How are those CR-V's?

[ViviTheMage]

Love my 05 Grand Cherokee 4.7L, but it's a bit overkill for what we use it for (towing 3-4 times a year + dog in trunk and when we foster, so sometimes 2 dogs).

I was thinking of selling it, and getting a CR-V? Seem to get better mileage, while keeping 4wd/trailer hitch, with some utilityness to it.

We live in the city, so the MPG burst will be helpful .. lately only getting 10-13 average.

How are they? How are the engines ...I have yet to test drive one.

... just thinking here.

EDIT :

let me add .. I drove a Daihatsu 1500CC when I was in Costa Rica ... some 700km during our 12 day trip...and thought the size was actually OK, I assume the CR-V is much bigger? At least in the trunk it is. The only issue I had with the Daihatsu was weak engine with 4 of us in the car + 2 bags (55kilo each) of luggage.

EDIT 2 :

Apparently the AWD system is a joke? We use this a lot, especially during winter/snowy months, or towing out of the lake.

 

[Demo24]

Are you looking at new or used? Sadly they don't really get great mileage for what they are, although it will be better than 10mpg. The problem is they are rather underpowered for the vehicle and so are quite slow. The new ones also seem to have lost any driving appeal as well. They are decently roomy inside though, probably as big as the Cherokee because the rear floor is fairly low. Also the 'awd' is effectively FWD 99% of the time, its a torque based transfer so you have to slip a lot for anything to go to the rear.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Bah, well that is worthless.

I think i'll wait for the Q5 hybrid, or cross my fingers a hybrid diesel comes out. I am in no rush, just saw one today, and remember what we drove in costa rica, and it seemed like a good thought.

 

[Demo24]

Bah, well that is worthless.

I think i'll wait for the Q5 hybrid, or cross my fingers a hybrid diesel comes out. I am in no rush, just saw one today, and remember what we drove in costa rica, and it seemed like a good thought.

Hybrid diesel, highly unlikely. A diesel variant I am 99% sure I saw a memo stating it (among other Audi models) would be arriving stateside within the next couple of years.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Hybrid diesel, highly unlikely. A diesel variant I am 99% sure I saw a memo stating it (among other Audi models) would be arriving stateside within the next couple of years.

3.0TDI? Getting 35+ MPG would be rock solid, and QUATTRO.

 

[DesiPower]

You can look at the cheaper Escapes, similar mileage and maybe a little bit better suited for towing and other stuff... its more of an SUV, CR-V is a car.

 

[Demo24]

3.0TDI? Getting 35+ MPG would be rock solid, and QUATTRO.

http://forums.fourtitude.com/entry....rrivals-of-A8-A6-and-Q5-TDI-in-Next-24-Months


There's also the VW Tourag which already has this engine and you can buy it now, although I don't know about AWD.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Damn, only 17/25 MPG with a 3.0TDI ... some weak numbers . I wonder if they'll do ANY better in the Q5....but I am not optimistic...granted :

That engine produces 225 hp and 406 lb-ft of torque and with the Q7's 5600 pounds to carry, delivers an 8.5-second 0-60 mph time and fuel economy figures of 17 mpg in city driving and 25 on the highway. Considering that all three new models are a thousand pounds lighter and more aerodynamic, expect highway figures in the thirties and 0-60 mph times that will remain competitive with most gas-powered competitors.

 

[ShawnD1]

Also the 'awd' is effectively FWD 99% of the time, its a torque based transfer so you have to slip a lot for anything to go to the rear.

True that. Video demonstrating how a very small percentage of power goes to the rear wheels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t09ExAUgtyE

Other than that, it's a pretty nice vehicle.

 

[DesiPower]

Damn, only 17/25 MPG with a 3.0TDI ... some weak numbers . I wonder if they'll do ANY better in the Q5....but I am not optimistic...granted :

well... if you are OK with that price range, you can look at Escape Hybrid too or even or even Lexus 400h, great milage!

 

[ViviTheMage]

True that. Video demonstrating how a very small percentage of power goes to the rear wheels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t09ExAUgtyE

Other than that, it's a pretty nice vehicle.

Embarrassing ...

 

[Demo24]

Damn, only 17/25 MPG with a 3.0TDI ... some weak numbers . I wonder if they'll do ANY better in the Q5....but I am not optimistic...granted :

It gets 30mpg in the Tourag, I would expect that or better in a smaller/lighter Q5. The Q7 is a pretty damn big vehicle, most of the gas variants can barely get 20 hwy.

 

[krunchykrome]

Are you looking at new or used? Sadly they don't really get great mileage for what they are, although it will be better than 10mpg. The problem is they are rather underpowered for the vehicle and so are quite slow. The new ones also seem to have lost any driving appeal as well. They are decently roomy inside though, probably as big as the Cherokee because the rear floor is fairly low. Also the 'awd' is effectively FWD 99% of the time, its a torque based transfer so you have to slip a lot for anything to go to the rear.

I've averaged 28mpg on a fully tank in my 2008 CRV AWD. I think that's pretty good for a small SUV with AWD.

 

[vshah]

True that. Video demonstrating how a very small percentage of power goes to the rear wheels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t09ExAUgtyE

Other than that, it's a pretty nice vehicle.

i dunno, i find it a bit odd that that video was made by a subaru dealership...not exactly impartial.

my family had a cr-v, and while it was nowhere as good as the land cruiser, i never experienced that sort of uselessness/no power to the rear wheels while fronts were spinning. it got me up snow covered hills etc. without too much worry.

it was a previous gen though, things may have changed.

 

[ViviTheMage]

It gets 30mpg in the Tourag, I would expect that or better in a smaller/lighter Q5. The Q7 is a pretty damn big vehicle, most of the gas variants can barely get 20 hwy.

Yeah, they said 1K lbs difference .... so maybe it could hit 35+

 

[Demo24]

I've averaged 28mpg on a fully tank in my 2008 CRV AWD. I think that's pretty good for a small SUV with AWD.

Fair enough, guess the new ones have improved a bit there. Still, if you compare it to a Forrester with fulltime AWD and more powerful, with 1 less gear, it gets effectively the same mileage.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Fair enough, guess the new ones have improved a bit there. Still, if you compare it to a Forrester with fulltime AWD and more powerful, with 1 less gear, it gets effectively the same mileage.

I wont touch a Forrester with a 5000 yard stick...rather hideous vehicles.

The Escape hybrid isn't so bad, but the numbers sitll aren't "there". If I have to deal with a hybrid, i'd want 50+ mpg...even in an SUV/midsize SUV.

 

[Demo24]

i dunno, i find it a bit odd that that video was made by a subaru dealership...not exactly impartial.

my family had a cr-v, and while it was nowhere as good as the land cruiser, i never experienced that sort of uselessness/no power to the rear wheels while fronts were spinning. it got me up snow covered hills etc. without too much worry.

it was a previous gen though, things may have changed.

My dad has a previous gen with a manual, and he's had good luck with it in snow as well. I'm not sure if it's because it runs fairly skinny tires and most of the weight is over the front, or if the rears are actually helping to a useful extent. It will spin the front tires quite a lot though, and when I was learning to drive I would frequently 'peel-out', so without having been outside the vehicle to watch it in the snow I couldn't say how accurate that video is.

 

[ShawnD1]

i dunno, i find it a bit odd that that video was made by a subaru dealership...not exactly impartial.

Of course it's biased. They're trying to tell you why you should buy this particular car. They show you the full time AWD system because that's Subaru's strongest point. Jeep would probably talk about manually enabled 4hi and 4lo. Chrysler has their "we make cars in detroit" thing. Giving selective information doesn't mean it's wrong

You'll notice that they selected very specific competitors. If you did that exact same test on a Jeep in 4lo, the Jeep would climb the hill easily. That's why they didn't test one.

 

[ballmode]

V6 Rav 4 can hold its own for what it is from what I hear. That sucker has like 260+ hp and gets near 28-30mpg highway

 

[LTC8K6]

Check out the new Jeep Compass? 22/28 with a 5 Speed and regular 4X4.

http://www.jeep.com/en/2011/compass/

 

[vshah]

mine was a manual without traction control as well. i've heard owners report that disabling the traction control ends up sending more power to the rear wheels (since the front wheels are allowed to spin more, applying more pressure to the hydraulic pump that actuates the transfer clutch)

 

[skyking]

Yeah, they said 1K lbs difference .... so maybe it could hit 35+

The weight does not make that much difference. Frontal area/parasite drag is the mileage killer.

 

[Jumpem]

The AWD system is terrible. Look at an Outback or Forester.

I get 30mpg in my Outback.