how can I install win2k over a lan?
- Thread starter dpopiz
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How does one go about getting that? He sounds like a regular user who can't get all that fancy stuff (like me
).yeah, please explain the steps or point me to a page that has them. oh yeah, and since I have no floppy, is it possible to put something on the HD to install over lan?
Here's more information on RIS and how to use it.
http://www.labmice.net/Windows2000/install/RIS.htm
Here's the basic concept howerver. First and foremost, if you don't have a floppy or CD Rom, you have to make sure you can actually boot from your NIC. It's also knows as PXE compatible. Look in your laptop's bios, if you can setup your NIC as one of the devices in the boot order, chances are your internal NIC is PXE compatible and will work with RIS.
Anyways, back to basic concept.
Setup a Win2000 server, install and configure active directory. (basic install is fine)
You also have to configure DHCP and DNS. After all that's done, install the RIS services, you can do that through the add/remove programs section in the control pannel, and then select components. You'll need a win 2000 professional CD to create a BASE image. To manage the RIS services from the 2000 server, go to users and computers, select the RIS box, and hit the properties, you'll see options on managing the images and such.
It takes a bit of research, not to mention a win2000 server box, but it's well worth the work. I use my RIS box all the time here at work. It's like having a version of ghost that can work on almost any hardware configuration. The more you read up on it, the more you'll like what you find. It used to take me 6 hours to build out a box and install and configure all of our company software. Now all I do it hook up the box to RIS and in about 1 hour without any user interaction I've got a fully built and configured box ready to deploy. I've been working with RIS for some time too, so if you have any questions, that those whitepapers can't answer, contact me directly and I'll hook you up.
Dan
dutrizacd@hotmail.com
http://www.labmice.net/Windows2000/install/RIS.htm
Here's the basic concept howerver. First and foremost, if you don't have a floppy or CD Rom, you have to make sure you can actually boot from your NIC. It's also knows as PXE compatible. Look in your laptop's bios, if you can setup your NIC as one of the devices in the boot order, chances are your internal NIC is PXE compatible and will work with RIS.
Anyways, back to basic concept.
Setup a Win2000 server, install and configure active directory. (basic install is fine)
You also have to configure DHCP and DNS. After all that's done, install the RIS services, you can do that through the add/remove programs section in the control pannel, and then select components. You'll need a win 2000 professional CD to create a BASE image. To manage the RIS services from the 2000 server, go to users and computers, select the RIS box, and hit the properties, you'll see options on managing the images and such.
It takes a bit of research, not to mention a win2000 server box, but it's well worth the work. I use my RIS box all the time here at work. It's like having a version of ghost that can work on almost any hardware configuration. The more you read up on it, the more you'll like what you find. It used to take me 6 hours to build out a box and install and configure all of our company software. Now all I do it hook up the box to RIS and in about 1 hour without any user interaction I've got a fully built and configured box ready to deploy. I've been working with RIS for some time too, so if you have any questions, that those whitepapers can't answer, contact me directly and I'll hook you up.
Dan
dutrizacd@hotmail.com
How do you propose to connect to the LAN? Pass that hurdle, and it is as simple as:
net use t: \\servername\sharename
t:\i386\winnt
where you've copied the CD to a folder on "servername" and shared it as "sharename".
All this talk about RIS seems a bit of overkill, to me.
dpopiz,
Installing an OS over the LAN is one option and may work for you depending on what you have on your laptop right now. If you don't have an OS on there at all or you don't have another computer to put the install files on, then you can't use blcjr's idea because you can't get to the network shares. If you don't have a windows 2000 server, then you can't use RIS. If the laptop is the only computer you have, then another option would be to go get a USB CD-ROM and use that. This option, of course, requires that your laptop be able to boot from a USB device. If it won't, then you might be better off looking for a cd-rom for your laptop. E-Bay would be my first stop if you don't want to pay whatever the manufacturer is asking for it.
Hope this helps and let us know if you have any further questions
Installing an OS over the LAN is one option and may work for you depending on what you have on your laptop right now. If you don't have an OS on there at all or you don't have another computer to put the install files on, then you can't use blcjr's idea because you can't get to the network shares. If you don't have a windows 2000 server, then you can't use RIS. If the laptop is the only computer you have, then another option would be to go get a USB CD-ROM and use that. This option, of course, requires that your laptop be able to boot from a USB device. If it won't, then you might be better off looking for a cd-rom for your laptop. E-Bay would be my first stop if you don't want to pay whatever the manufacturer is asking for it.
Hope this helps and let us know if you have any further questions
AMCRambler
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As far as I know pcmcia will not work in dos. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've tried and never got it to work.
I am doing the same thing right now. I have a laptop with a broken CD drive. I copied the i386 folder to a USB hard drive and started the computer with a DOS floppy with drivers for the USB hard drive. I then just run D:\i386\winnt.exe
I got the drivers from doing a ghost boot disk.
I got the drivers from doing a ghost boot disk.
ok, looks like I'm going to have to buy a floppy for $20 shipped ebay. damn this thing is starting to get expensive. I should have just bought one for a little more $ with all the stuff I want.
No. I really wish those who pointed you in the direction of RIS had thought more about what they were doing. RIS is a very specialized technology. It works only in an Active Directory domain, requires DHCP on the LAN and a dedicated server hosting RIS on its own dedicated partition, and then only works with specialized NICs: they must either be PXE bootable, or on a short list of NICs for which a boot floppy can be configured. PCMCIA network cards do not fit the bill.
Another option: remove the laptop drive and mount in your desktop. You'll need a $10 adapter to do this but this adapter comes in handy whenever you need to upgrade your hd or suffer a major drive error. Simply get dos on the drive then copy the windows setup files over. Piece of cake.
Its bootable if uve got Pxe BOot Rom in your Network Card..
generally not found in most of the network cards except a
few Intel and 3Com cards have it...u can also create a
bootable floppydisk for the same..
generally not found in most of the network cards except a
few Intel and 3Com cards have it...u can also create a
bootable floppydisk for the same..
I finally got it to connect to a network share in dos. I shared the cdrom drive w/ the win2k cd in it. so I go to the win2k cd on my lappy and type "setup". it says "this program cannot be run in dos mode"
help!
help!
Twista
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- Jun 19, 2003
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wth! floppy is cheaper on store sites. www.pricewatch.com get one for as low as $5 shipped. (resellersrating.com)
you dont run setup.exe in dos tho...you have to go into the i386 folder and run WINNT.EXE. Also you need a program called HIMEM.EXE which needs to be run before you start the installation. Good luck!
-Josh
-Josh
Once you have managed to connect to the LAN off the network card (netbooting) then you should be close to success!
I would suggest the option of a script on a remote machine that runs an unattended install of Windows. You will have to research how to setup an unattended installation script (which isn't too difficult--all the info can be found in the MS Knowledgebase). Once you make that script you should be home free, because the script can be run in DOS mode.
Good luck!
Eps.
I didn't look at this link very throughly, but it looks promising!
http://www.labmice.net/Windows2000/install/unattend_install.htm
I would suggest the option of a script on a remote machine that runs an unattended install of Windows. You will have to research how to setup an unattended installation script (which isn't too difficult--all the info can be found in the MS Knowledgebase). Once you make that script you should be home free, because the script can be run in DOS mode.
Good luck!
Eps.
I didn't look at this link very throughly, but it looks promising!
http://www.labmice.net/Windows2000/install/unattend_install.htm
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