They say cigarettes are much worse, but I say that is PROBABLY a bunch of bs. How many people have stopped cold turkey from cigarettes? How many do that on heroin so easily?
For what it's worth, the only friend of mine who I know has shot up and was addicted to heroin has since stopped shooting up but still smokes cigarettes.
From what I understand trying to quit cold turkey from either drug is complete hell.
A good friend of mine checked himself into a clinic 3 weeks ago. I'm not quite sure how long he has been doing it, but its been a few years. He told me the breaking point was waking up in the morning and needing some just to get through the day. He said it scared teh hell out of him. 
We pretty much grew up together, so its very sad to see him go through this.
We pretty much grew up together, so its very sad to see him go through this.Do some research and you would know that cigarettes have over 300 ingredients, nicotine being just ONE. They add other things and even mess with the genetic part of the tobacco plant to make its even worse then natural.
So NO they do not add more nicotine, they add things that enhance it, make it more potent in the plant, etc? So nicotine by itself is not AS bad as it would be 100% natural, but the extra stuff they add makes it worse.
I've used daily for years, its absolutely NOT addictive... as long as you get your daily shots you'll be fine.
My friend used to be addicted to heroin. She still lhas massive track marks on her arms. I don't when/how she quit, but it definitely explains a lot about why she is the way she is.
I my younger / dumber days I DID try it.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<DON'T TRY IT!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
From my limited experience with it, I can see how people can get hooked.
And unlike some other drugs, it IS both physically and mentally addictive!
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<DON'T TRY IT!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
From my limited experience with it, I can see how people can get hooked.
And unlike some other drugs, it IS both physically and mentally addictive!
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Wow, that's a great description. Back in the day, the description I remember hearing was that it's like a ongoing low key orgasm in every cell of your body. I knew enough to stay away.
Btw, some people seriously claim that nicotine is more addictive. The difference is that not every smoker is biologically addicted to nicotine. I myself quit nearly 20 years ago and experienced no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. The key was staying our of social situations involving alcohol.
But some are biologically addicted to nicotine. They have a much harder row to hoe.
Addictions suck. Take these forums for instance. Please.
Oh, one last thing. Never trust a junkie. I've even had more than one junkie tell me that themselves. Sad, really, but they'll rip off ANYONE for a fix. I just learned last month that a long time friend of mine is facing that situation with his brother, who relapsed YET AGAIN, and lost everything -- home, wife, job -- and is now fresh out of rehab and needing a place to live. Not that they don't love him, but no one in his family is willing to trust him in their homes. Sad, really. Hard drugs = teH SuXoRs.
When I was 18 a friend and I tried it, I ended up drooling all over myself for like an hour and a half. I did not feel an urge for it again after that, but I tried it several months later with some chick. The second time though was differrent, the day after my body was kinda craving it.
Some years later I had the same thing come about after taking oxycotin after breaking my hip. I found myself taking them more for the pleasure/need than the pain.
Opiates and thier derivatives are not to be messed with.
Yes heroin is that addictive
Some years later I had the same thing come about after taking oxycotin after breaking my hip. I found myself taking them more for the pleasure/need than the pain.
Opiates and thier derivatives are not to be messed with.
Yes heroin is that addictive
I HAD to see what the hype was with crack, so I did try it once.
WAY WAY WAY over rated it you ask me.
It may be mentally addictive, but I don't think it's physically addictive. (I could be wrong)
BTW> In my younger wilder days I did about every drug you can name. I NEVER got addicted to ANY of them. Camels, on the other hand are a whole other story. THAT'S where their "War On Drugs" should be targeted. (But they make WAY too much cash on them to want to wage the same kind of "war"....)
Lot of misinformation in this thread...
- Nicotine is technically more addictive, but the far worse withdrawl symptoms associated with stopping heroin use make it generally harder to quit.
- Tolerance is why heroin overdoses are so tragically common. Users get to where they're used to taking a certain dose, but if they don't have it for a few days their tolerance can go down to where their regular dose is now an overdose.
- Coke (and therefore crack - same chemical, different input methods) aren't physically addictive the way heroin, tobacco and various other drugs are, but they directly stimulate the pleasure centers of the brain by inhibiting dopamine reuptake. It's similar to how SSRI antidepressants like Prozac work, although they work on serotonin and not dopamine. This makes them phenomenally psychologically addictive.
There are two types of addictions; physical and psychological. Physical addictions occur when the body comes to depend chemically on a substance to perform its functions. Nicotine, heroin, and alcohol are some examples of it. Psychological addictions occur when the person forms a habit of doing something pleasureable; pot, television, and food all fall into this category
Btw, I saw Requiem and Trainspotting, and while they're good, I consider The Basketball Diaries to be a more poignant look at heroin addiction, and would recommend it.
- Nicotine is technically more addictive, but the far worse withdrawl symptoms associated with stopping heroin use make it generally harder to quit.
- Tolerance is why heroin overdoses are so tragically common. Users get to where they're used to taking a certain dose, but if they don't have it for a few days their tolerance can go down to where their regular dose is now an overdose.
- Coke (and therefore crack - same chemical, different input methods) aren't physically addictive the way heroin, tobacco and various other drugs are, but they directly stimulate the pleasure centers of the brain by inhibiting dopamine reuptake. It's similar to how SSRI antidepressants like Prozac work, although they work on serotonin and not dopamine. This makes them phenomenally psychologically addictive.
There are two types of addictions; physical and psychological. Physical addictions occur when the body comes to depend chemically on a substance to perform its functions. Nicotine, heroin, and alcohol are some examples of it. Psychological addictions occur when the person forms a habit of doing something pleasureable; pot, television, and food all fall into this category
Btw, I saw Requiem and Trainspotting, and while they're good, I consider The Basketball Diaries to be a more poignant look at heroin addiction, and would recommend it.
ODs out of prison/rehab are pretty common. the same tolerance the person had going in isnt going to be there so they just over-do it, so to speak.
my quasi-uncle (common-law husband of my aunt) died that way.
my quasi-uncle (common-law husband of my aunt) died that way.
"People Who Died
By Jim Carroll
Teddy sniffing glue he was 12 years old
Fell from the roof on East Two-nine
Cathy was 11 when she pulled the plug
On 26 reds and a bottle of wine
Bobby got leukemia, 14 years old
He looked like 65 when he died
He was a friend of mine
Refrain:
Those are people who died, died
Those are people who died, died
Those are people who died, died
Those are people who died, died
They were all my friends, and they died
G-berg and Georgie let their gimmicks go rotten
So they died of hepatitis in upper Manhattan
Sly in Vietnam took a bullet in the head
Bobby OD'd on Drano on the night that he was wed
They were two more friends of mine
Two more friends that died / I miss 'em--they died
Repeat Refrain
Mary took a dry dive from a hotel room
Bobby hung himself from a cell in the tombs
Judy jumped in front of a subway train
Eddie got slit in the jugular vein
And Eddie, I miss you more than all the others,
And I salute you brother/ This song is for you my brother
Repeat Refrain
Herbie pushed Tony from the Boys' Club roof
Tony thought that his rage was just some goof
But Herbie sure gave Tony some bitchen proof
"Hey," Herbie said, "Tony, can you fly?"
But Tony couldn't fly . . . Tony died
Repeat Refrain:
Brian got busted on a narco rap
He beat the rap by rattin' on some bikers
He said, hey, I know it's dangerous,
but it sure beats Riker's
But the next day he got offed
by the very same bikers
Repeat Refrain; repeat song to Eddie"
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BTW: The Basketball Diaries is about Jim Carroll's life.
As im cheefing a doobie and reading this topic, i do say i am now more informed than i was before. thanks guys. I do know crack is considered more addictive because it seems that weaker people get hooked on it. crack aint coke cause its cheap. people who have money buy coke, people who dont buy crack...usually. I live in south philly and the dealers on my block get rich off these crackheads. Nothin compares to cigarette companies though, biggest drug dealers ever and making $$$$$. They made enough dough early on in history to pay off the right people to keep it legal, and get enough of them hooked....hehe.
I've seen heroin addicts and whoa, im never doing any of that stuff. I remember i used to take a puff off a newport after uhh....you know...and i would cough my ass off but the enhancement was worth it. one time i did that and I didnt cough and actually liked it. I never have touched a cigarette since....
I've seen heroin addicts and whoa, im never doing any of that stuff. I remember i used to take a puff off a newport after uhh....you know...and i would cough my ass off but the enhancement was worth it. one time i did that and I didnt cough and actually liked it. I never have touched a cigarette since....
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