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How about elected officials' ties to Chinese spies?

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Trump deserved blame in the Russia fiasco. Chinese spies are a different topic. Don't expect equivalent reactions.

Russian interference in our elections was a far greater concern.
 
zzyzxroad said:
Are you going to explain what you meant when you said ""Swalwell, OTOH, is another story" or keep dodging that one?
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I'm not gonna because my sources will be ridiculed. Nevertheless, even if he wasn't a willing participant, and even if a 20 year driver of one of the most powerful senators didn't know, it's fucking concerning. Who knows what evidence they gathered? It's a huge concern.

But collusion!

Edit: let's say neither target in the op knew. It's chilling. I haven't heard of a spy implant so far up in the ranks of our government yet the media ignores it. It's terrifying. This is way beyond (allegedly) working with a POTUS candidate with planting Facebook ads.
 
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blackangst1 said:
I'm not gonna because my sources will be ridiculed. Nevertheless, even if he wasn't a willing participant, and even if a 20 year driver of one of the most powerful senators didn't know, it's fucking concerning. Who knows what evidence they gathered? It's a huge concern.

But collusion!

Edit: let's say neither target in the op knew. It's chilling. I haven't heard of a spy implant so far up in the ranks of our government yet the media ignores it. It's terrifying. This is way beyond (allegedly) working with a POTUS candidate with planting Facebook ads.
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So you make a statement about Swalwell and refuse to back it up. My question was simple and you are attempting to change the subject. This is why no one here takes you seriously. It is time to step back and reevaluate. Your opinions are not based in reality.
 
zzyzxroad said:
So you make a statement about Swalwell and refuse to back it up. My question was simple and you are attempting to change the subject. This is why no one here takes you seriously. It is time to step back and reevaluate. Your opinions are not based in reality.
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Well fuck you then. If you can show where I've posted false information your assertion may hold merit. But you can't. I don't even know why you're arguing about this. The facts speaks for themselves. You don't don't seem to be arguing that. Sooooo what's your malfunction?
 
blackangst1 said:
And there was no collusion.
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There was, objectively, collusion. It's documented in the Mueller report. To continue to stomp your feet and scream what you heard on ring wing media doesn't mean it's true.

I know you've been told this before, and are either incapable or unwilling to uhdero, but there was no definitive proof of criminal conspiracy which is dramatically different than collision. You have fallen for the right's (successful) attempt at conflating the two.

It's a bad look, being this persistently ignorant.
 
blackangst1 said:
No. What kind of info do you think a 20 year driver of one of the most powerful senators must've gotten?
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I have no idea - what do you think? Are you thinking they were discussing classified material around their drivers?

And there was no collusion.
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Of course there was - Don Jr. publicly confessed to it when he released emails showing him meeting with Russian agents for the purposes of obtaining dirt on Clinton.

It is absolutely insane how strong partisanship is where people keep denying this even after he confessed.
 
blackangst1 said:
I'm not gonna because my sources will be ridiculed. Nevertheless, even if he wasn't a willing participant, and even if a 20 year driver of one of the most powerful senators didn't know, it's fucking concerning. Who knows what evidence they gathered? It's a huge concern.

But collusion!

Edit: let's say neither target in the op knew. It's chilling. I haven't heard of a spy implant so far up in the ranks of our government yet the media ignores it. It's terrifying. This is way beyond (allegedly) working with a POTUS candidate with planting Facebook ads.
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Again, the fact that you are now pretending to care about foreign intelligence operations after saying nothing over the last four years (and actively denying them in this thread) is absolutely hilarious. We get it - now that Trump lost you want to pretend to care about these things because it is convenient and because right wing media tells you to. I actually DO care about them no matter who is involved but it’s obvious you don’t.

Also you are complaining about the media ignoring an issue where in your OP you link to CBS News reporting on it. It should say something though where you’re afraid to post your sources because you know they will be ridiculed.
 
blackangst1 said:
This thread isn't about Trump you dolt.
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It is about you trying to compare Russia to Chinese spies and why everyone's hair isn't on fire like it was for Russia. You are also trying to further the smear Biden in wholly owned by China. Unlike Trump there is no evidence to support this.

Russia interfered into our election to help Trump. Putin admitted it in Helsinki while at the same time Trump tried to deny it
 
The entire premise of the thread is "whattabout", and the statement that someone refuses to reveal their sources due to fear of ridicule is fuggin awesome, great thread just once again revealing how dum conservatives think other people are.
 
Glad we're all concerned about espionage now. Is there ANYTHING right wing sock puppets won't be complete hypocrites about? Holy shit.

Where the hell were you muppets when Trump and his people were working with Russians to fuck America? I don't recall much outrage from Team Treason for Cadet Bonespurs using an unsecure phone, ignoring security briefs, giving Putin that famous handy in Helsinki - or any of the other dozens of ways Trump has compromised our intelligence services and national security.

Sounds like more flip of the switch concerns from republicans, like their infamously sporadic concern for fiscal responsibility or American lives.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. Security will get an immediate and much needed upgrade the day the traitor has been evicted.
 
blackangst1 said:
I'm not gonna because my sources will be ridiculed. Nevertheless, even if he wasn't a willing participant, and even if a 20 year driver of one of the most powerful senators didn't know, it's fucking concerning. Who knows what evidence they gathered? It's a huge concern.

But collusion!

Edit: let's say neither target in the op knew. It's chilling. I haven't heard of a spy implant so far up in the ranks of our government yet the media ignores it. It's terrifying. This is way beyond (allegedly) working with a POTUS candidate with planting Facebook ads.
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Allow me

Fang entered the US as a college student in 2011 and immediately began getting close to a number of politicians, including two Midwestern mayors she allegedly slept with.

According to the report, she met Swalwell when he was a city councilman in California and went on to help him raise funds for his 2014 campaign.
Federal probers who had been investigating Fang briefed Swalwell in 2015 about her actions and he cut off all ties with her. He has not been accused of any wrongdoing.
nypost.com

GOP urges Nancy Pelosi to remove Eric Swalwell from Intelligence Committee

More than a dozen Republican House members wrote to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi calling for her to remove Rep. Eric Swalwell from the Intelligence Committee after his connection to a suspected Chin…
nypost.com nypost.com
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adding cnn as well
www.cnn.com

House GOP leaders ask Pelosi to remove Swalwell from Intelligence Committee

House Republicans sent a letter Tuesday to Speaker Nancy Pelosi asking that Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell of California be removed from the House Intelligence Committee following a report that he had been targeted by a suspected Chinese intelligence operative as part of a broader effort to...
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
 
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kage69 said:
Glad we're all concerned about espionage now. Is there ANYTHING right wing sock puppets won't be complete hypocrites about? Holy shit.

Where the hell were you muppets when Trump and his people were working with Russians to fuck America? I don't recall much outrage from Team Treason for Cadet Bonespurs using an unsecure phone, ignoring security briefs, giving Putin that famous handy in Helsinki - or any of the other dozens of ways Trump has compromised our intelligence services and national security.

Sounds like more flip of the switch concerns from republicans, like their infamously sporadic concern for fiscal responsibility or American lives.

I wouldn't worry too much about this. Security will get an immediate and much needed upgrade the day the traitor has been evicted.
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Forget 'where WERE you', in this very thread he's still denying it even happened!

If he were some sort of Democratic plant trying to paint conservatives as absolutely shameless hypocrites I don't know how you would do it any better than by making a thread complaining about foreign intelligence threats and then following it up with 'no collusion'.
 
Amused said:
I think it's funny how the right-wing is trying to manufacture a china-gate story by simply using claims that just copy the actual Russia investigation findings.
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Yep, just more of the same idiocy. Literally all of the things they're screaming about now, Turmp did worse while they defended it. And that's before you get to the reality where the Democrat cut off contact once informed versus their lying bullshit trying to act like Swallwell was leveraging the Chinese spy and currently still fucking her. But somehow the Democrat situation is worse because OMG they want the D so bad they can practically taste it (oh that's just the contact flavor from them making out with Turmp after he sucked Putin's dick).
 
darkswordsman17 said:
I think the point is the OP proving yet again what a complete fucking dumbfuck he is willing to be on every topic. He's not to slowmorons1 but he's definitely striving to get there.
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I think the flow is this...

A = 3
B = Dog
Dog => E (or) Dog =< E ( or) Dog = Rascally wabbit
A+D = Rugburn

Does B = Rugburn? What do we know about dogs? Under A , all every ever talked about was how A had rug burn. Now that B is here it's hypocritical that no one is talking about B's rugburn.
How about C's relationship with Y?
 
It's particularly stupid because the only thing that punishing Swalwell would do would be to encourage other lawmakers who were targeted by foreign agents to lie, hide and obfuscate. He handled things pretty much exactly how you'd want.
 
pauldun170 said:
I think the flow is this...

A = 3
B = Dog
Dog => E (or) Dog =< E ( or) Dog = Rascally wabbit
A+D = Rugburn

Does B = Rugburn? What do we know about dogs? Under A , all every ever talked about was how A had rug burn. Now that B is here it's hypocritical that no one is talking about B's rugburn.
How about C's relationship with Y?
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You give their math and logic skills far more credit than they deserve.

My guess is its more like:

Democrat = Devil (its right in the D!)
Republican = God
 
ewdotson said:
It's particularly stupid because the only thing that punishing Swalwell would do would be to encourage other lawmakers who were targeted by foreign agents to lie, hide and obfuscate. He handled things pretty much exactly how you'd want.
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I agree. There's no need or basis for punishing him.
 
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