How badly did my mom get ripped off: A Big Screen TV Thread

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ScottyB
I would say she got ripped because it is a projection tv. I never understood why someone would buy a projection tv. You always have to sit right in front of them and have the room extremely dark.

I have windows in my livingroom, bedroom, and familyroom and the RP TVs (two Sonys and one Hitachi) looks fine. I just have to close the drapes a bit... not even all the way. But then, I had to close the drapes for my direct view TVs as well because of glare.

Most newer RP TVs have great side to side viewing angles. Up and down is still a problem, but then, I don't lay on the floor right in front of it, or stand up right in front of them either...so that's not a problem.

All in all, RP CRT and DLP TVs are the best way to go if you want a large screen experience.

Everyone I have seen at peoples' houses and at stores have looked like crap to me from any angle, but that is just my opinion and it ultimately lies on the purchaser's shoulders to buy it or not. I will never buy one though.

You obviously haven't looked at newer, higher end ones. Like I said, up and down is critical, and the TVs are made to be viewed at a seated level. But side to side on the better ones looks great now.

I was just in Circuit City and Best Buy yesterday looking at some, but like I said it is just my opinion.

And you're judging them from an angle that is too high. BB and CC all have their TVs too low for most people. As I said, height is critical, but side to side is not on higher end TVs.

They had a room set up a best buy with leather chairs and three projections set up at the proper viewing level.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: DAWeinG
Thanks for the replies guys! Also can anyone tell me if I should get a progressive scan dvd player? What's the difference?

Yes. Progressive scan sends a 480P signal to the TV. And the line doublers on DVD players are usually better than the ones they have on TVs.

Apparently Panasonic is making some really good, low priced progressive DVD players. I have Sonys because they make the only decent 300+ disk progressive DVD changer under $1000.

300 disk!?! Krikey! What is it...like a DVD jukebox?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ScottyB
I would say she got ripped because it is a projection tv. I never understood why someone would buy a projection tv. You always have to sit right in front of them and have the room extremely dark.

I have windows in my livingroom, bedroom, and familyroom and the RP TVs (two Sonys and one Hitachi) looks fine. I just have to close the drapes a bit... not even all the way. But then, I had to close the drapes for my direct view TVs as well because of glare.

Most newer RP TVs have great side to side viewing angles. Up and down is still a problem, but then, I don't lay on the floor right in front of it, or stand up right in front of them either...so that's not a problem.

All in all, RP CRT and DLP TVs are the best way to go if you want a large screen experience.

Everyone I have seen at peoples' houses and at stores have looked like crap to me from any angle, but that is just my opinion and it ultimately lies on the purchaser's shoulders to buy it or not. I will never buy one though.

You obviously haven't looked at newer, higher end ones. Like I said, up and down is critical, and the TVs are made to be viewed at a seated level. But side to side on the better ones looks great now.

I was just in Circuit City and Best Buy yesterday looking at some, but like I said it is just my opinion.

And you're judging them from an angle that is too high. BB and CC all have their TVs too low for most people. As I said, height is critical, but side to side is not on higher end TVs.

They had a room set up a best buy with leather chairs and three projections set up at the proper viewing level.

Which three? As I said, not all are equal when it comes to even brightness in side viewing.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: DAWeinG
Thanks for the replies guys! Also can anyone tell me if I should get a progressive scan dvd player? What's the difference?

Yes. Progressive scan sends a 480P signal to the TV. And the line doublers on DVD players are usually better than the ones they have on TVs.

Apparently Panasonic is making some really good, low priced progressive DVD players. I have Sonys because they make the only decent 300+ disk progressive DVD changer under $1000.

300 disk!?! Krikey! What is it...like a DVD jukebox?

Yep. See it here.

It's nice because it doubles as a CD jukebox as well. And the picture quality is very nice. Not the best, but far from the worst and only HT nerds can tell the difference.

 

[NewSc2]

I, for one, can't see why somebody WOULDNT buy an RPTV. Once you take off the protective screen (see pic here), it's the best looking non-FP display out there. To me plasma is nice, but I think PQ is better on an RPTV, specifically because I can't see all those little pixels on an RPTV, but I can when I look at a plasma or CRT. LCD RPTV's are okay too, but the colors are badly muted on those (at least the ones I've seen)

RPTV's are cheap, look great, and once ISF calibrated look spectacular. You can't get anything larger than 40" anyways with other formats unless you're looking into the $3k+ range. Only qualm I have with the RPTV is when there's a completely black screen and say a red icon in the middle (game icons - Namco's comes to mind) there's a red haze around the letters that's nonexistent with other formats. This very very rarely ever happens in movies or TV programs though, so it's easily looked over.

 

[Ornery]

So, some of these guys think it could be had cheaper, eh? I'd say, PROVE IT! Then I'd take that proof to Sears for a price match! 😉

 

[lightpants]

Originally posted by: NewSc2
I, for one, can't see why somebody WOULDNT buy an RPTV. Once you take off the protective screen (see pic here), it's the best looking non-FP display out there. To me plasma is nice, but I think PQ is better on an RPTV, specifically because I can't see all those little pixels on an RPTV, but I can when I look at a plasma or CRT. LCD RPTV's are okay too, but the colors are badly muted on those (at least the ones I've seen)

RPTV's are cheap, look great, and once ISF calibrated look spectacular. You can't get anything larger than 40" anyways with other formats unless you're looking into the $3k+ range. Only qualm I have with the RPTV is when there's a completely black screen and say a red icon in the middle (game icons - Namco's comes to mind) there's a red haze around the letters that's nonexistent with other formats. This very very rarely ever happens in movies or TV programs though, so it's easily looked over.

Front projection is the way to go! There are a few new projectors out there that look awsome in the $1800 to $2500 range.
Jim

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: lightpants

Originally posted by: NewSc2
I, for one, can't see why somebody WOULDNT buy an RPTV. Once you take off the protective screen (see pic here), it's the best looking non-FP display out there. To me plasma is nice, but I think PQ is better on an RPTV, specifically because I can't see all those little pixels on an RPTV, but I can when I look at a plasma or CRT. LCD RPTV's are okay too, but the colors are badly muted on those (at least the ones I've seen)

RPTV's are cheap, look great, and once ISF calibrated look spectacular. You can't get anything larger than 40" anyways with other formats unless you're looking into the $3k+ range. Only qualm I have with the RPTV is when there's a completely black screen and say a red icon in the middle (game icons - Namco's comes to mind) there's a red haze around the letters that's nonexistent with other formats. This very very rarely ever happens in movies or TV programs though, so it's easily looked over.

Front projection is the way to go! There are a few new projectors out there that look awsome in the $1800 to $2500 range.
Jim

If I was going Front Projection...nothing less than a Runco would do. $1800-$2500 for FRONT projection? hmmm.....

But, to the original question, no, definitely not ripped off.

 

[arod]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: lightpants

Originally posted by: NewSc2
I, for one, can't see why somebody WOULDNT buy an RPTV. Once you take off the protective screen (see pic here), it's the best looking non-FP display out there. To me plasma is nice, but I think PQ is better on an RPTV, specifically because I can't see all those little pixels on an RPTV, but I can when I look at a plasma or CRT. LCD RPTV's are okay too, but the colors are badly muted on those (at least the ones I've seen)

RPTV's are cheap, look great, and once ISF calibrated look spectacular. You can't get anything larger than 40" anyways with other formats unless you're looking into the $3k+ range. Only qualm I have with the RPTV is when there's a completely black screen and say a red icon in the middle (game icons - Namco's comes to mind) there's a red haze around the letters that's nonexistent with other formats. This very very rarely ever happens in movies or TV programs though, so it's easily looked over.

Front projection is the way to go! There are a few new projectors out there that look awsome in the $1800 to $2500 range.
Jim

If I was going Front Projection...nothing less than a Runco would do. $1800-$2500 for FRONT projection? hmmm.....

But, to the original question, no, definitely not ripped off.

I got my projector for 1500... it gives a sweet picture and is even hd compadable which does look nice on my system. In my sig I have some screen caps but when you see the screen caps know that all the grain in the pictures is my old camera and not the actual picture on the screen. I think you would be suprised with the picture a measely $1500 projector can produce.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: lightpants

Originally posted by: NewSc2
I, for one, can't see why somebody WOULDNT buy an RPTV. Once you take off the protective screen (see pic here), it's the best looking non-FP display out there. To me plasma is nice, but I think PQ is better on an RPTV, specifically because I can't see all those little pixels on an RPTV, but I can when I look at a plasma or CRT. LCD RPTV's are okay too, but the colors are badly muted on those (at least the ones I've seen)

RPTV's are cheap, look great, and once ISF calibrated look spectacular. You can't get anything larger than 40" anyways with other formats unless you're looking into the $3k+ range. Only qualm I have with the RPTV is when there's a completely black screen and say a red icon in the middle (game icons - Namco's comes to mind) there's a red haze around the letters that's nonexistent with other formats. This very very rarely ever happens in movies or TV programs though, so it's easily looked over.

Front projection is the way to go! There are a few new projectors out there that look awsome in the $1800 to $2500 range.
Jim

FP is very nice, but only in a room you can get 100% (or nearly so) dark. They are useless in a living room or family room in which you'd like to watch TV during the day and not have WWII era blackout curtains on all the windows. I have skylights in many of the common areas of my house along with undraped upper windows. A FPTV would be utterly useless to me in those rooms during the day

FPs are best for basement dedicated home theaters. In that environment, they cannot be touched when it comes to picture quality, I agree.