How can I maximize a pay increase tied to a promotion.

[Zargon]

In some organizations you have zero negotiating ability. You take it, or you leave it. There's no haggling.

I've worked in both ends of the spectrum. My first job out of college I reported directly to the owner of the company. My first year there I went in with a multipage list of the things I did for his company and then broke down what I was paid vs. other similar IT roles. Walked away making almost 13k more a year after that conversation.

In my last two places on an annual basis you got the same 1.5%-3% raise as everyone else. Doesn't matter how good you were. There was zero incentive for going above and beyond. And when you got a different title it was all a pre-calculated formula that was clearly defined. Took any human element out of the equation.

yeah and in other places its worse.

We get a bucket for raises per department, the manager chooses who gets what, then HR in their infinite brilliance of knowing nothing about what anyone does adjusts what the manager says, without telling them.

My boss has to ask us how much we make, because they wont tell him.

yay state employment

 

[vbuggy]

Yeah, learn to spell pseudo.

And, perhaps punctuate as, well.

It's bad news when an English-as-third-language guy is making fun of you.

 

[pcgeek11]

Its a working supervisor, so yeah, quite a few variables. I just want to present the base case possible

We have those too ( although not in the maintenance department ) just production. They are taking advantage of you in those types of positions. You get to do your work plus "whatever else we decide " for less money. It works with young people that want to feel they are actually in charge of something. The rest of your crew will resent you for it and it just isn't worth it IMO. I have seen this many times. My answer would be " Thanks, but a definitive No ".

 

[alkemyst]

The best point to negotiate salary is your starting salary. As many said most companies will not do more than 20% and many only 10% tops as a yearly adjustment.

The reasons are complex, but mostly because there is not a ROI for paying more than that sadly.

If you are below people that would work for you, you came in to low.