How can a peace loving Christian NOT support gun control?

[poohbear]

Hello, im really curious how some Christians can actually support people owning guns. The 2 concepts seem so fundamentally opposed to each other since Christian thinking is very much opposed to violence (eg turn your other cheek), yet some American Christians argue so fervently in support of the right to own guns? When they speak of Jesus its all about love and compassion, yet when they speak of guns they turn into a completly different person?? How is this thinking reconciled in their minds?

Just curious cause i'm taken aback by how people i thought were very peaceful turn militant when they speak of gun control.

 

[LunarRay]

Hello, im really curious how some Christians can actually support people owning guns. The 2 concepts seem so fundamentally opposed to each other since Christian thinking is very much opposed to violence (eg turn your other cheek), yet some American Christians argue so fervently in support of the right to own guns? When they speak of Jesus its all about love and compassion, yet when they speak of guns they turn into a completly different person?? How is this thinking reconciled in their minds?

Just curious cause i'm taken aback by how people i thought were very peaceful turn militant when they speak of gun control.

I'm a Christian and am pretty sure I can decide about my own gun ownership but don't see what right I have to decide about yours.
IF it is legal to own a gun, then if you want to you should be able to!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A peace loving anyone would support responsibility, not taking things from you. Most people don't support drunk driving but don't support another prohibition either.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hello LR!

 

[LunarRay]

Hello LR!

Hi there Administrator Rider...
I rather preferred WinstonSmith... hehehehe

I guess I don't know to what Hayabusa Rider might allude to.. but think you answered that before... a bus... a rider... sorta fits, I guess :+)

 

[OCGuy]

2/10 troll

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hey it's guns and religion. It's a twofer!

 

[JEDIYoda]

This issue has nothing to do with somebodys religious beliefs....or what YOu percieve to be their beliefs.

This has to do with a right to defend yourself using weapons such as Guns.

BTW-- nice troll thread!!

 

[Colt45]

Could be related to the fact that most "christians" are very unlike Christ...

 

[MikeMike]

so they can use the guns to shoot the queers and the abortion loving liberals!!!

 

[LunarRay]

This issue has nothing to do with somebodys religious beliefs....or what YOu percieve to be their beliefs.

This has to do with a right to defend yourself using weapons such as Guns.

BTW-- nice troll thread!!

Seems to me to be the conflict between how Christ exists... here on Planet Earth in Cesar's Palace or in Heaven.

What goes on here on Earth seems to be regulated by the government of the people among whom are Christians. IF Christians support the rights of others, it seems to me to be consistent with the will of God... Render unto Cesar... and if they seek to deny what ought to be a right of others even if they do/don't have that right yet they violate that mandate.

Gun ownership is enjoyed for many reasons among them is Self Defense, I submit.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

You see how quickly you reach for your piece when someone's trying to pin your ass to a wooden cross.

 

[poohbear]

im not trolling anything, its shocking to me, and i want to see what people say in defense to this.

Im not American, Christians in America are a very unique breed it seems. i was thought very differently about Christianity than what is seemingly a militant christianity. Maybe im gonna clash w/ American Christians about this, but how can anyone say its "2 different things". Christianity is a way of life, guns/violence would constitute a HUGE part of life if we're debating such an issue, so i dont see how anyone can separate the two. I dont recall christ saying "reach for your sword when someone slaps you on the face".

 

[RY62]

Hello, im really curious how some Christians can actually support people owning guns. The 2 concepts seem so fundamentally opposed to each other since Christian thinking is very much opposed to violence (eg turn your other cheek), yet some American Christians argue so fervently in support of the right to own guns? When they speak of Jesus its all about love and compassion, yet when they speak of guns they turn into a completly different person?? How is this thinking reconciled in their minds?

Just curious cause i'm taken aback by how people i thought were very peaceful turn militant when they speak of gun control.

Troll,

The vast majority of Christian gun owners never commit acts of violence with their guns and do not equate guns with violence.

 

[n yusef]

If Christianity were a singular ideology with well-defined values, one could argue that certain beliefs are inconsistent with Christianity. However, Christianity isn't a singular ideology with well-defined values. One can be a Christian and believe in nearly anything. It merely depends on which passages one cites, and which passages one disregards.

With specific regard to violence: as recent as 150 years ago, the Bible was simultaneously used to support nonviolent abolitionism, violent anti-slavery rebellions, and slavery itself.

 

[LunarRay]

You see how quickly you reach for your piece when someone's trying to pin your ass to a wooden cross.

Jesus had an entire army of ninja angels at his command if he needed protection... or he could have turned the wood and metal into a nice BAR and mowed em down... but no.. he had to go and die for us and thus leave us with out evidence of his existence... he could of at least carved his initials in a tree... you know... JC loves MM... like that or something.

 

[kia75]

Except Jesus did say something similiar.

He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

Luke 22:35-36

Doesn't that mean Christians every should stock up on Guns? Or did Jesus mean literal swords? Should Christians take up fencing lessons?

 

[Malak]

Hello, im really curious how some Christians can actually support people owning guns. The 2 concepts seem so fundamentally opposed to each other since Christian thinking is very much opposed to violence (eg turn your other cheek), yet some American Christians argue so fervently in support of the right to own guns? When they speak of Jesus its all about love and compassion, yet when they speak of guns they turn into a completly different person?? How is this thinking reconciled in their minds?

Just curious cause i'm taken aback by how people i thought were very peaceful turn militant when they speak of gun control.

I for one am against guns entirely. I too question why anyone who claims to be a Christian would support owning guns.

 

[JEDIYoda]

im not trolling anything, its shocking to me, and i want to see what people say in defense to this.

Im not American, Christians in America are a very unique breed it seems. i was thought very differently about Christianity than what is seemingly a militant christianity. Maybe im gonna clash w/ American Christians about this, but how can anyone say its "2 different things". Christianity is a way of life, guns/violence would constitute a HUGE part of life if we're debating such an issue, so i dont see how anyone can separate the two. I dont recall christ saying "reach for your sword when someone slaps you on the face".

here is the line i like the most---- im not trolling anything......yeah right...rofl!!!

 

[Adrenaline]

Hello, im really curious how some Christians can actually support people owning guns. The 2 concepts seem so fundamentally opposed to each other since Christian thinking is very much opposed to violence (eg turn your other cheek), yet some American Christians argue so fervently in support of the right to own guns? When they speak of Jesus its all about love and compassion, yet when they speak of guns they turn into a completly different person?? How is this thinking reconciled in their minds?

Just curious cause i'm taken aback by how people i thought were very peaceful turn militant when they speak of gun control.

I will throw something out there for you with having a no gun law:

You are married with a child (assume girl) and someone (a male) breaks into your house (breaks the law) with a gun (breaks the law) and rapes your daughter (breaks the law) right in front of you.

Do you pray for this person (you being a Christian as a good person not owning an illegal gun) or do you wish you had the means to actually protect your family (having a gun due to a legal process)?

Your concept of gun ownership is different than this person. Just because you live your life one way and make that decision does not mean everyone else will. Barring gun ownership in any country is a really bad idea. Criminals NEVER follow laws.

Personally, I do not own a gun nor have I ever shot one. This may change next year though.

 

[Colt45]

You are married with a child (assume girl) and someone (a male) breaks into your house (breaks the law) with a gun (breaks the law) and rapes your daughter (breaks the law) right in front of you.

Do you pray for this person (you being a Christian as a good person not owning an illegal gun) or do you wish you had the means to actually protect your family (having a gun due to a legal process)?

Christ would turn the other cheek and forgive the man.

 

[StageLeft]

I think your overall argument does have some merit. I've asked before how Christians can reconcile with being pro-death penalty. You won't get any meaningful answer on AT, though, unless somebody pops in a post impervious to the noise (which most of this thread is).

 

[PrinceofWands]

It's simple really...MOST people are very poor 'Christians'. I would argue it's especially true of Americans, who are grown to hate, to segregate, to be violent, to be greedy, etc.

Most people who claim to be Christians really aren't...or are in name only.

That should more or less solve your dilemma.

 

[Mursilis]

It's simple really...MOST people are very poor 'Christians'. I would argue it's especially true of Americans, who are grown to hate, to segregate, to be violent, to be greedy, etc.

Most people who claim to be Christians really aren't...or are in name only.

That should more or less solve your dilemma.

What a troll post!

 

[Triumph]

Hello, im really curious how some Christians can actually support people owning guns. The 2 concepts seem so fundamentally opposed to each other since Christian thinking is very much opposed to violence (eg turn your other cheek), yet some American Christians argue so fervently in support of the right to own guns? When they speak of Jesus its all about love and compassion, yet when they speak of guns they turn into a completly different person?? How is this thinking reconciled in their minds?

Just curious cause i'm taken aback by how people i thought were very peaceful turn militant when they speak of gun control.

Your supposition is that guns are bad and evil, and therefore not in line with Christian beliefs. Since this supposition is wrong, your entire post is a failure.

/end of thread.