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How are the Political Ads

CaptnKirk

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Here in Fort Worth, the ONLY adds I have seen are those for the Governorship of Texas.
Acctually all of the candidates are playing pretty clean, I haven't yet seen a mud-slinging attack add by anyone.

Rick Perry has stayed clean (and slick)
Chris Bell has offered solutions (One of which is that Kinky Friedman should quit)
Carole 'Granny' Strayhorn promises to breast feed everyone
Kinky Freidman promises to hire all the Generals in the Mexican Army.


Lots of partisan crap going on behind closed doors or over the horizon, but they're keeping it clean on TV.

. . . but that could change in a heartbeat as panic sets in as the Day of Rectuming approaches.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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We have your typical testimonial ad's going on right now.

Some accountant for Pawlenty talking about how the democratic opponent's plan will add billions to the budget.

The democratic opponent Mike Hatch getting union workers like cops to talk about what a wonderful caring giving guy he is.

 

dmcowen674

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Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Completely negative and misinformation.

Also notice that both sides don't say whether they are Republican or Democrat, only when the Ad is paid for by either a Republican or Democrat Committee of some sort does it mention the party.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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We have the typical deceipt from Arnold Schwarzeneggar, and a mix from the democrat who is behind, Phil Angiledes; the most recent ad I saw for Phil was positice, not attack.

Other ads are the usual misleading things from big money sponsors, for example, a proposition for CA to get money from oil companies as some other states do, to put into alternative fuels, has attack ads from the oil companies hyping that there's no way to be sure how much the research will do.
 

slsmnaz

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Being in Virginia, the Webb/Allen thing is getting ugly. It gets so you can't tell what anyone stands for anymore. I'm tired of the negative selling. Tell me why you're good, not why the other guy sucks.
 

techs

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Sep 26, 2000
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From what I understand in Texas that the current governor is WAY ahead in the polls, yet he doesn't even have 50 percent of the voters in polls.
Apparently the fact their are three other candidates with real support has ensured the election is really no contest.
So the current governor has no reason to sling mud.
And the other candidates have so little chance they don't see the purpose.
I wonder what the situation would be if it were a close two way race?
btw here in Vermont the Republican candidate has already had ads that insinuate that his opponent wants seniors not to have access to medication, that his opponent wants Americans to die at the hands of terrorists and that his opponent is unfit because he wasn't born in Vermont and is Jewish.
Typical Republican uber rich , self financed candidate venom.
 

CaptnKirk

Lifer
Jul 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: techs
From what I understand in Texas that the current governor is WAY ahead in the polls, yet he doesn't even have 50 percent of the voters in polls.
Apparently the fact their are three other candidates with real support has ensured the election is really no contest.
So the current governor has no reason to sling mud.
And the other candidates have so little chance they don't see the purpose.
I wonder what the situation would be if it were a close two way race?
btw here in Vermont the Republican candidate has already had ads that insinuate that his opponent wants seniors not to have access to medication, that his opponent wants Americans to die at the hands of terrorists and that his opponent is unfit because he wasn't born in Vermont and is Jewish.
Typical Republican uber rich , self financed candidate venom.

Last numbers I saw were:

Perry @ 34%
Bell @ 24 %
Strayhorn @ 19%
Friedman @ 18%

That only leaves 5% as 'other' or 'undecided' - there's no runaway candidate here when the leader is barely at one-third favorable.
Bell was trying to get those who backed Friedman to join his camp by getting Kinky to side with him and get his backers.
That would move Bell up to 42% and he's hoping that Strayhorn continues to dilute the Perry political cause -
She's technically an Independant, but everyone knows that her politics are pure unadulterated GOP Texas.
Each is being very careful, as a dirty campaign would be expected to backfire and alienate those who still support them.

I do think Perry did a very good job in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, but all of his other doings are garbage.

 

WiseOldDude

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Feb 13, 2005
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11th Congressional district in NC is unberable. Local TV station says they have sold almost 1500 spots to the candidates, and it is all crap slinging name calling school yard taunts.

This is between Congressman Taylor (R-NC) listed as one of the top 20 corrupt politicians in Washington, and Heath Shuler who is the Democrats poster boy (former football jock or something like that is his claim to fame).

But the absoulute worst part is the 6 - 8 phone calls per day (every day) from both sides playing recorded messages about their whore... errr candidate. Caller ID is the only thing that is keeping me from going postal on these pimps (whore pushers)
 

vi edit

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IL Goobernatorial is a wasteland of finger pointing. Sadly most of it probably true. It's basically a battle of making you look better by making the other one look worse.

 

techs

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Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: techs
From what I understand in Texas that the current governor is WAY ahead in the polls, yet he doesn't even have 50 percent of the voters in polls.
Apparently the fact their are three other candidates with real support has ensured the election is really no contest.
So the current governor has no reason to sling mud.
And the other candidates have so little chance they don't see the purpose.
I wonder what the situation would be if it were a close two way race?
btw here in Vermont the Republican candidate has already had ads that insinuate that his opponent wants seniors not to have access to medication, that his opponent wants Americans to die at the hands of terrorists and that his opponent is unfit because he wasn't born in Vermont and is Jewish.
Typical Republican uber rich , self financed candidate venom.

Last numbers I saw were:

Perry @ 34%
Bell @ 24 %
Strayhorn @ 19%
Friedman @ 18%

That only leaves 5% as 'other' or 'undecided' - there's no runaway candidate here when the leader is barely at one-third favorable.
Bell was trying to get those who backed Friedman to join his camp by getting Kinky to side with him and get his backers.
That would move Bell up to 42% and he's hoping that Strayhorn continues to dilute the Perry political cause -
She's technically an Independant, but everyone knows that her politics are pure unadulterated GOP Texas.
Each is being very careful, as a dirty campaign would be expected to backfire and alienate those who still support them.

I do think Perry did a very good job in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, but all of his other doings are garbage.

I figured with a 10 point lead by Perry any possible surge away from him would still be split amongst the other three to some extent and still leave him in solid command.
Interesting that if Kinky hadn't run Perry and the other Republican oriented candidate might have let Bell slip in.
btw I assume that in Texas you don't need to get at least 50 percent to avoid a runoff.
 

2Xtreme21

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Jun 13, 2004
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We have Rick Santorum's family telling us how good he is and how un-family-like Bob Casey is. That just about sums up how retarded our ads are.
 

techs

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Sep 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: vi_edit
IL Goobernatorial is a wasteland of finger pointing. Sadly most of it probably true. It's basically a battle of making you look better by making the other one look worse.

The poll numbers on that race are wacky. Blagojevich has anywhere from 45 to 56 percent and Topinka from 26 to 37. Don't usually see three different polls so far apart.
 

CaptnKirk

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Jul 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: techs
From what I understand in Texas that the current governor is WAY ahead in the polls, yet he doesn't even have 50 percent of the voters in polls.
Apparently the fact their are three other candidates with real support has ensured the election is really no contest.
So the current governor has no reason to sling mud.
And the other candidates have so little chance they don't see the purpose.
I wonder what the situation would be if it were a close two way race?
btw here in Vermont the Republican candidate has already had ads that insinuate that his opponent wants seniors not to have access to medication, that his opponent wants Americans to die at the hands of terrorists and that his opponent is unfit because he wasn't born in Vermont and is Jewish.
Typical Republican uber rich , self financed candidate venom.

Last numbers I saw were:

Perry @ 34%
Bell @ 24 %
Strayhorn @ 19%
Friedman @ 18%

That only leaves 5% as 'other' or 'undecided' - there's no runaway candidate here when the leader is barely at one-third favorable.
Bell was trying to get those who backed Friedman to join his camp by getting Kinky to side with him and get his backers.
That would move Bell up to 42% and he's hoping that Strayhorn continues to dilute the Perry political cause -
She's technically an Independant, but everyone knows that her politics are pure unadulterated GOP Texas.
Each is being very careful, as a dirty campaign would be expected to backfire and alienate those who still support them.

I do think Perry did a very good job in the aftermath of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, but all of his other doings are garbage.

I figured with a 10 point lead by Perry any possible surge away from him would still be split amongst the other three to some extent and still leave him in solid command.
Interesting that if Kinky hadn't run Perry and the other Republican oriented candidate might have let Bell slip in.
btw I assume that in Texas you don't need to get at least 50 percent to avoid a runoff.



No runoff - winner take all.

I'll probably actually vote for Kinky Freidman, he's the only one who actually knows what's going on.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Being in Virginia, the Webb/Allen thing is getting ugly. It gets so you can't tell what anyone stands for anymore. I'm tired of the negative selling. Tell me why you're good, not why the other guy sucks.


I think the state of Virginia has shamed itself by keeping Allen ahead in the polls.

Hopefully they'll change their ways by election time.
 

nageov3t

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Kean/Menendez for senate is one of the dirtiest races in the country.

house rep isn't bothering with television advertisement.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Being in Virginia, the Webb/Allen thing is getting ugly. It gets so you can't tell what anyone stands for anymore. I'm tired of the negative selling. Tell me why you're good, not why the other guy sucks.


I think the state of Virginia has shamed itself by keeping Allen ahead in the polls.

Hopefully they'll change their ways by election time.

George Allens star has faded quickly. No more talk of him for President in '08. And now he is just hoping to hold on to his seat.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: vi_edit
IL Goobernatorial is a wasteland of finger pointing. Sadly most of it probably true. It's basically a battle of making you look better by making the other one look worse.

The poll numbers on that race are wacky. Blagojevich has anywhere from 45 to 56 percent and Topinka from 26 to 37. Don't usually see three different polls so far apart.

Blagojevich took a bit of a punch to the crotch the other day. One of his major contributers is just now getting federally indicted and he skipped the arraignment today. Oops.

The fallout hasn't quite been figured out yet. Most likely not enough to give Topinka any significant edge.
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Being in Virginia, the Webb/Allen thing is getting ugly. It gets so you can't tell what anyone stands for anymore. I'm tired of the negative selling. Tell me why you're good, not why the other guy sucks.


I think the state of Virginia has shamed itself by keeping Allen ahead in the polls.

Hopefully they'll change their ways by election time.

Allen should win easily. Webb has really shot himself in the foot with the racist comment issue. Turns out he has much more to fear.
 

Stunt

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Jul 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Completely negative and misinformation.
Funniest thing I've read all day!! :laugh:

Pot, meet kettle...
 

Starbuck1975

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The California political ads are ridiculous, particularly those for the various ballot initiative Propositions...the amount of misinformation being peddled by the special interests supporting or opposing these Propositions is astounding.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
The California political ads are ridiculous, particularly those for the various ballot initiative Propositions...the amount of misinformation being peddled by the special interests supporting or opposing these Propositions is astounding.


I've always though that false representation of an issue or a candidate, or involvement in perpetuating
a misrepresentation of facts in an issue should be punished by disqualification of the candidate,
or fortiture of their accumulated votes if it can be proven that they cheated.

There is no penalty for lying, cheating, or stealing from the voters.
 

Strk

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Nov 23, 2003
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Originally posted by: loki8481
Kean/Menendez for senate is one of the dirtiest races in the country.

house rep isn't bothering with television advertisement.

It is Jersey ;)
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Being in Virginia, the Webb/Allen thing is getting ugly. It gets so you can't tell what anyone stands for anymore. I'm tired of the negative selling. Tell me why you're good, not why the other guy sucks.


I think the state of Virginia has shamed itself by keeping Allen ahead in the polls.

Hopefully they'll change their ways by election time.

George Allens star has faded quickly. No more talk of him for President in '08. And now he is just hoping to hold on to his seat.

Yes, but the credit for removing him for president goes to the nation, not to Virginia.

The fact the polls still put him ahead in VA show the public there accepts a candidate with his flaws of racism and deceipt, among others, to their shame.
 

JackOfHearts

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The adds in ohio are all mud-slinging... I have even been called by recordings a few times. As I work nights they lose my vote for calling me....