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hal2kilo

Lifer
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The circus needs to get back in town, and get some Fn work done. 9 days folks till shutdown.
 
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Yeah, sometimes it seems to take a while for the Tweets to actually load in a thread.

Either way, the text is this:

JOHNSON says he’s considering a “laddered CR,” which would extend individual agencies budgets for different periods of time.

This would effectively create a cascade of shutdown threats

They don't show up at all for me and clicking links now brings up a login (even the URL shows its directing towards a login, but is likely a redirect). I'm guessing its because I have multiple extensions blocking ads/scripts/etc, but no way I'm disabling that for ElonMusk'sAssholeX.

Unfortunately people keep posting links with very little commentary info (such that I don't even have names/terms I can search for to find what its is about).

Thanks, I appreciate it.
 

pmv

Lifer
May 30, 2008
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I have the new speaker being a repressed homosexual at over 95%

Yeah, I don't know, but that kind of ultra-extreme puritanism really makes one wonder. A no-wanking pact with your teenage son, seems _incredibly_ weird to me. Mike Pence level weird. And does that mean this third-party 'wankguard' organization gets to see everything that he does on-line? Would that include government business?
 

balloonshark

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They don't show up at all for me and clicking links now brings up a login (even the URL shows its directing towards a login, but is likely a redirect). I'm guessing its because I have multiple extensions blocking ads/scripts/etc, but no way I'm disabling that for ElonMusk'sAssholeX.

Unfortunately people keep posting links with very little commentary info (such that I don't even have names/terms I can search for to find what its is about).

Thanks, I appreciate it.
If you have firefox and have tweaked the privacy settings you will have to allow "tracking content" to be able to see the embedded tweets on this forum. Under custom I leave the tracking content box ticked but I set it to block only in private windows (anandtech isn't running in a private window.). I hated to allow it but you can't follow any conversations in P&N without allowing it.

Edit: It still can take a while to load the tweets though which is frustrating.
 

APU_Fusion

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Is he one of those that prescribes pedophilia and homosexuality as being inherently intertwined?
Well, his wife considered homosexuality the same as bestiality and incest. Maybe the father and son are special friends eh? I mean i have heard many people say
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Well about a week until the government shuts down again.

GOP has passed none of its appropriations bills and can't agree on what kind of CR there should be or what it should contain (that the Senate is never going to agree to and that Biden is never going to sign).

New guy seems to be spinning his wheels.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Well about a week until the government shuts down again.

GOP has passed none of its appropriations bills and can't agree on what kind of CR there should be or what it should contain (that the Senate is never going to agree to and that Biden is never going to sign).

New guy seems to be spinning his wheels.
Sadly, anyone expect anything else at this point. They've got a president to indict which is way more important than getting government to work.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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We're gonna shut down. I don't see a realistic way around it at this point.
Maga Jim is going to spring into action when his rich donors start to bitch about losing $ because of the shut down.

Until then, non-essential feds get furloughed.

Also, what law says essential fed workers will be paid?
 

VRAMdemon

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Aug 16, 2012
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These clowns can't govern their way out of a wet paper bag...

There are eight days until the government shuts down and the House’s latest budget bill has failed because of a provision allowing businesses to discriminate against employees who use birth control. :rolleyes:

 
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Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Maga Jim is going to spring into action when his rich donors start to bitch about losing $ because of the shut down.

Until then, non-essential feds get furloughed.

Also, what law says essential fed workers will be paid?
We will either be furloughed or told to continue to work depending on how critical our jobs our. We won’t receive paychecks while the government is shut down. The law does state that regardless of our status during the shutdown everyone gets back pay once the government reopens. So by shutting down the government the house will give the furloughed civil servants a paid vacation.

For civil servants living paycheck to paycheck it will be painful during the shutdown but everyone will be made whole eventually. Many govt associated credit Union or banks like USAA will offer 0% interest 3 month payday loans to help members get by.

For government contractors if their contracts are forward funded then in many cases they can continue to work depending on the circumstances.
 
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JEDI

Lifer
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We will either be furloughed or told to continue to work depending on how critical our jobs our. We won’t receive paychecks while the government is shut down.
The law does state that regardless of our status during the shutdown everyone gets back pay once the government reopens. So by shutting down the government the house will give the furloughed civil servants a paid vacation.

wait.. in the past, non-essential fed employees were only paid because when the finally passed the budget (or CR), it said non-essentials get backpay.

now there's a new law saying non-essentials auto back pay?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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wait.. in the past, non-essential fed employees were only paid because when the finally passed the budget (or CR), it said non-essentials get backpay.

now there's a new law saying non-essentials auto back pay?
Yep, it happened one or two shutdowns ago. It makes shutdowns even dumber, pure theater at taxpayer expense.
 

Paratus

Lifer
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wait.. in the past, non-essential fed employees were only paid because when the finally passed the budget (or CR), it said non-essentials get backpay.

now there's a new law saying non-essentials auto back pay?
In the past decade everyone got back pay, but if you were non-essential it was up to congress to decide each time they would provide back pay. More recently they passed a law simply stating they will do what they had done each time which was provide back pay.
 

JEDI

Lifer
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In the past decade everyone got back pay, but if you were non-essential it was up to congress to decide each time they would provide back pay. More recently they passed a law simply stating they will do what they had done each time which was provide back pay.
damn it.
back in the 90's, i had to decide whether to be a fed in an IT dept (GS 12 grade) or a IT contractor.
contractor paid more.

2yrs later, almost 1/2 the feds in my dept jumped ship to other agencies to be GS 13.
(GS15 is top of the fed pay scale and that's usually reserved for Branch chiefs/dept heads)
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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damn it.
back in the 90's, i had to decide whether to be a fed in an IT dept (GS 12 grade) or a IT contractor.
contractor paid more.

2yrs later, almost 1/2 the feds in my dept jumped ship to other agencies to be GS 13.
(GS15 is top of the fed pay scale and that's usually reserved for Branch chiefs/dept heads)
I’m well acquainted with the GS scale as both my wife and I are on it. ;)

I started as a contractor but when I changed contractors and left, my old group ended up so short handed they threw me a civil servant slot to come back. At that time, at my agency being a CS was a better deal than contractor.

My wife on the other hand hired in directly as a civil servant after I mentioned to my second level government boss she was interested in working here too. So she’s got like 9 years of seniority on me even though I started 6 months before her.

Shutdowns suck for us because we’ll both be without a paycheck while it’s going on. That being said we have money saved up and payday loan options from our bank.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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I’m well acquainted with the GS scale as both my wife and I are on it. ;)

I started as a contractor but when I changed contractors and left, my old group ended up so short handed they threw me a civil servant slot to come back. At that time, at my agency being a CS was a better deal than contractor.

My wife on the other hand hired in directly as a civil servant after I mentioned to my second level government boss she was interested in working here too. So she’s got like 9 years of seniority on me even though I started 6 months before her.

Shutdowns suck for us because we’ll both be without a paycheck while it’s going on. That being said we have money saved up and payday loan options from our bank.

Contractor here, but we're fully funded so we keep working.

And GS15 isn't the highest the scale goes. You have SES beyond that.

I'd never jump over because the scale wouldn't match even if I was confirmed as SecDef.
 

fskimospy

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I’m well acquainted with the GS scale as both my wife and I are on it. ;)

I started as a contractor but when I changed contractors and left, my old group ended up so short handed they threw me a civil servant slot to come back. At that time, at my agency being a CS was a better deal than contractor.

My wife on the other hand hired in directly as a civil servant after I mentioned to my second level government boss she was interested in working here too. So she’s got like 9 years of seniority on me even though I started 6 months before her.

Shutdowns suck for us because we’ll both be without a paycheck while it’s going on. That being said we have money saved up and payday loan options from our bank.
This is a big reason why I've never considered taking a federal job - once every few years or so you're basically guaranteed to stop getting paid for a while.

I have to assume at least some people in Congress realize how damaging this is for the ability of the feds to recruit a strong workforce, although I imagine the Republicans view this as a feature and not a bug.
 
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