how can I LAN remotely?

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Lifer
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I have 3 computes LANed already in my place, and one other friend of mine wanted to join in for some LAN games, how can you can coonect his computer to our LAN?
 

luv2chill

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Use a PPTP VPN (Virtual Private Network). You can do it with NT4 Server (with RAS) and Win2k.

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AC

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but then you'll be using TCP/IP whereas most LAN games use IPX/SPX, right?

can this be done?
 

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Lifer
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westwood's Red Alert2 server is darn slow here in my place, I rather enjoy a LAN, and since I got access to 3 computers already....
 

Sir Fredrick

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Erm, sorry but I can't stand to see networking terminology abused like this. :)

LAN stands for Local Area Network. It is a noun. You can't have LANed a computer or group of computers. You can have computers in a LAN, or have a LAN with computers in it. Any remote connection to your LAN is, by definition, not part of your LAN, because it is not Local.
If your LAN includes remote connections then it is a WAN, a Wide Area Network.
 

thorin

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Actually Sir Fredrick the computer(s) in question would be "on" the LAN not "in" it.

The network is only the cables and the hubs/switches/routers that make up the LAN. Although highly unusable you could have a LAN with no computers at all, a LAN with only network storage devices, etc....

Thorin
 

Lord Evermore

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Without a device sending and receiving data, you have no LAN. Cables and switches alone can't be a LAN. A router...maybe but still not really a LAN, no real data can be generated and passed between routers, only routing data, which is only related to the routing of the data generated by devices on a LAN.

A LAN could be any 2 devices connected via local cabling (presumably within the same building), with or without switches or hubs, which pass data between each other for the sharing of information.

Oh yeah, and for some games you can make one of the computers be the host (i.e., the server), so you could have the remote computer simply connect to the IP of that computer for connection to the game. Doesn't require VPN.
 

thorin

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Sry I totally disagree the network is everything between the computers, and is only used by the computers.

Just like you can have a phone network in your house but you don't have to have a phone. Like you can have a highway without cars on it. Like you can have a network of rivers with no water (dry season/rainy season). Like a spider web (read network) without a spider sitting on it. Missing these things may void the point of the object however they do not preclude the object from being what it is.

If the power goes off in your building and you don't have UPSs or any type of backup power does your LAN cease to be a LAN until the power comes back on? No the LAN is only the infrastructure not the devices it connects or the information it moves/carries.

Thorin
 

Sir Fredrick

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Again by definition of a LAN, a network with less than 3 computers is not a LAN at all. At least according to my A+ certification books.
 

thorin

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Yup I agree with that one, less then 3 systems/devices make a peer-to-peer conection or direct cable connection.

Thorin
 

zetter

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Ahh.... but the original poster said he had 3 computers, so it is a LAN.

You can calso have a LAN without any cables (wireless).
 

nickburns

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um i have 2 computers that are networked in a local area so despite your books standards, i consider it a local area network.
 

AC

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u can only setup an internet game with TCP/IP; u cannot setup a network game over IPX/SPX

u'll somehow need to set up your router to forward the ports the game uses to the host computer

then everyone types in the ip of the host computer (eg. internal IP for those on the LAN and the external IP for that friend)

that should work
 

Gunbuster

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Do you have to run some VPN service in 2000?

Does pro have it or do you need server?
 

Packet

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ok, besides what the actualy definition of the word LAN means

What worked for me, is when I wanted to play some AQ2 (this was a long time ago) on three of my LAN computers (Yes three, it is a LAN) along with a friend who was online...

I had to set a routing option on my server computer that said "Anytime there is a connection on port 27910 (is that Q2 or Q3? I forget) to forward the connection to 125.125.125.2, which was the computer who was hosting the game. Then everyone joined the server on the lan, and he connected from the net.

Dunno if you can do the same for Red Alert, or C&C2 or whatever as I never really played them.

BTW. I use sygate to do my NAT needs, so thats what I used to set routing preferences.
 
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<< The network is only the cables and the hubs/switches/routers that make up the LAN. Although highly unusable you could have a LAN with no computers at all, a LAN with only network storage devices, etc.... >>



Actually a LAN with storage devices is not a LAN at all but a SAN. :D