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josphII

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
who cares Cad, kerry's coming into office in a few months and all this bush talk will be irrelevant.

care to wager? winner chooses content of other persons sig
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Stunt
"Investors are very nervous."

For good reason!
Indeed. The bond markets are bleeding. Inflation is rearing its ugly head. IMO, the Fed screwed up by not raising rates earlier this week, as such action might have contained inflation fears in the bond and mortgage-backed securities markets.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Stunt
I am by no means left, i'm am very much conservative, and most conservatives shouldn't just looking at jobs but where they are coming from and how well the country is doing as a whole. Jobs on the back of the debt through the form of tax cuts for the rich and lower interest rates is no way to stimulate the economy. In effect this is no better than government created jobs with massive deficits.

The US debt, for fun refresh your browser, mmmm look at that sh!t go!

We have been looking at the big picture. See my leftist excuse chart. That is how their "bad economy" excuses have progressed. They wanted jobs - we are getting jobs. We aren't going to ignore them because they were making such a fuss about it.

It's just more evidence that the left isn't happy even when they get what they want. They always have one more excuse at the ready or one more demand. It's hilarious to witness :D:p

CkG

PS - becareful before you respond - take a look at what I've said about our gov't fiscal issues here on the forum;)
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: bjc112
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs...

Hopefully you picked one up Dave.. :)

Fox

CNN

Yahoo


Keep it up.

Make that 288,001

An IT Company (CMIT) called me this morning. Start on Monday.


OH TEH NOEEEEESSSS!!!!! Who is going to watch the sky while you are in your cube farm?

Anyway - congrats on your new job. Maybe now you won't be such a pessimist.;)

CkG

Edit -this needs it's own thread :D
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: bjc112
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs...

Hopefully you picked one up Dave.. :)

Fox

CNN

Yahoo


Keep it up.

Make that 288,001

An IT Company (CMIT) called me this morning. Start on Monday.


OH TEH NOEEEEESSSS!!!!! Who is going to watch the sky while you are in your cube farm?

Anyway - congrats on your new job. Maybe now you won't be such a pessimist.;)

CkG

Edit -this needs it's own thread :D

No cube, already ran around to a couple of different client locations today tagging along with other Tech.

Added some hardware checked out VPN connections etc.
 

dmcowen674

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This was out of the Blue that I got called. I had not applied there or anything.

They did reverse networking. A person who knows a person kind of thing gave him my number. I have a rough idea who gave him my number but not a 100% sure who.

Maybe Donna and I won't be moving afterall?
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This was out of the Blue that I got called. I had not applied there or anything.

I know what is was...

They knew you were sitting by the phone after reading the "half-page" of help wanted ads in the newspaper;) Maybe we should change how we count the "unemployed" - you are living proof it works, dave!!! :p

CkG
 

zephyrprime

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bureau of labor statistics

The jobs report was 120K higher than needed to beat population growth. But the thing I can't understand about this report and the last report is why the number of people not in the labor force can increase slightly if the net number of jobs is increasing.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: bjc112
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs...

Hopefully you picked one up Dave.. :)

Fox

CNN

Yahoo


Keep it up.
Make that 288,001

An IT Company (CMIT) called me this morning. Start on Monday.
Hell hath frozen over.

Next thing yaknow, the Cubbies will win the Series, and the Ducks will win the Rose Bowl :p
 

Stunt

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kill thousands for an unjust cause, screw over the economy, destroy US international relations, and create one job while in office = re-election

only in the good ol' USA
 

earthman

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Bush will be the only president since the depression to leave office with less americans working than when he came in. Still 3,000,000 jobs to go just to get back where we were.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: earthman
Bush will be the only president since the depression to leave office with less americans working than when he came in. Still 3,000,000 jobs to go just to get back where we were.

Bzzztt.... Wrong answer.

CkG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Stunt
either of you two have data to back that up?

Like you needed to ask :roll:

Total Non-Farm Employment (Seasonally Adjusted)

January 2001 - 132,388,000 (non-farm employment)
April 2004 - 130,902,000 (Non-farm employment)

So that is 1,486,000 seasonally adjusted jobs less - not 3,000,000.

Now also one must consider the household survey which shows a gain of 1.643 million jobs.

First quarter 2001 - 136,933,000 Employed
Current number - 138,576,000 Employed

So either way you cut it - his post was wrong.:)

CkG

Edit to fix ftp link
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This was out of the Blue that I got called. I had not applied there or anything.

They did reverse networking. A person who knows a person kind of thing gave him my number. I have a rough idea who gave him my number but not a 100% sure who.



;)
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Stunt
I am by no means left, i'm am very much conservative, and most conservatives shouldn't just looking at jobs but where they are coming from and how well the country is doing as a whole. Jobs on the back of the debt through the form of tax cuts for the rich and lower interest rates is no way to stimulate the economy. In effect this is no better than government created jobs with massive deficits.

The US debt, for fun refresh your browser, mmmm look at that sh!t go!


Why don't you research the Total net worth of the Us (Government and private), And then
research Total Debt (Government and private..) And then maybe you will have a clue, ehhhh.

;)
 

Stunt

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Why don't you research the Total net worth of the Us (Government and private), And then
research Total Debt (Government and private..) And then maybe you will have a clue, ehhhh.

Total net worth includes false borrowed money...not an accurate picture.
that is flat up debt, what you owe.


January 2001 - 132,388,000 (non-farm employment)
April 2004 - 130,902,000 (Non-farm employment)

So that is 1,486,000 seasonally adjusted jobs less - not 3,000,000.

Now also one must consider the household survey which shows a gain of 1.643 million jobs.

First quarter 2001 - 136,933,000 Employed
Current number - 138,576,000 Employed

So either way you cut it - his post was wrong.

Ok, so lets say there are 1.64 million more jobs now than the end of the clinton term.
According to the Berkeley Ansley Coale Formula (P(t) = 271 + 5*t starting at 1998 and t in years)

the population has increased from 286million in 2001 to 301million ppl in 2004.
so minimal gains on jobs compared to the population increase, nice try though!
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Stunt
January 2001 - 132,388,000 (non-farm employment)
April 2004 - 130,902,000 (Non-farm employment)

So that is 1,486,000 seasonally adjusted jobs less - not 3,000,000.

Now also one must consider the household survey which shows a gain of 1.643 million jobs.

First quarter 2001 - 136,933,000 Employed
Current number - 138,576,000 Employed

So either way you cut it - his post was wrong.

Ok, so lets say there are 1.64 million more jobs now than the end of the clinton term.
According to the Berkeley Ansley Coale Formula (P(t) = 271 + 5*t starting at 1998 and t in years)

the population has increased from 286million in 2001 to 301million ppl in 2004.
so minimal gains on jobs compared to the population increase, nice try though!

I wasn't the moron who claimed "Still 3,000,000 jobs to go just to get back where we were." Either way you cut it - he was wrong. You asked for the data - I provided it. Now if you want to whine about population growth -that's another subject.
The FACTS are - the economy is getting better and has been doing so in an increasing manner. The 8.2% growth we saw late last year was no fluke - it was real - just like these job increase numbers this year.:)

CkG