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I've said it before (think I said it before Turmp even, but not sure), I won't ever vote Republican again unless Abraham Lincoln literally rises from the grave and physically throws every modern Republican out of the party. At this point it might require more than that.

Doesn't necessarily mean I'll vote Democrat, especially further in the future.

Some local (not sure if its state or more local) guy had like 4 items on his sign. I think it was pretty generic "health, education, family, and helping economic growth of small businesses", then I saw "supports Turmp" and was happy that he made it that easy to make sure not to vote for him.

Its a bit of a shame that a recall for Ducey won't be on the ballot. I thought he sucked before. I think how he handled the pandemic is almost outright criminal. Sadly, I could absolutely buy that Ducy was just legit stupid and so believed Turmp.
 
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BoomerD

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That's funny. I don't know if dems are sane where you are but they have totally lost their shit in WA state.

The Dems in WA, at least in western WA (Seattle area) seem to be trying to" out lib" San Fransissy.
 

Ajay

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At the state and local level, I also tend to vote for the person, not the party. Sadly, some nutters always take enough seats on the school board to totally screw shit up. Sometime it's just structural things. I voted for a republican governor in the last election because the house and senate were stuck in endless squabbles and not doing their job. I thought Sununu had the political capital to get things moving again. He did and at least the state is getting things done again. We (NH) are a purple state, so going for the Trump agenda wasn't an option for him. I voted for democratic governors for most of the since Shaheen. Hassan wasn't great, IMO, and that led to the problems in the legislature (plus typical party infighting).
 

repoman0

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The only decent republican left in the country is Charlie Baker, and he’s the last of a totally dead breed. I’d vote against him just for continuing to call himself a republican at this point but he’s not on the ballot this year.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I vote a straight Democrat ticket. The GOP's refusal to give Garland a vote in 2016 has forever poisoned the party to me and I will never cast a vote for a Republican in any office ever so long as I live.
 

Perknose

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When Dubya the Air National Guard shirker won, at least in part by describing, Kerry, an actual combat veteran, as a coward, which I never thought would happen, I changed my registration from Independent to Democrat to remind myself that battle lines had been drawn.

From Snopes:

Under [Navy Admiral Elmo] Zumwalt’s command, swift boats would aggressively engage the enemy. Zumwalt, who died in 2000, calculated in his autobiography that these men under his command had a 75 percent chance of being killed or wounded during a typical year.

I have no illusions about the Democratic Party in general. But the Republicans are now a party of grifters and liars, bigots and crazies whom my life-long Republicans parents would simply not recognize.

My parents are dead. So is the Republican Party, as anything resembling a respectable institution.

Trump must go, and then be prosecuted and imprisioned. McConnell is Trump's Dick Cheney. He is a truly loathsome human being, bereft of ethics or morals.

If the Dems don't prevail in the Senate and McConnell is still the Majority Leader, woe unto our country.

I even told instructed my imaginary exploratory committee to cease all preparations for the Perknose 2020 campaign so as to not siphon votes (well my vote anyway) from Biden's total.

And I'm participating in two phone banks, one by the EnvironmentalVoterProject and the other PAStandsup, trying to reach those whose thoughts of what to have for dinner are crowding out any worries about our Republic.

To the ramparts, revolutionaries! Ready, Aim, Dial! :cool:
 
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blackangst1

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I havent voted a straight party line in local/state elections ever. I plan on doing the same this year.
 

nickqt

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I haven't seen it mentioned yet, so I'll mention it and give a link.

Ballotpedia is a website where you can put in your address and see all the candidates and issues on your specific upcoming ballots.

Makes it easier to prepare for the egregiously worded ballot measures so you know what they are actually implementing. Some of those ballot measures have a reading level of Masters Degree and higher.

 
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I haven't missed a vote since the mid-70's. I research carefully including school board positions and especially Judges. I vote Republican with a few votes going to Libertarians. No votes going to the Democrat/fascist Party.
 
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nickqt

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I haven't missed a vote since the mid-70's. I research carefully including school board positions and especially Judges. I vote Republican with a few votes going to Libertarians. No votes going to the Democrat/fascist Party.
You're a joke, and so are your posts.

Funny that a person who supports murdering children with grenades calls a liberal party the fascist party.

And by funny, again, I'm just pointing out that you're a fucking joke.

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Perknose
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ch33zw1z

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You're a joke, and so are your posts.

Funny that a person who supports murdering children with grenades calls a liberal party the fascist party.

And by funny, again, I'm just pointing out that you're a fucking joke.

The projectors are on maximum, as usual, lol
 
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Ajay

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When Dubya the Air National Guard shirker won, at least in part by describing, Kerry, an actual combat veteran, as a coward, which I never thought would happen, I changed my registration from Independent to Democrat to remind myself that battle lines had been drawn.

Thank you for recounting that in summary. I didn't look at the issue in those terms at the time - that battle lines had truly been drawn. I was a republican, but I thought Wubya was a joke and couldn't understand how he one the nomination. Sadly, being republican, I duly voted for the moron anyway.


I have no illusions about the Democratic Party in general. But the Republicans are now a party of grifters and liars, bigots and crazies whom my life-long Republicans parents would simply not recognize.
Thanks for that too. Some on this forum seem to put the democratic party on a pedestal. Our leadership are only human, and are politicians at that. While demonstrably offering better solutions to our current problems than the opposition, they are subject to too many external pressures (money and power) to hold onto a 'the people come first' policy in all matters (IMHO).
 

theeedude

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Straight party line Democrat. You can no longer be a decent person and a Republican in my opinion. I wouldn't vote a Republican for a dog catcher.
 
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You're a joke, and so are your posts.

Funny that a person who supports murdering children with grenades calls a liberal party the fascist party.

And by funny, again, I'm just pointing out that you're a fucking joke.
You are a liar. Please post where and when i have ever advocated the murdering of children. I'll wait. Looks like yet another win for me.
 
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fskimospy

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I’m in the center of Brooklyn so it doesn’t much matter. That being said as someone who used to vote for Republicans now and then as far as I’m concerned if a candidate has not repudiated Trump then that’s automatically disqualifying.

Sure, I’d like to deregulate housing but if someone’s both for upzoning and kleptocratic fascism I guess I’ll have to skip the upzoning this year.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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I'll go Democrat except when Cuomo runs again and if he wins the Dem nomination, which he will. At that point I'll probably look at a Republican and depending on who is running go with that person or sit the election out. I'll vote for Cuomo the day I'd vote for Trump, which is never.
 

fskimospy

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I'll go Democrat except when Cuomo runs again and if he wins the Dem nomination, which he will. At that point I'll probably look at a Republican and depending on who is running go with that person or sit the election out. I'll vote for Cuomo the day I'd vote for Trump, which is never.
Yes, if a non-Trumpy Republican is Cuomo’s opponent I will vote for them as well.
 
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When Dubya the Air National Guard shirker won, at least in part by describing, Kerry, an actual combat veteran, as a coward, which I never thought would happen, I changed my registration from Independent to Democrat to remind myself that battle lines had been drawn.

From Snopes:



I have no illusions about the Democratic Party in general. But the Republicans are now a party of grifters and liars, bigots and crazies whom my life-long Republicans parents would simply not recognize.

My parents are dead. So is the Republican Party, as anything resembling a respectable institution.

Trump must go, and then be prosecuted and imprisioned. McConnell is Trump's Dick Cheney. He is a truly loathsome human being, bereft of ethics or morals.

If the Dems don't prevail in the Senate and McConnell is still the Majority Leader, woe unto our country.

I even told instructed my imaginary exploratory committee to cease all preparations for the Perknose 2020 campaign so as to not siphon votes (well my vote anyway) from Biden's total.

And I'm participating in two phone banks, one by the EnvironmentalVoterProject and the other PAStandsup, trying to reach those whose thoughts of what to have for dinner are crowding out any worries about our Republic.

To the ramparts, revolutionaries! Ready, Aim, Dial! :cool:

Sorry to break this to you, but Republicans have been this way far longer. Long enough that your parents almost absolutely had to know they were voting for such people. They've been openly horrible from at least Reagan. Frankly I think Eisenhower was the last time you could pretend that Republicans weren't wannabe fascist pieces of shit, and even then there was quite a bit of evidence showing who they were (Eisenhower was really more of an outlier to much of that seeing as he was basically the only one talking about the dangers of it, and I'm not even sure how much credit he should be given as he was good friends with Nixon and had to have known what a shady dick he was; and Eisenhower not only knew, but signed off on a bunch of horribly fucking shitty policies himself, redlining and Operation beautiful ray of sunshine come to mind).

Republican Party has been dead for 50-70 years. What you're really noticing is that Republicans and Democrats used to be more unified in their behavior. Republicans really haven't changed much in the past 40 years. But Democrats finally started to, unfortunately it seems like only because Americans chose to only hold Democrats responsible for bad behavior.

What has changed is that white Americans are finally starting to wake up to the horrors they've enabled.
 
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You're a joke, and so are your posts.

Funny that a person who supports murdering children with grenades calls a liberal party the fascist party.

And by funny, again, I'm just pointing out that you're a fucking joke.

Posters may no longer post this debunked claim.

Perknose
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Wow, the mods are gonna fact check. I would certainly like to see this "debunking" as I must have missed where they actually did that?

Straight party line Democrat. You can no longer be a decent person and a Republican in my opinion. I wouldn't vote a Republican for a dog catcher.

Well obviously, as that's how you get BTK.
 

Perknose

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Sorry to break this to you, but Republicans have been this way far longer. Long enough that your parents almost absolutely had to know they were voting for such people.
My Mother died before Reagan and my Father personally detested Nixon with a passion, though I would bet money he didn't vote for McGovern but may have voted for Nixon anyway versus Humphrey.

My parents were far from progressives though they weren't bigots, in word or deed. They were not particularly political at all, they just liked "less taxes." I know my Mother broke ranks and voted for Kennedy because she was Catholic. Her brother had been denied a teaching job anywhere in Delaware County, Pa. in the 1930s specifically and openly because he was Catholic. She . . . probably . . . got my Dad to vote for him too because, as I said, he thought Nixon was a low life dirt bag.

My Mom's brother, my Uncle Ed, was wounded mutlitple times in the Italian campaign under Patton, whom he hated. I only know this because one summer we were all sitting on his front porch watching the black and white TV show Patton riding in a jeep "leading" his troops into a liberated Italian town and Uncle Ed, never one to raise his voice, EXPLODED saying they'd taken the town two days before and that whole thing was staged.

After the war, he ended up working for the ATF. Back then, that agency had zero public notoriety so I thought he was just a paper pusher. Retroactively, I'm not so sure.
 

Homerboy

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Just filled out my ballot today for WI. Democrat down the whole thing. Now to be fair, a lot of positions were D only (other than write ins)
Honestly, even if the Democrat's platform was "... and we also believe anyone named "Homerboy" should be drawn and quartered", I'd still probably vote D. #fuckthegop