How are undercover cop cars legal?

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: spacejamz

what is the point of asking an officer for his badge? can anyone here tell a fake badge from a real one? or know that the cop's id is real or not???

Credentials are more than just a badge. His badge should have his officer number (My Dad was Unit 530 and my Grandfather, I believe, was Unit 510) on it. Additionally, on the back there should be certifications and a form of ID (No picture but information)-- this should then match up to the Name Plate on his front pocket.

To the poster a few posts up, it is perfectly legal to slow down and maintain speed for a short distance to a more well lit area with your flashers on when asked to pull over. Calling 911 would be a good option as well if you are able to do that.

The best thing to do if you are very worried, is to call (If you have it) the non-emergency number (If you don't have it, 911) and verify that an officer is behind you and no one else.

-Kevin

Different badges have different things on them. Mine does not contain certifications or a form of id, though it does have my number. We have a separate photo id given to us as well.

 

[fLum0x]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I dont think you should be able to be pulled over by a car that does not have police markings on it. How do I know if its a cop or not? Anyone with a caprice and some lights in the grill can just go around pullin people over and doing whatever to them.

Even though i probably dont have the balls to do it, if an unmarked cop tries to pull me over on the highway I will drive all the way to the next rest stop or exit and pull into a crowded place before stopping.

hmm?

I think indiana law allows you to drive 5 miles without being considered "resisting arrest". As long as you can prove that you wanted to be with people around, you are golden.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: fLum0x

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I dont think you should be able to be pulled over by a car that does not have police markings on it. How do I know if its a cop or not? Anyone with a caprice and some lights in the grill can just go around pullin people over and doing whatever to them.

Even though i probably dont have the balls to do it, if an unmarked cop tries to pull me over on the highway I will drive all the way to the next rest stop or exit and pull into a crowded place before stopping.

hmm?

I think indiana law allows you to drive 5 miles without being considered "resisting arrest". As long as you can prove that you wanted to be with people around, you are golden.

i think you are just pulling that out of your ass.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Second off-- It is absolutely illegal to have any lights other than standard headlight colors (And the ones with slight hues to them). Anything other than that is completely illegal while driving-- no matter what.

Not really true.

It is illegal to display blue light in any direction from a non-emergency vehicle and it is illegal to display red light from the front of a non-emergency vehicle. Other colors, such as green or yellow or orange are not regulated and are legal to display, though you may still get pulled over and hassled for using them.

ZV

It was my understanding that you were not allowed to display any other colored lights other than front facing lights while you were driving. When you are stopped and the car is not about to be in motion (ie: You would have to be parked, not at a stop light) you are then allowed to display the non regulated colors.

You can display the non-regulated colors when in motion, but those lights must be auxiliary to the regulated lights on the vehicle. That is, front turn signals must be amber (if the vehicle is a model year 1968 or newer, prior to 1968 white turn signals were legal in addition to amber), headlights must be white, fog lights may be either white or yellow, brake lights must be red, reverse lamps must be white, and rear turn signals may be either red or amber. Additional lighting can be other unregulated colors. (An example would be "clearance lights" on the top of pickup cabs or along the edges of trailers.)

There may be a regulation on lights of any color that flash restricting them to use for certain, specific reasons only, but I am not sure of this.

ZV

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BlackTigers91
When the officer comes to your window, tell him you would like a uniformed officer in a marked car on the scene.

yeap. also do not stop in a dark area that is not traveled much. use the cell phone and call 911 and tell them why though.

and the cop will give you another ticket for using your cell phone while driving. lose lose

There is no cop out there that is a big enough douche to do that though, is there?

Erm..this is ATOT...bad place to ask that lol.

are there? sure but considering you ahve records of calling 911, and the reasons for it i am confident it would get thrown out.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Second off-- It is absolutely illegal to have any lights other than standard headlight colors (And the ones with slight hues to them). Anything other than that is completely illegal while driving-- no matter what.

Not really true.

It is illegal to display blue light in any direction from a non-emergency vehicle and it is illegal to display red light from the front of a non-emergency vehicle. Other colors, such as green or yellow or orange are not regulated and are legal to display, though you may still get pulled over and hassled for using them.

ZV

It was my understanding that you were not allowed to display any other colored lights other than front facing lights while you were driving. When you are stopped and the car is not about to be in motion (ie: You would have to be parked, not at a stop light) you are then allowed to display the non regulated colors.

You can display the non-regulated colors when in motion, but those lights must be auxiliary to the regulated lights on the vehicle. That is, front turn signals must be amber (if the vehicle is a model year 1968 or newer, prior to 1968 white turn signals were legal in addition to amber), headlights must be white, fog lights may be either white or yellow, brake lights must be red, reverse lamps must be white, and rear turn signals may be either red or amber. Additional lighting can be other unregulated colors. (An example would be "clearance lights" on the top of pickup cabs or along the edges of trailers.)

There may be a regulation on lights of any color that flash restricting them to use for certain, specific reasons only, but I am not sure of this.

ZV

this is our Ontario law in reguards to this:

Intermittent red light restricted

(14) Subject to subsections (14.1) and (15), no person shall use a lamp, other than the vehicular hazard warning signal lamps commonly known as four way flashers, that produces intermittent flashes of red light. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 62 (14); 2007, c. 13, s. 17 (1).

Red and blue lights to the front restricted

(14.1) In addition to the lighting requirements in this Part, a police department vehicle may carry lamps that cast red and blue lights, but no other motor vehicle shall carry any lamp that casts red and blue lights to the front. 2007, c. 13, s. 17 (2).

Red light in front

(15) In addition to the lighting requirements in this Part, a vehicle described in subsection (15.1) may carry lamps that cast a red light only or such other colour of light that may, with the approval of the ministry, be designated by a by-law of the municipality in which the vehicle is operated, but no other motor vehicle shall carry any lamp that casts a red light to the front. 1998, c. 35, s. 103.

Same

(15.1) The following are vehicles to which subsection (15) applies:

1. An ambulance, fire department vehicle, police department vehicle, public utility emergency vehicle or school bus.

2. A ministry vehicle operated by an officer appointed for carrying out the provisions of this Act or the Public Vehicles Act, while the officer is in the course of his or her employment.

3. A vehicle while operated by a conservation officer, fishery officer, provincial park officer or mine rescue training officer, while the officer is in the course of his or her employment.

4. A vehicle while operated by a provincial officer designated under the Environmental Protection Act, the Nutrient Management Act, 2002, the Ontario Water Resources Act, or the Pesticides Act, while the officer is in the course of his or her employment.

5. A prescribed class or type of vehicle, driven by a prescribed class of persons or engaged in a prescribed activity or in prescribed conditions or circumstances. 1998, c. 35, s. 103; 2002, c. 4, s. 64; 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 19 (2); 2007, c. 13, s. 17 (3, 4).

Green flashing light restricted

(16) The following persons may carry on or in his or her vehicle and operate a lamp that produces intermittent flashes of green light:

1. A firefighter, within the meaning of subsection 1 (1) of the Fire Protection and Prevention Act, 1997, while proceeding to a fire or other emergency.

2. A prescribed class of volunteer medical responder, while driving a prescribed class or type of vehicle or engaging in a prescribed activity or in prescribed conditions or circumstances. 2007, c. 13, s. 17 (5).

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
I dont think you should be able to be pulled over by a car that does not have police markings on it. How do I know if its a cop or not? Anyone with a caprice and some lights in the grill can just go around pullin people over and doing whatever to them.

Even though i probably dont have the balls to do it, if an unmarked cop tries to pull me over on the highway I will drive all the way to the next rest stop or exit and pull into a crowded place before stopping.

hmm?

You are allowed to do that...make sure you wave or signal the cop to let him know you see him.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Edit: Also they are not TECHNICALLY Crown Victorias. The standard police cruiser is the "Police Interceptor". It does have Crown Vic styling; however, they have various upgrades to bring it to a police package (Larger Water pump for instance)

It's a Crown Vic with a Police Interceptor package on it. That is not the model designation.