How are the new 23.11 Dets

[Executor]

I am running the 21.83s from leadtek (i have winfast gf3 ti 500) right now. I am also running Windows XP. Should I update?

 

[BCYL]

I upgraded to XP last week and have been running the 23.11 drivers ever since (I have a GeForce 2 GTS though), seems stable to me...

I also got a higher 3dMark2001 score than my old 12.xx drivers... However I dont know if it's due to the new drivers or windows XP...

 

[Bovinicus]

They run fine for me, but I have heard about many problems related to the new drivers. They mostly seem to affect those who are using XP, so I wouldn't. They won't give you any kind of substantial gain. Of course, if you want, you could always give them a go and if they don't work just put back your trusty 21.83's.

 

[Mem]

No problems here with the drivers on XP with my Leadtek GF2 Ti,mind you I never get Nvidia driver problems .

 

[ShadowFox]

I'm running the 23.11's on my Leadtek Ti200 in WinXP Pro, no problems

 

[oldfart]

You cant disable vsync in D3D with 23.11's.

 

[Executor]

I can do that with my leadtek 21.83s.

 

[oldfart]

Yes, but it doesn't work. Run UT in D3D with the framerate counter running. You'll never go over your refresh rate.

 

[Rand]

The 23.11's gave me all kinds of errors with the nv4_disp infinite loop bug under WinXP. The 21.XX series still seem to be the best for me.

 

[oldfart]

I like the 22.50's.

 

[Executor]

I use NVmax. Will that clear up the vsync issue?

 

[oldfart]

I tried NVmax. Nope. 23.11 seems to ignore Vsync settings in D3D.

 

[LostHiWay]

I tried the 23.11's. I did get about 100 more points in 3dmark2001 but I got a few bluescreens in XP so I went back to 21.83. Much better stabilty now. I think XP is the only OS that has problems with 23.11.

 

[CdnMade]

the best drivers right now are the 23.10 get them and use them

 

[novice]

In my experience with a couple of Geforce 2 GTS's and a Geforce 2 Pro, the 23.11 drivers gave a significantly higher 3DMark 2001 score, but ran Unreal Tournament like garbage. The 21.83's and 21.88's seem to be more stable and "well rounded". I did leave the 23.11's on one machine because it seemed to run Unreal Tournament just fine after a clean install of the game (after the drivers were already installed). Hearkening back to my "if it's not broke, don't fix it" motto, I left the 23.11's on the machine that seems to like them fine and reverted back to the 21.83's on the other 2. I wonder if the 23.11's are "optimized" for the benchmark at the expense of stability in some of the older games? Edit: all 3 systems run Windows 98SE, and will until/unless Microsoft has a more reasonable licensing system for multi-users.
Chuck

 

[Doomguy]

You'll get blue screens with them. Run 3dmark overnight and when you wake up your comp will be reset or be sitting at a nice BSOD.

 

[neutralizer]

Running all games fine on WinXP and PNY Ti200 with Det 23.11. No stability or iq problems here..

 

[Didou]

Stay away from them if you use Win2K (SP2). I've went back to 21.85 because Win2K would crash at least once an hour with them. I've tryed the VIA Latency patch hoping it would fix it but it didn't.

 

[benjamat]

I recently decided to switch from intel to AMD and spent quite a bit of money building the system listed below in order to get the fastest system. having done so I have had many problems but the one I am raising here is to do with the compatability of nvidia and Via.

I have an XP sytem and have found that the only nvidia drivers that work with my setup when playing games in particular are the pre detonator xp 12.41 version which happens to be the driver that is native to WinXP. None of the newer drives even those certified allow most games to run without graphic lock ups, 21.83 - 23.11 etc.

Whilst I am tempted to blame via for this perhaps the problem lies with nvidia or even microsoft. Why is it that pre detonator xp drivers work with Win XP and games (AVP-2, Wolf3D, Black & White ) while all later versions the detonator xP's cause lock-ups.
What is it that they all did with the old drivers that they have not done with the XP's?

When you spend a large amount of money to get the fasrtest and most up to date system it is a bit sickening to find that you lose around 30% of your potential performance because of incompatability between such major players. (the 30% is in 3dmark 2001) which does run with newer drivers.

 

[SaturnX]

<< Yes, but it doesn't work. Run UT in D3D with the framerate counter running. You'll never go over your refresh rate. >>



That's because UT for some reasons uses it's own VSync, that is driver irrelavent, if you got into your unrealtournament.ini file and under the heading:

[D3DDrv.D3DRenderDevice]

Change

UseVSync=False

to

UseVSync=True

This disables vsync, worked for me, and I'm using the 23.11s, WinXP and not a single crash in any 3D application/game.

--Mark

 

[YBS1]

The 23.11s are the only one's I've used on XP that seem to perform well in all my games, others usually had an issue with one game or another. The only problem I have with them is I installed Empire Earth about 3 days ago, about 10 minutes into any session of that...blue screen (nv4 error displayed). If not for Empire Earth I'd have some pretty good system uptime about now, can't think of anything else off my head that's crashed XP here.

 

[HaVoC]

Got a VIA KT133A mobo, GF3 Ti200 and Win2K. 23.11s caused huge system instability problems for me. On bootup, the system would hard-freeze within a minute or two. Went back to the 21.83s and doing good so far. I did have a crash from a bugcheck critical error. So it's the 21.83s that work fine for me now.

 

[brainalien]

I installed the 23.11's on my Win98 machine (AMD Athlon, MSI Pro motherboard) and everything went smoothly except it makes my USB, optical Intellimouse Explorer practically useless when playing games(the cursor moves very erratic)? It works fine in Win98 though. I've also installed the newest ver. of DirectX 8, but that's not the problem because when I went back to my previous nvidia drivers, my mouse went back to normal. Weird huh?

 

[BlakkIce]

i tried the 23.11 on a via chipset and got a BSOD with the bug that is going around ill try the 21.83 and ill report back

 

[oldfart]

I've never had any version of nVidia Det drivers cause any system issue what-so-ever including the 23.11's. One version to the next might have a minor visual glitch when playing games such as z buffer errors or vsync funkiness, but never once a BSOD, lock up, freeze, USB (say what?!) problem of any sort.