I'm actually one of maybe 5 girls in my major. Information Sciences and Technology at Penn State(smaller branch campus for now). It's a very general major in my opinion. When I graduate I'll be able to do a variety of things.
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Hahaha. There was usually only two or three girls in my CS classes, and one of them was actually really fucking hot. Plus this was at a school with like a 4:1 guy/girl ratio, it was harsh mang.Originally posted by: Jeff7
Wow, two of them?Originally posted by: Goosemaster
:laugh:
It sucks fighting over the only two [ugly] chicks
5 classes, each one with about 70 people. One woman out of all of them, across the 5 classes.
But if I wander over to the social science or biology buildings, estrogen levels in the air skyrocket drastically. There's a nursing program starting too - of course, the engineering and nursing buildings are on opposite ends of the campus.
"Sex can wait. I want to be an engineer!"
:laugh:
Sometimes I'd take a longer path to my next class and walk through the bio building where there were actual females on campus, lol.
Just do what I did and go to college where the girl to guy ratio is 5:1 or better. At that point it doesn't matter how many of them are in your classroom hehe.
On a more serious note, if you are interested in Computer Networking then you will probably benefit the most from an Information Systems (IS) major. However, you may want to consider taking the Computer Science or Computer Engineering route anyways. Learning what you need to do on the job when it comes to computer networking without taking a major relating directly to it tends to be easier for most people than it is to do the same thing regarding computer hardware design or programming. Just a thought. In any case, do what interests you the most.
Originally posted by: bombatwist
another good reason i don't want to go to a school with computer only majors such as itt tech.
i actually enjoy messing around with code such as php and html, so i think most of the things i learn in college will be interesting and not boring.
bwahahah.... itt tech is not a school.
it's a technical training center.
Computer science is a lot of theory but the people that understand that theory will make the big bucks. Learning a programming language and its syntax is necessary to some extent in college but its something that can be self taught easily.
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Lifer
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They have a Bachelor of Science in Toaster Repair I hear.Originally posted by: toolboxolio
Originally posted by: bombatwist
another good reason i don't want to go to a school with computer only majors such as itt tech.
i actually enjoy messing around with code such as php and html, so i think most of the things i learn in college will be interesting and not boring.
bwahahah.... itt tech is not a school.
it's a technical training center.
I don't remember any networking classes in CE, but there are a few in CS. Those relate to the programming and theoretical aspects of networking, though. I don't think most schools are going to have a serious network engineering program.
Very true. Now if only we can spread the word around to employers that just because you have a CS degree doesn't mean you have experience with the modern languages then we will be a little farther along. That or at least requiring some of the CS courses to involve a modern language through the use of modern programming tools.
This is subjective and depends greatly on the person... I switched out of CS to EE. EE was easier and more fun for me.
Ya it really depends on what your strengths and weaknesses are in terms of how you think. I really don't consider CS, CE, or EE to be any easier or harder than one another. It's purely subjective.
If he doesn't know the difference between CS and CE, there's a good chance he isn't talking about the theory side
Hey
I am about to start @ Cal Poly Pomona in April as a transfer student, majoring in Business Administration focused in Computer Information Systems. I just went to my orientation last friday. I can tell you there are a ton of hot chicks in Business Admin but during the orientation they broke us up into smaller groups focusing on specific majors and there was about 30 students with me in CIS and out of those 30 only 3 chicks.
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Originally posted by: bombatwist
another good reason i don't want to go to a school with computer only majors such as itt tech.
No, this is pretty much standard anywhere.... (Note that it's a generalization, but it's meant to point out that no matter where you go, CS tends to be male dominated... unless it's an all-girl school
).Danger, Will Robinson! Substituting hobby for job!
Where I went to college they had a BA and a BS in CS. The BS was just more math and required science courses.
I graduated from UCI in '03 from ICS (Information & Computer Science, that's what CS is called there) with a "specialization" in networks and distributed systems. What that specialization basically entailed was me taking 1 distributed networking class, 2 computer networking classes, and probably some other one that didn't really fit in, yet still counted towards the spec.
The 2 computer networking classes consisted of 1 intro class where we learned things such as the protocols, network types, and performed some calculations like bandwidth. The 2nd was a project course where you got to play with Cisco routers and analyze your observations. That one was pretty fun. Our TA said that after that class we should be able to pass the Cisco certification test (level 1, or whatever the beginning Cisco certification is).
Like others here have already said, the majority of classes, though, are theory related where you learn about operating systems, architectures, algorithms, etc. There were a few programming courses. I think we did PHP for a couple weeks in 1 class. No HTML though. I also don't remember an IT/IS major or specific course. Things might be different now so you can always check out their current course offerings.
UCI and Cal Poly Pomona are both fine schools, can't go wrong with either. Good luck!
The 2 computer networking classes consisted of 1 intro class where we learned things such as the protocols, network types, and performed some calculations like bandwidth. The 2nd was a project course where you got to play with Cisco routers and analyze your observations. That one was pretty fun. Our TA said that after that class we should be able to pass the Cisco certification test (level 1, or whatever the beginning Cisco certification is).
Like others here have already said, the majority of classes, though, are theory related where you learn about operating systems, architectures, algorithms, etc. There were a few programming courses. I think we did PHP for a couple weeks in 1 class. No HTML though. I also don't remember an IT/IS major or specific course. Things might be different now so you can always check out their current course offerings.
UCI and Cal Poly Pomona are both fine schools, can't go wrong with either. Good luck!
I would recommend prioritizing as follows:
1. Find a university you really like, ignoring (for now) major. This will have the biggest impact on your life, both on the 4 years you're there and afterwards. You spend as much (if not more) time doing things totally unrelated to your major - such as other classes, extra curriculars, sports, parties, etc - so make sure you are happy with the campus, people, teacher-to-student-ratio, university reputation, night life, etc.
2. Pick a major that gives you a solid foundation in some field and not just some very specific subfield. For example, don't major in "just" computer networking. It may be useful and interesting, but waaaay to specific for an undergrad degree and could pigeonhole you in the future. Instead, pick a far more general major, such as computer science, computer engineering or electrical engineering. These will give you the basis you need to go into *any* specific field you want. For example, a solid computer science understanding will make learning computer networking very easy, but also allow you to study computer graphics, web design, scientific computing, etc.
3. Pick a specialization within the major, if you want (or school requires it). this could be computer networking or whatever you're interested in at the time.
1. Find a university you really like, ignoring (for now) major. This will have the biggest impact on your life, both on the 4 years you're there and afterwards. You spend as much (if not more) time doing things totally unrelated to your major - such as other classes, extra curriculars, sports, parties, etc - so make sure you are happy with the campus, people, teacher-to-student-ratio, university reputation, night life, etc.
2. Pick a major that gives you a solid foundation in some field and not just some very specific subfield. For example, don't major in "just" computer networking. It may be useful and interesting, but waaaay to specific for an undergrad degree and could pigeonhole you in the future. Instead, pick a far more general major, such as computer science, computer engineering or electrical engineering. These will give you the basis you need to go into *any* specific field you want. For example, a solid computer science understanding will make learning computer networking very easy, but also allow you to study computer graphics, web design, scientific computing, etc.
3. Pick a specialization within the major, if you want (or school requires it). this could be computer networking or whatever you're interested in at the time.
At my school Electrical Engineering (which I'm in) is awfully close to Computer Engineering. In fact, many of the electives say that I can take from EE or CE. That means to me that if I plan things out right, it wouldn't take much effort to get both degrees. Any thoughts on that?
I had planned on doing Electrical along with Mechanical but I'm still waiting on the school to finalize the program.
I had planned on doing Electrical along with Mechanical but I'm still waiting on the school to finalize the program.
I double majored in computer science and computer engineering at UW-Madison. The thing that many people are surprised by is that the computer science curriculum doesnt have a java class, a c++ class, a perl class, etc... You may have one of them your first year, but it is much more about teaching things like data structures, using API's, string manipulation, complexity and the such. As you get further and further along, you will be expected to 'pick up' languages for classes. Our OS class was taught in C and I had never had used C before so I just picked it up along the way.
With computer engineering, expect much more math work and less lab work your first few years. Once you start getting into design courses, then you will start getting on the circuit boards, fpgas and simulators. Again, there will be a good amount of coding that you are required to 'pick up' along the way with verilog, vhdl, and software specific stuff like matlab and mentor graphics.
With computer engineering, expect much more math work and less lab work your first few years. Once you start getting into design courses, then you will start getting on the circuit boards, fpgas and simulators. Again, there will be a good amount of coding that you are required to 'pick up' along the way with verilog, vhdl, and software specific stuff like matlab and mentor graphics.
I have found there is much more of an overlap between CS and CMPE class wise, but yes, there were many early classes that both CMPE and ECE people took at my university.
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