.

 

[cytg111]

Strange that all this chatter of Trump firing Mueller happens a couple of days after Trumps private call to Putin.
Make it even worse the call was reported by Russia, US Media was kept unaware.
This isn't saying something happened during that call but given Trumps fondness for Puti and the WH not confirming the call is pretty bad optics.
I do want to be clear it's the Presidents job to speak to other leaders, I do feel Trump & Russia should be handled better than it was and to a higher standard than any other President at this time.

I can imagine Putin going "Fire mueller, I have ensured your congress support".
Psyops game is off the hooks.
Maybe someone could actually get through to Trump and convince him he is getting played.. idunno...

 

[boomerang]

Mueller is not going to be fired. What is happening right now is that the investigation is being exposed as a highly partisan endeavor. A fake dossier paid for by the Clinton camp, brazen supporters of Hillary on the team, donors to Hillary on the team, the FBI running interference for the Hillary camp, mega-leaks coming out of an investigation that is supposed to be confidential until its conclusion, to touch on just a few points that have undermined the investigation.

Muller has discredited himself in virtually every way possible. He knows it and the best scenario for him is to find a way out while saving what little credibility he has left. He's being allowed to find a way and he's undoubtedly smart enough to pursue it. Mueller is done along with the investigation and Trump will remain President. If necessary, gird your loins in preparation. You are going to get some underlings for the whipping post the same as underlings have become sacrificed in special counsel investigations of the past. Somebody has to go to prison or the investigator looks like a dumbass.

The media will spin all this and continue to hype it as they do keeping the faithful stirred up, in the dark and thinking they're still really bright folks. That's the world we live in right now. But take heart knowing that the first word in the term useful idiot is useful. You may be an idiot that the media can manipulate with ease but by golly you're still useful. There's something to be said for that and you may wear that label with pride.

 

[mnewsham]

Muller has discredited himself in virtually every way possible.

Lmao THIS is the best you guys could come up with?

I know the GOP spin machine has been working overtime lately, but this is just sad.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Mueller is not going to be fired. What is happening right now is that the investigation is being exposed as a highly partisan endeavor. A fake dossier paid for by the Clinton camp, brazen supporters of Hillary on the team, donors to Hillary on the team, the FBI running interference for the Hillary camp, mega-leaks coming out of an investigation that is supposed to be confidential until its conclusion, to touch on just a few points that have undermined the investigation.

Muller has discredited himself in virtually every way possible. He knows it and the best scenario for him is to find a way out while saving what little credibility he has left. He's being allowed to find a way and he's undoubtedly smart enough to pursue it. Mueller is done along with the investigation and Trump will remain President. If necessary, gird your loins in preparation. You are going to get some underlings for the whipping post the same as underlings have become sacrificed in special counsel investigations of the past. Somebody has to go to prison or the investigator looks like a dumbass.

The media will spin all this and continue to hype it as they do keeping the faithful stirred up, in the dark and thinking they're still really bright folks. That's the world we live in right now. But take heart knowing that the first word in the term useful idiot is useful. You may be an idiot that the media can manipulate with ease but by golly you're still useful. There's something to be said for that and you may wear that label with pride.

Highly partisan with an investigator who served under a Republican President, who was chosen by a Republican representative that serves under the guy who Mueller is investigating and the Confressional committee is assigned per law, members from all parties and the head of that is a Republican plus a dude who campaigned for Trump

Yup the fix is in

 

[ch33zw1z]

Highly partisan with an investigator who served under a Republican President, who was chosen by a Republican representative that serves under the guy who Mueller is investigating and the Confressional committee is assigned per law, members from all parties and the head of that is a Republican plus a dude who campaigned for Trump

Yup the fix is in

Yup, the fan base can convince themselves of just about anything. its why fear mongering works

 

[Commodus]

Mueller is not going to be fired. What is happening right now is that the investigation is being exposed as a highly partisan endeavor. A fake dossier paid for by the Clinton camp, brazen supporters of Hillary on the team, donors to Hillary on the team, the FBI running interference for the Hillary camp, mega-leaks coming out of an investigation that is supposed to be confidential until its conclusion, to touch on just a few points that have undermined the investigation.

Muller has discredited himself in virtually every way possible. He knows it and the best scenario for him is to find a way out while saving what little credibility he has left. He's being allowed to find a way and he's undoubtedly smart enough to pursue it. Mueller is done along with the investigation and Trump will remain President. If necessary, gird your loins in preparation. You are going to get some underlings for the whipping post the same as underlings have become sacrificed in special counsel investigations of the past. Somebody has to go to prison or the investigator looks like a dumbass.

The media will spin all this and continue to hype it as they do keeping the faithful stirred up, in the dark and thinking they're still really bright folks. That's the world we live in right now. But take heart knowing that the first word in the term useful idiot is useful. You may be an idiot that the media can manipulate with ease but by golly you're still useful. There's something to be said for that and you may wear that label with pride.

You're such a mindless Fox News-watching, Sean Hannity-worshipping automaton it's priceless. You literally don't know how to think for yourself -- you just wait for TV to tell you what to believe.

 

[cytg111]

Holy fuck.
Of course Mueller is going to get fired, cause the alternative is worse... Trump is looking at two buckets of shit, and firing Mueller is the lesser,

 

[SteveGrabowski]

If Trump does manage to fire Mueller, then it's the politicians' job to hold Trump accountable for impeding an investigation into the highest levels of government, and its the peoples' job to start protesting Trump's actions because it's a threat to a healthy democracy. If the people and the politicians fail to do their jobs, then I think a coup in the US starts to become a very real possibility, because if the President can basically do whatever he likes without any checks and balances, then the US may as well give up on the idea of democracy and hand Trump's family all the keys to the kingdom, and Trump can tell the people about how much money he's saved by firing everyone in the senate and congress.

You think a party that supported a child molester is going to care about a petty crime like treason? The only way the Dear Leader gets impeached is if the Democrats win the House, and the only way he gets removed from office is if he gets impeached and if more solid red states vote Democrat in the senate elections and Republicans want that anchor off their necks. But it would take a serious wave election to get there, eg one where safe seats like Cruz's would flip blue. I'm not holding my breath at the GOP giving a shit.

 

[fskimospy]

You're such a mindless Fox News-watching, Sean Hannity-worshipping automaton it's priceless. You literally don't know how to think for yourself -- you just wait for TV to tell you what to believe.

I would not be surprised if he genuinely believes this nonsense. If all you consume is ultra right wing media this is all you hear all day, that the investigation is compromised, partisan, etc. If every source you listen to says the exact same thing then sooner or later you start to believe it no matter how insane the idea is. That’s the bubble at work.

Boomerang is a particularly weird one though; as far as I can tell he comes in here a few times a week and writes some extended, far right conspiracy rant and then ignores all responses to it. I’ve never understood the point of that but he seems to enjoy it.

 

[omega3]

When can we expect Mueller to round off his investigation?

 

[soundforbjt]

When can we expect Mueller to round off his investigation?

When he’s done, Watergate took much longer than this and 41 people went down for that. We’ve got a ways to go yet is my guess.

 

[trenchfoot]

Strange that all this chatter of Trump firing Mueller happens a couple of days after Trumps private call to Putin.
Make it even worse the call was reported by Russia, US Media was kept unaware.
This isn't saying something happened during that call but given Trumps fondness for Puti and the WH not confirming the call is pretty bad optics.
I do want to be clear it's the Presidents job to speak to other leaders, I do feel Trump & Russia should be handled better than it was and to a higher standard than any other President at this time. I do not expect that standard to be applied to a future President unless there is agreement amongst professionals that Russia meddled & there needs to be a "Hello Russia....are you listening" moment.

In my mind Trump begged Putin to take some heat off of him and Putin threw him a bone via alleged Petersburg terrorist warning. Of course, that bone has a price tag attached to it that includes daily compounded interest.

The more Trump relies on Putin the more Trump gets compromised and the more he puts the nation in peril. Notice how Trump consistently praises Putin every chance he gets yet slanders his own intelligence agencies with alarming viciousness. So obvious yet so overlooked by his supporters.

This shit is real and the more Mueller digs into Trump's dealings with the Russians the more Trump is going to want to get Mueller off his ass. Trump is already set to pull the trigger. All he needs is some lame ass reason to stick and he'll do it.

Two things that are converging into a really big problem for Trump is Flynn's cooperation with Mueller and Mueller getting a hold of Trump's tax documents. When those two factors result in some kind of handshake between the two, Trump is as good as gone. (hopefully)

Trump and the threat to the nation he represents due to his reliance of the Russians to keep his job has got to be resolved and it looks like Trump is willing to go all in with the Russians to do it.

 

[soundforbjt]

Putin called Trump at Camp David today. Claims it was to thank Trump for a CIA tip about a bombing inST. Petersburg.

Two calls in four days, seems like something is going on.

 

[mikeymikec]

You think a party that supported a child molester is going to care about a petty crime like treason?

I don't believe I suggested that

 

[mikeymikec]

Mueller is not going to be fired.

Muller has discredited himself in virtually every way possible.

I'm pretty sure if the latter had occurred, the former would have happened as fast as Trump can say "you're fired", and Trump would love to have a legitimate (ie. not self-serving) reason to fire Mueller. Trump wouldn't have to spend his days whining about a witch-hunt and could get back to talking about not locking up Hillary.

But I'm curious, how exactly has Mueller discredited himself in your opinion?

 

[jackstar7]

If Rosenstein is fired, then firing Mueller is not needed. The new DAG can just stonewall the investigation.

 

[jackstar7]

Muller has discredited himself in virtually every way possible.

Name them. All of them, you goddamned hack.

 

[theeedude]

Republican party is starting a war with the FBI. I think it's not going to work out too well for them in the long run.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Mueller is not going to be fired. What is happening right now is that the investigation is being exposed as a highly partisan endeavor. A fake dossier paid for by the Clinton camp, brazen supporters of Hillary on the team, donors to Hillary on the team, the FBI running interference for the Hillary camp, mega-leaks coming out of an investigation that is supposed to be confidential until its conclusion, to touch on just a few points that have undermined the investigation.

Muller has discredited himself in virtually every way possible. He knows it and the best scenario for him is to find a way out while saving what little credibility he has left. He's being allowed to find a way and he's undoubtedly smart enough to pursue it. Mueller is done along with the investigation and Trump will remain President. If necessary, gird your loins in preparation. You are going to get some underlings for the whipping post the same as underlings have become sacrificed in special counsel investigations of the past. Somebody has to go to prison or the investigator looks like a dumbass.

The media will spin all this and continue to hype it as they do keeping the faithful stirred up, in the dark and thinking they're still really bright folks. That's the world we live in right now. But take heart knowing that the first word in the term useful idiot is useful. You may be an idiot that the media can manipulate with ease but by golly you're still useful. There's something to be said for that and you may wear that label with pride.

Amazing. It's like an article in The Onion come to life. You should start illustrating your posts.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Roy Moore is looking for work. I think he'd make a great replacement for Mueller. Maybe team him up with "Sheriff Joe" for a *real* investigative team.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Roy Moore is looking for work. I think he'd make a great replacement for Mueller. Maybe team him up with "Sheriff Joe" for a *real* investigative team.

Yeah especially since his birth certificate investigation went so well.