How can I do this using Norton Ghost?

[G35]

I have been trying to get this to work for awhile and have gotten nowhere.
All I want to do is make an image of my hard drive and either burn it to a CD or copy it to my servers hard drive. Creating the server boot disk seems hard, so I also created a second partition on my hard drive and tryed to put the image file to the second partition. Problem is when I boot with a DOS disk I can't find the other partition or drive letter. If I use a win98 startup disk it assigns the hard drive and CD-ROM drive but not the 2nd partition. Is there a way to see this second partition so I can use ghost to save the image file to the 2nd partition??


Any ideas???

Thanks

 

[DocDoo]

Let me guess.... you are using Win2K on a NTFS partition.......?

 

[nEoTeChMaN]

You cannot store NTFS image on a NTFS partition. You can store it on Fat16 or fat32 partition.

 

[reicherb]

Have you formatted the second partition?

 

[G35]

The drive I'm trying to image is NTFS but the partition I'm trying to put it on it fat32 and its formated.

It is Windows 2000 on a IBM deskstar 45gig hard drive.

 

[DocDoo]

<< The drive I'm trying to image is NTFS but the partition I'm trying to put it on it fat32 and its formated.

It is Windows 2000 on a IBM deskstar 45gig hard drive. >>



This is what I thought

Don't worry, it does image your NTFS partition, but as stated above... can't save to it. Lucky for you, you have a FAT32 partition. When you are in the &quot;save-to&quot; menu, just use the only H.D partition that is shown. This will be the FAT32 one. Because of the way Ghost works, it moves the drive letters around (to confuse you). This happens because NTFS can't be seen in a DOS format.

FWIW: Ghost 6.5 Enterprise and Drive Image Pro 4.0 does not have this issue (they will let you save to a NTFS).

 

[G35]

I have Ghost 6.5 so this shouldn't be a problem but it is.
Does the partition I'm copying to have to be the same size as the partition it's coming from?
I have a 45 gig hard drive which is in a 40 gig and 3 gig partition. I'm betting this is part of the problem. The image should be less then 1 gig easly.

Any other ideas?

 

[DocDoo]

<< I have Ghost 6.5 so this shouldn't be a problem but it is.
Does the partition I'm copying to have to be the same size as the partition it's coming from?
I have a 45 gig hard drive which is in a 40 gig and 3 gig partition. I'm betting this is part of the problem. The image should be less then 1 gig easly.

Any other ideas? >>



Technically, &quot;Ghost 2001&quot; is still considered 6.5. However, &quot;Ghost 6.5 Enterprize&quot; is a different animal.

Your NT is on the 3gig side? (I would hope so)

I don't understand why you said your 40 &amp; 3 gig partitions are your problem?

As an example, a 2.4GB data partition will turn into 1.57GB

 

[ericd]

next question where does ghost reside? If it is on the NTFS partition it ain't gonna work, if it's on the floppy or the FAT32 partition you're fine. Assuming that it is on the FAT32 partition this is what you do.

1. Don't be worried about the fact that you only have two drive letters when booting from your Win98 boot disk, 98 doesn't read NTFS so it ignores that partition.

2. Go to the C drive (this is your FAT32 Partition since the NTFS partition is ignored)

3. Go to the directory that ghost is in

4. Launch ghost.exe

5. Choose Local, Partition, To Image

6. Select the disk that the partition you want to copy resides on. (since you only have one hard drive there should only be one option

7. Next select the partition you want to ge ghosted (this will be the labeled NTFS in the Description

8. Next it will ask where you want to put the image and what you want to call it. Just put in any damn file name you wish and put it wherever you want to on the FAT32 partion (which will still be labeled as C:\).

That's about all there is to it. If you have any more questions you can PM me or even e-mail me if you want, addy's in my profile.

Eric

 

[G35]

I think what you just said clears it up alittle.
I didn't know the best way to setup my hard drive when i did it so i just made a 40 gig partition which is my C: drive and where Win 2K is installed along with all my software. The second partition is about 3 gig and has nothing on it. i thought i would use this for the ghost images. Maybe I should format my hard drive and start over.

I'm using ghost from a boot floopy and it's not installed on my machine.
I try this at work today with a machine that I have to reimage and it has 4 partitions all of 2 gig and i was able to create an image of the C: drive and copy it to the E: drive. then I formated the C: drive and copyed the image file back to C: and it works.

Maybe i need a larger partition on my home machine to copy the image file to?

 

[ericd]

Sounds like reformatting may be a good idea. Here is how I have my partitions split

On a 40 GB Maxtor I have:

C: 5 GB NTFS partition where I have Win2K installed

D: 25GB Fat32 partition where I install all of my programs (this way I don't lose all of my saved games etc. when I reload the ghost image of C:

E: a whatever is left (8.7 GB I think) Fat32 partition with all of my pictures, internet favorites, e-mail, etc... (I have all of my MP3's on my server)


If you wanted to you could do it with only 2 partitions or you could do it with more if you wanted to. I have done other things so that when I reload the ghost image I loose virtually nothing. Here are some of the things that I have done:

1. I have the My Documents folder pointing to my e: drive so that all that stuff stays off the C: partition

2. I have my Outlook Express store folder pointed to E:\E-mail so that it also survives the rebuild

3. I have my IE Favorites pointing to E:\Favorites

4. I have the Windows Address Book pointing to E:\Address Book so that it too survives.

Theoretically the only thing that doesn't survive a reload from a ghost file is anything in the registry. What I do is whenever I want to load a new program, I load the ghost image from the file so that it is clean again, install the new program, and then redo the Ghost image to reflect the new program.

If you have any questions about how to do any of these things let me know and I will give instructions for any or all of them.

Eric

 

[G35]

Thanks Ericd,

I'm really greatful for all the help.
I also have a server so my Documents, mail and anything else I need to save is stored there.
I will think about maybe creating 2 partitions and just take frequent images and save to the other partition. Guess this is the easiest since I already have my OS and programs on the same drive.

Maybe I can firgure out how to create a boot disk that will attach to my network and then I will be able to save the image files to the server and not have to worry about all this.

Thanks,
Brad




<< Sounds like reformatting may be a good idea. Here is how I have my partitions split

On a 40 GB Maxtor I have:

C: 5 GB NTFS partition where I have Win2K installed

D: 25GB Fat32 partition where I install all of my programs (this way I don't lose all of my saved games etc. when I reload the ghost image of C:

E: a whatever is left (8.7 GB I think) Fat32 partition with all of my pictures, internet favorites, e-mail, etc... (I have all of my MP3's on my server)


If you wanted to you could do it with only 2 partitions or you could do it with more if you wanted to. I have done other things so that when I reload the ghost image I loose virtually nothing. Here are some of the things that I have done:

1. I have the My Documents folder pointing to my e: drive so that all that stuff stays off the C: partition

2. I have my Outlook Express store folder pointed to E:\E-mail so that it also survives the rebuild

3. I have my IE Favorites pointing to E:\Favorites

4. I have the Windows Address Book pointing to E:\Address Book so that it too survives.

Theoretically the only thing that doesn't survive a reload from a ghost file is anything in the registry. What I do is whenever I want to load a new program, I load the ghost image from the file so that it is clean again, install the new program, and then redo the Ghost image to reflect the new program.

If you have any questions about how to do any of these things let me know and I will give instructions for any or all of them.

Eric >>

 

[ericd]

The only problem that I see with that is that you will be ghosting save game files, settings files etc. that change every day so no matter how often you ghost you will lose some stuff. The other problem that I see is the fact that I see this as a way of being able to revert to a pretty clean load of your OS without having to rebuild completly. But I guess that's my purposes and yours are different.

Eric