How are these specs? Any thoughts/Suggestions?

[Kristi2k]

Right now I have an Intel Core i7 4790k CPU @ 4GHz. ASRock board and 16GB RAM.

I use the computer for Adobe Photoshop, Bridge and some Premiere Pro (it suffers here). I have a huge cage with semi-loud fans (43Dba~) and want to have a much smaller case that is quieter. I don't really play games, if I do, they are old ones.

Here are the components:

• Lian LI TU 150 Case (Black)
• ASRock Z390 PHANTOM GAMING-ITX/AC
• Intel Core i9-9900KF Coffee Lake 8-Core, 16-Thread, 3.6 GHz
• Ballistix 32GB Sport LT Series DDR4 3000 MHz DR UDIMM 32GB
• CORSAIR SF Series SF600 600W 80 PLUS GOLD
• or - be quiet! SFX L Power 600W PSU
• Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G
• CORSAIR Hydro Series H75 2018 CW-9060035-WW, 120mm Radiator, 2 SP120 PWM Fans, High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
• be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 Air Cooler

I have a Geforce GTX 1060.

The be quiet cool, how can that use 250W?

 

[Markfw]

I can't seem to find benchmarks that include the new Ryzen 3000 series CPU's, but unless that software is ONLY single-threaded, and maybe even if it is, the Ryzen 3000 series not only will be faster, run cooler, take less power, but they are upgrade able. That z390 platform is dead, as in no new CPU's to go in it.

If its this software, then Ryzen kills it for the same price
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3405567/ryzen-3000-review-amds-12-core-ryzen-9-3900x.html?page=3

Although the 3900x comes with a cooler, you can add an AIO (230mm recommended) and keep it quieter.

 

[deustroop]

Well, that's only half the cpu story.

If one is able to wait, then one shouldn't buy an AMD 3000 chip now. It's lamed up somewhat and cannot reach the advertized boost speed. A bios fix is promised.
Tom's confirms the bad news, linked below. Specifically a purchaser considering options today should appreciate that presently only 5.6% of current owners were able to reach the advertised boost clocks for AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 3900X CPU. Tom's testing of AMD's new boost clock behavior also found that only one core on any given Ryzen 3000 CPU can hit the rated boost clock.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3000-turbo-boost-frequency-analysis,6253.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-frequency-bios-fix,40308.html

The OPs first choice, the Intel Core i9-9900KF , on an O/C can "boost" to 5GHz on all cores and on two cores without an OC.

 

[Markfw]

Well, that's only half the cpu story.

If one is able to wait, then one shouldn't buy an AMD 3000 chip now. It's lamed up somewhat and cannot reach the advertized boost speed. A bios fix is promised.
Tom's confirms the bad news, linked below. Specifically a purchaser considering options today should appreciate that presently only 5.6% of current owners were able to reach the advertised boost clocks for AMD's flagship Ryzen 9 3900X CPU. Tom's testing of AMD's new boost clock behavior also found that only one core on any given Ryzen 3000 CPU can hit the rated boost clock.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-3000-turbo-boost-frequency-analysis,6253.html

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-frequency-bios-fix,40308.html

The OPs first choice, the Intel Core i9-9900KF , on an O/C can "boost" to 5GHz on all cores and on two cores without an OC.

The the single core boost speed, and its only short by 25 mhz. Stop stretching the truth. And the 5 ghz on all core is only if you OC, and even then the 3900x can beat it at everything but gaming AT STOCK WITH THE 9900K OC'ed

 

[deustroop]

The the single core boost speed, and its only short by 25 mhz. Stop stretching the truth.

I'm simply quoting Tom if you bothered to read the links. Go argue with his editor.

 

[Markfw]

I'm simply quoting Tom if you bothered to read the links. Go argue with his editor.

I have read many links. Even on the article you linked it says
"We recorded up to a ~75 - 100MHz difference between the fastest and slowest cores, with only one core reaching the single-core boost frequency. "

So at least one core does rated speed, and all-core is not the same as single core boost, as they will be slower. Same with Intel.
So if you hit the bad core once in a while, it may be a little slower.

Debauers video says 25 mhz is the difference. Anyway, you are making a big deal of NOTHING.

 

[deustroop]

O REALLY ?

THEN WHY THE CAPITALS ?

lol

The worst thing Tom's found is that only one core on any given Ryzen 3000 CPU can hit the rated boost clock. To wit.,

"Our own investigation of AMD's new boost clock behavior also found that only one core on any given Ryzen 3000 CPU can hit the rated boost clock, which AMD confirmed."

In the case of the 3900x cpu that's ONE, out of how many ?

 

[VirtualLarry]

The worst thing Tom's found is that only one core on any given Ryzen 3000 CPU can hit the rated boost clock. To wit.,

"Our own investigation of AMD's new boost clock behavior also found that only one core on any given Ryzen 3000 CPU can hit the rated boost clock, which AMD confirmed."

In the case of the 3900x cpu that's ONE, out of how many ?

You do realize, that this is not new, Intel does the same sort of thing with "Turbo Boost 3.0" on their HEDT platform. There is a "Golden core" for single-thread turbo, with the other cores falling short.

And you are indeed making a mountain out of a molehill, as Der8auer's video showed basically a 25Mhz discrepancy with reaching the "max" boost clock.

Next thing you know, you'll be shouting from the rooftops that 24X DVD burners can't do that speed on just any disc brand, and that most 24" LCD monitors actually only measure 23.6".

LOL!!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

If one is able to wait, then one shouldn't buy an AMD 3000 chip now. It's lamed up somewhat

And this is just borderline trolling... "lamed up"?

You really want AMD to CRUSH Intel even more in productivity benchmarks? (Once they release the "fixed" firmware?)

Edit: That said, Intel has a more "mature" (read: old) platform, and systems-integration should go smoother. (Just don't bend any pins!)

 

[UsandThem]

This is turning into an AMD vs. Intel thread.

Leave your recommended builds and/or components,
and let the OP read some reviews and decide for themselves
what works best for their use.

AT Mod Usandthem

 

[Markfw]

This is turning into an AMD vs. Intel thread.

Leave your recommended builds and/or components,
and let the OP read some reviews and decide for themselves
what works best for their use.

AT Mod Usandthem

This one user is making a mountain out of a molehill.

That said, I am done with this thread, as the OP has not replied for any more advice anyway.

 

[Kristi2k]

I'm not opposed to the Ryzen 7 3700X, I've never owned AMD before, always turned off by their poor performance in the past.

I'd like to use the be quiet! products as much as possible for low to no noise. I'm having a difficult time finding a board that doesn't having heat problems in the ITX form factor.

 

[Markfw]

I'm not opposed to the Ryzen 7 3700X, I've never owned AMD before, always turned off by their poor performance in the past.

I'd like to use the be quiet! products as much as possible for low to no noise. I'm having a difficult time finding a board that doesn't having heat problems in the ITX form factor.

Whats wrong with this one ? its rated 4 out of 5 stars.....

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-fatal1ty-x470-gaming-itx-ac/p/N82E16813157837

And yes, the be quiet products are great. Now I see why you chose a 120mm AIO

 

[Kristi2k]

I'll read on that one some more, I was looking at this one for the PCIgen4: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168131...Phantom_Gaming-ITX/TB3-_-13-157-891-_-Product

 

[Markfw]

I'll read on that one some more, I was looking at this one for the PCIgen4: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157891?Description=X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3&cm_re=X570_Phantom_Gaming-ITX/TB3-_-13-157-891-_-Product

Just so you know, unless you need the speed of PCIE gen 4, and x470 board will do just fine. The extra speed is great, but in ITX, its a little tricky.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'll read on that one some more, I was looking at this one for the PCIgen4: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157891?Description=X570 Phantom Gaming-ITX/TB3&cm_re=X570_Phantom_Gaming-ITX/TB3-_-13-157-891-_-Product

I think that is the funky board which only accepts intel coolers, read up on what type of coolers can go on to that board.
Any reason why it has to be mini itx? I agree small machines are nice to look at but if it being tiny doesn't carry any value maybe a full sized board is a better choice and easier to cool plus run cooler.
I'm not so convinced smaller cases are more quiet.

 

[Kristi2k]

the bequiet! site says that their cooler that I linked fits. I'm looking at placing the case behind my 27" screen.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

the bequiet! site says that their cooler that I linked fits. I'm looking at placing the case behind my 27" screen.

Ah then small system totally makes sense.
I recently changed some old fans for Be Quiet silents wings, all 3 are 120mm fans.
They aren't quiet at full speed (I do not have a pwm motherboard that is current) however the full speed isn't that loud. Hard to describe sound, silent wings at full speed equal about the same noise as my old antec tri cool fans on medium. Overall I am pretty happy with the Be Quiet case fans.
No rattles or grinding sounds its all air moving sound.

 

[Flayed]

For non-gaming use I would pick the 3900x over 9900k. 12 cores vs 8 is a no brainer. However still none in stock where I live, so there's that.

 

[Flayed]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Best Buy)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H75 2018 64 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian Li PC-TU100 Mini ITX Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($129.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $1333.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-04 06:46 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker doesn't list the Lian LI TU 150 Case (Black) yet so I used the TU100 as a placeholder.

 

[Kristi2k]

I'm researching AMD but appreciate the suggestions. It seems whenever I use AMD systems, they run much slower than the Intel CPU's. They were not Ryzen CPUs though.

This board looks nice, but has many DOA's: GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI AMD Ryzen 3000 PCIe 4.0 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.2 AMD X570 Mini-ITX Motherboard
I'm considering this board as an option but

 

[Markfw]

I'm researching AMD but appreciate the suggestions. It seems whenever I use AMD systems, they run much slower than the Intel CPU's. They were not Ryzen CPUs though.

This board looks nice, but has many DOA's: GIGABYTE X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI AMD Ryzen 3000 PCIe 4.0 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.2 AMD X570 Mini-ITX Motherboard
I'm considering this board as an option but

I like my ASUS x570 tuf gaming (something like that).

And yes, before Ryzen, AMD was much slower than Intel, except now the tides have changes. There is only one Intel CPU that makes sense, and only if you are an avid gamer, the 9900k. Enen then the AMD CPU's are within like 2-5%. But in productivity, no comparison, AMD wins. Bang/buck AMD wins. Heat output and value, AMD wins.

 

[Kyron71]

For the OP
You want a small and quiet PC?

Is this small and quiet enough?

 

[Kyron71]

High Style

 

[Kyron71]

If you must have a massive huge micro ATX