Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
On the issue of dinosaurs, they did not co-exist with humans, and there were several millennia between the extinction of dinosaurs and the first man.
Talk about an understatement. Several, 65,000, what's the difference? Personally, I would've gone with "handful."
Originally posted by: Arkitech
At face value it would seem that something like a global flood would be ludicrous, but if you do a little research into the event there are some facts that should be considered. For example if the global flood was simply a myth, would the bible include accurate details as to what kind of dimensions and materials the ark should be built with (Genesis 7:14-16)? Also if the flood account was just a fable, it would be unlikely that other bible writers (Peter) and Jesus himself would refer back to that account.
2 Peter 3:6 - and by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was deluged with water
Matthew 24:37-39 - For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
Since I know not everyone here believes the bible to be true I won't use it as my only reference source. But its a well known fact that ocean and sea levels would rise significantly if the glaciers and other forms of ice found in the mountains, Anarctica (sp?) and other areas would begin to melt. Then there has been evidence of animals who were encased in ice with food remains still in their mouths and stomachs. Not to mention all over the earth there have been traces of sediment and minerals found in fossilized states that would normally only exist in large bodies of water. So there is lots of evidence that would support the notion that a globalized flood did take place. If anyone is interested I could look up specific sources to support this.
H.G. Wells' classic text "The War of the Worlds" contains precise descriptions of invading Martians. But just because he was precise in his description, it does not objectively prove that the Earth was invaded by aliens. You can't possibly make the argument that because someone comes up with a very precise description of something, it makes it real. Hell, I'll draw you up plans right now for an invisible flying submersible the size of Borneo powered by Colin Farrell's sweat. But no matter how precise my description, it doesn't mean such a craft exists.
But regardless of "The War of the Worlds" being no more than a story, widespread panic gripped people who heard the story read on the radio for the first time. They thought it was real. People will still talk about the fear they felt upon hearing that the world had been invaded by aliens. A powerful story captures people's imagination and transforms the imaginary into the real. Is it so difficult to believe that this is not simply a 20th Century phenomenon, but has been happening througout human history? American Indian tribes have told stories for centuries about how the trickster coyote created men. These stories are common across different tribes with different languages, and existed prior to Christianity; why do you reject this story of creation but not the one presented in the Bible? If all you're basing your belief on is repetition of stories, surely the American Indian ones have been repeated as often.
As for your claims about fossils, that's just false. Tectonic plate shifting has caused our planet to go from a single, centralized land mass (Pangaea) to a series of separate continents. Over time, certain areas that were underwater have been pushed out as plates move over each other (the same process that created the Himalayas); others have sunk into the sea. The fossil record does not support a theory of a catastrophic flood happening once and depositing bones everywhere. That's not even how fossilization works...
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