Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: conjur
Free money = free ride. How much more plain can it be?
No, it's not. They incurred a cost - their parents' death. That has a very real emotional, physical, and financial cost. While it may not be a cost payable to the government it's not as though it's a "free ride". Anyone can claim this, btw, because it applies to anyone and everyone.
We also allow people under a certain income level to receive tax refunds on money they earned. That's free money, isn't it?
Everyone's gotta die sometime. The kids (well, in most cases they aren't "kids" but, rather, adults) didn't earn anything. It was the work of their parents. As I said above...give an exemption of, maybe, half a mil or so, after that, sayonara.
As for your 2nd point, it's to allow certain people to be able to afford food...not that 75' Viking yacht.
So, when my father died in a plane crash when I was eight years old, he shouldn't have been able to leave my brother, myself, and my mother money? Even though there was a mortgage, car payments, schooling, clothing, food, etc? My mother at 42(without a college degree, but my father didn't have one either) should have just gone back into workforce, made a meager salary to support two kids, sell the house and most of our things, and then just smile and say oh well we didn't earn anything when Edward was alive, so let's just be happy the government took it? WTF is that about conjur? That's some of the most asinine commentary I've ever seen you make. My father was dead, therefore he could no longer provide for his MINOR children, and a wife who was the Homemaker for those children. So, because he died, the government should just say "OUR FVCKING MONEY" and all of you in this thread should just spit at us?
You're right, I didn't do anything to earn what my father left me. All I did was be born, and I didn't ask for that. I didn't ask to be driven home by my Aunt during school and seeing cars in the driveway and thinking we were having a goddamn Christmas Party. Yeah, it was real fun to walk in and see my mother crying her eyes out, and my brother basically unable to move, while my Grandmother sat in the hospital from the stroke she had when she found out. Yeah, we didn't do anything to earn it, but the government sure as fvck didn't either, so take the bullsh!t you are spewing, and realize that not everyone who can get screwed by the estate tax is some wealthy industrialist with an apartment in Manhattan, a flat in London, and a house in Aspen.
Everyone's gotta die sometime. The kids (well, in most cases they aren't "kids" but, rather, adults) didn't earn anything. It was the work of their parents.
Yeah, everyone does have to die sometime, but it doesn't mean the government is entitled to the fruits of their labor. I'm just a typical rich kid, conjur and so is my brother. He and his wife are Public School teachers(give about 20% of their income to charity/churches as well), and I'm in College working for a theme park in IT and Finance(same RE: charities). We are just hucking it up and laughing about how we defrauded 'ole Uncle Sam. We drink nothing but bottled water, and I won't shop anywhere but Saks, I mean GOSH. I only shop there after my nice meal at an exclusive private club though. Reality is, I eat the same, drink the same, and wear the same clothes as 99% of all college students.
I guess my Father's sin was trying to provide for his family, we CERTAINLY didn't deserve to have any of his money passed on to us. Life Insurance? Screw that! Everyone dies, accident or not. Government gets that. Company was negligent? Screw that! Government DESERVES it much more than his heirs. Right? I mean that's what you were saying? Do you even think about what you post anymore, or are you out to get the Republicans and Bush so much that you've abandoned logic and fairplay just to be an asshole? I realize my argument is entirely emotional, but how would you feel if you died when your kids were young and the government took everything because "they didn't earn it." How incredibly myopic. I used to like you and thought you were a great guy, but I'm not so sure that I like you anymore or can even stomach reading your posts anymore. This is the exact reason I don't read P&N that often anymore. Some people have really degraded as human beings by being in this forum.
This is an ownership society, not a country predicated on Government ownership of people's property just because they die. Perhaps you should peruse the Constitution?
