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How ABIT motherboards are made

$80-$100 US in China does go a long way or so I hear. From what I hear, $100 a month in a rural area can get royalty treatment. They'll even erect a house for you 😛
 
Originally posted by: beer
Maybe this explains why their boards have the reliability of a yugo 🙂
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Aside from maybe Intel, I can't think of another motherboard brand that's as reliable.... It's sure as hell not Asus or MSI.
 
Abit had reliability problems in the early socket A days, but in the last few years, they really got their act together. If you still think Abit boards aren't stable, you haven't used any of their recent boards.

🙂
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: beer
Maybe this explains why their boards have the reliability of a yugo 🙂
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Aside from maybe Intel, I can't think of another motherboard brand that's as reliable.... It's sure as hell not Asus or MSI.
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there are plenty of brands I'd rather buy than Abit... Abit wasn't always known as good.. I've never owned one for what used to be a problem they had of reliability. not sure if it's still the same 😛 but they definitely were not always a top dog IMO!
 
My experience with various motherboards has not ben as extensive as some of you but I've used many of the big names and even a few cheep ones, and the every Abit board I have installed was and still is totally solid since day one. Not a hiccup of any kind.
 
Originally posted by: beer
Maybe this explains why their boards have the reliability of a yugo 🙂
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Maybe you got too much beer in your brain impairing your judgement.

My Abit IC7 has been nothing but Rock solid.
 
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: beer
Maybe this explains why their boards have the reliability of a yugo 🙂
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Aside from maybe Intel, I can't think of another motherboard brand that's as reliable.... It's sure as hell not Asus or MSI.
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there are plenty of brands I'd rather buy than Abit... Abit wasn't always known as good.. I've never owned one for what used to be a problem they had of reliability. not sure if it's still the same 😛 but they definitely were not always a top dog IMO!
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If you've never owned one, how can you comment?

I've owned several to fit my systems, from my first celeron 300a to my current P4-3.4, and I don't think I've ever had a problem that could be attributed to an Abit board.

And they've had SEVERAL boards that were definitely considered the very best board at the time... Including the 440bx series (BE6, BH6, and the uber-l337 dual celeron BP6) all the way to today's IS7 and IC7.

I'm not saying their track record is perfect, as nobody's really is... But it is well above most of the competition's.
 
I have 2 older boards and one new board with no problems. - The new board did need a better PS than I originally had.
 
A couple years ago Abit was using ECS to FAB their boards. Looks like they ditched that idea. Maybe I'll go back to them.
 
Originally posted by: OCedHrt
$80-$100 US in China does go a long way or so I hear. From what I hear, $100 a month in a rural area can get royalty treatment. They'll even erect a house for you 😛
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China's 2003 GDP is $1.4Trillion. That translates to $1100 annual income per capita. So $80-$100 is about average in China. But many stuff are much cheaper in China than in the US, so purchasing power parity (PPP) is higher than the raw figure.
 
Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: OCedHrt
$80-$100 US in China does go a long way or so I hear. From what I hear, $100 a month in a rural area can get royalty treatment. They'll even erect a house for you 😛
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China's 2003 GDP is $1.4Trillion. That translates to $1100 annual income per capita. So $80-$100 is about average in China. But many stuff are much cheaper in China than in the US, so purchasing power parity (PPP) is higher than the raw figure.
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Sounds like a great place to retire. Make all your money here and have annuities and SS sent to china after you retire there.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: welst10
Originally posted by: OCedHrt
$80-$100 US in China does go a long way or so I hear. From what I hear, $100 a month in a rural area can get royalty treatment. They'll even erect a house for you 😛
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China's 2003 GDP is $1.4Trillion. That translates to $1100 annual income per capita. So $80-$100 is about average in China. But many stuff are much cheaper in China than in the US, so purchasing power parity (PPP) is higher than the raw figure.
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Sounds like a great place to retire. Make all your money here and have annuities and SS sent to china after you retire there.
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there are a number of countries in the world where things are just as cheap (or cheaper) than in China, with fewer human rights violations 😉
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Abit had reliability problems in the early socket A days, but in the last few years, they really got their act together. If you still think Abit boards aren't stable, you haven't used any of their recent boards.

🙂
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No, I haven't used their recent boards. Once you get burned enough times, you don't touch the hot stove anymore. Same way with abit. I've owned 4 boards from them; 2 of them failed within two months, the other had serious stability problems that I could all but conclusively trace to the motherboard, and the fourth worked fine. Since Abit used to (maybe still?) makes you pay $20 for them to even look at your board, plus shipping, and a turnaround time of about three weeks, I haven't used them since, I believe it was the BM6 days? It was a socket370 celeron processor, 533 MHz, last itime I ever even considered an abit for a product
 
Originally posted by: beer
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Abit had reliability problems in the early socket A days, but in the last few years, they really got their act together. If you still think Abit boards aren't stable, you haven't used any of their recent boards.

🙂
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No, I haven't used their recent boards. Once you get burned enough times, you don't touch the hot stove anymore. Same way with abit. I've owned 4 boards from them; 2 of them failed within two months, the other had serious stability problems that I could all but conclusively trace to the motherboard, and the fourth worked fine. Since Abit used to (maybe still?) makes you pay $20 for them to even look at your board, plus shipping, and a turnaround time of about three weeks, I haven't used them since, I believe it was the BM6 days? It was a socket370 celeron processor, 533 MHz, last itime I ever even considered an abit for a product
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so you had a bad experience with abit a while back....

So did I, my KT7Raid was not that great,my Abit BP6 was not great either...

I feel you pain. 🙁

BUT any company has their ups & downs... after a few let downs I bought a Abit IC7 after owning a Asus P4P800 & I must say Abit is back in my good book because this board is the best I have ever had, and I had quite a few in my 20 years of fiddling in computers. .

Abit at their worse were ok,but one mobo maker I can not recommend is MSI,they have let me down time after time..... after time....
 
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: beer
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Abit had reliability problems in the early socket A days, but in the last few years, they really got their act together. If you still think Abit boards aren't stable, you haven't used any of their recent boards.

🙂
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No, I haven't used their recent boards. Once you get burned enough times, you don't touch the hot stove anymore. Same way with abit. I've owned 4 boards from them; 2 of them failed within two months, the other had serious stability problems that I could all but conclusively trace to the motherboard, and the fourth worked fine. Since Abit used to (maybe still?) makes you pay $20 for them to even look at your board, plus shipping, and a turnaround time of about three weeks, I haven't used them since, I believe it was the BM6 days? It was a socket370 celeron processor, 533 MHz, last itime I ever even considered an abit for a product
Click to expand...

so you had a bad experience with abit a while back....

So did I, my KT7Raid was not that great,my Abit BP6 was not great either...

I feel you pain. 🙁

BUT any company has their ups & downs... after a few let downs I bought a Abit IC7 after owning a Asus P4P800 & I must say Abit is back in my good book because this board is the best I have ever had, and I had quite a few in my 20 years of fiddling in computers. .

Abit at their worse were ok,but one mobo maker I can not recommend is MSI,they have let me down time after time..... after time....
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Exact same thing for me. I have an Asus P4P800 for a month or so, ironing out problems every day, and finally just exchanged it for an IC7-G. No more problems.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: beer
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Abit had reliability problems in the early socket A days, but in the last few years, they really got their act together. If you still think Abit boards aren't stable, you haven't used any of their recent boards.

🙂
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No, I haven't used their recent boards. Once you get burned enough times, you don't touch the hot stove anymore. Same way with abit. I've owned 4 boards from them; 2 of them failed within two months, the other had serious stability problems that I could all but conclusively trace to the motherboard, and the fourth worked fine. Since Abit used to (maybe still?) makes you pay $20 for them to even look at your board, plus shipping, and a turnaround time of about three weeks, I haven't used them since, I believe it was the BM6 days? It was a socket370 celeron processor, 533 MHz, last itime I ever even considered an abit for a product
Click to expand...

so you had a bad experience with abit a while back....

So did I, my KT7Raid was not that great,my Abit BP6 was not great either...

I feel you pain. 🙁

BUT any company has their ups & downs... after a few let downs I bought a Abit IC7 after owning a Asus P4P800 & I must say Abit is back in my good book because this board is the best I have ever had, and I had quite a few in my 20 years of fiddling in computers. .

Abit at their worse were ok,but one mobo maker I can not recommend is MSI,they have let me down time after time..... after time....
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Exact same thing for me. I have an Asus P4P800 for a month or so, ironing out problems every day, and finally just exchanged it for an IC7-G. No more problems.
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WOW!!!! I agree with Nebor !!!!!

😀
 
I certainly never noticed ABIT going through a spell of making bad boards.

The oldest board I have that's still useful is an ABIT BH-6 from 1998. It used to have a Celeron 300A @ 450 in it, now it's got a P3-700 @ 868 in it. I could run it faster, but it's got a sorry bunch of mixed PC66 and PC100 SDRAM running at 124 MHz already.

Makes me think of my Riva 128, paying $300 for a 128MB stick of PC66, and running the Quake 2 Massive1 demo to see how badass my Celeron was.

Many motherboards and other components have come and gone, but I think my BH-6 is the oldest piece of equipment I'm still using in any of my machines.
 
human rights? lets not bring that onto the boards - you can't govern a country that has over a billion people with democracy
 
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