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matt0611

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I can't believe you agree w/ liberals. Disgusting. Just because some activists judges on the supreme court said it was constitutional doesn't make it so, right? I mean that's like believing what biologists say about Darwinism just because they're scientists!



No! Only things that are actually good for the country. The military. Wars. Faith based groups. Business incentives. Stuff like that.



Just ask yourself "is this something a liberal would be for?" If the answer is yes, then it's unconstitutional.



I never conceded anything of the sort, you did. As far as I'm concerned the ferderal government is far to powerful and has to be stopped.

National Public Radio is just one clear example of how the federal government is stealing power away from the states and violating the Tenth Amendment.


Lol, you think you know my views, but you're wrong troll. I don't support the current wars, funding of faith based groups, subsides to oil companies etc
Nice try troll.

NPR is just one clear example of something thats a complete waste of taxpayer money and is something thats easy to cut.
 

comptr6

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Lol, you think you know my views, but you're wrong troll. I don't support the current wars, funding of faith based groups, subsides to oil companies etc
Nice try troll.

You're just another libtard in disguise. The best you can do is insult our men and women in uniform and call me a troll.

NPR is just one clear example of something thats a complete waste of taxpayer money and is something thats easy to cut.

Because it's unconstitutional, right?
 

matt0611

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You're just another libtard in disguise. The best you can do is insult our men and women in uniform and call me a troll.



Because it's unconstitutional, right?


Because its a waste of taxpayer dollars in addition to being unconstitutional.
 

werepossum

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NAZI public radio? M'kay . . .

Didn't watch the video - my rule is that wisdom is never found on Youtube, and anyway people (especially myself) speak terribly slowly compared to my reading - so I'll just have to imagine how low they'll sink.

Not so fast! The fairies and storks and senate toads have yet to weigh in.
:D
 

comptr6

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NAZI public radio? M'kay . . .

Didn't watch the video - my rule is that wisdom is never found on Youtube, and anyway people (especially myself) speak terribly slowly compared to my reading - so I'll just have to imagine how low they'll sink.


:D

Saving the country is funny to you libtard? :rolleyes:

Another liberal traitor tries to justify NPR, this time by insulting the sacrifices made by our men and women in uniform in Afghanistan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YesT05qIBbc&t=2m22s
 

Harvey

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Fixed your title for you. No need to thank me. :cool:

All I can say is it's about time they did something about the liberal propaganda mouthpiece NaziPublicRadio. What happens to the bill now, does it become law?

If that's all you can say, you don't have much to say, and everything you do say is dead ass wrong.

Start with telling us how you come to define NPR as "Nazi."

How the fsck old are you? Did you graduate from grammar school? :confused:

Somehow, I doubt you have the education, let alone the maturity to have a clue what the word means beyond misusing it as a generalized scare word.

And if your only sources of input about events are those dumbass links in your sig, it's a certainty you're... looking polite words... ummm... informationally and intellectually challenged. :thumbsdown:
 
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werepossum

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Saving the country is funny to you libtard? :rolleyes:

Another liberal traitor tries to justify NPR, this time by insulting the sacrifices made by our men and women in uniform in Afghanistan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YesT05qIBbc&t=2m22s
I actually have more conservative positions than liberal, I'm a registered Republican, and I tend to vote almost exclusively Republican between President and local. I even spurned my usual Libertarian voting for the last two Presidential elections to vote for the Republican candidate as being slightly less unpleasant and scary than the Democrat candidate, at the risk of being unable to say my usual "It's not MY fault, I didn't vote for him". To wit, see my signature, which at least roughly places me on the right of the progressive-conservative scale. But seriously, Nazi Public Radio? I do not on principle think that NPR should be funded by government. But NPR is actually one of the better news outlets, with a bias in thinking but making an honest effort to present accurate news. You could place it as the left's version of the CNBC if you wish. Eliminating public funding for NPR may be a very small step in returning government to its proper domain, but it is hardly saving the country, and to give it such importance dooms us to die (politically) entangled in the minutia of government.

Beyond that, their socialism is not numbered among the salient and defining features of the Nazis. With the royalists and other conservatives in major disarray after the Great War, the National Socialists' greatest and only serious political competitor in interwar Germany was not the right, but the farther left, the Communists, who were decidedly NOT nationalist but rather took orders from Moscow and, immediately after the Great War, were the only political movement with any cohesiveness, organization, and momentum. (A good number of the seeds of World War II were sewn by the German communists; Germany accepted that it had not won the war, but it didn't accept that it had necessarily LOST the war until the Communist riots called away the German army for domestic control, allowing the imposition on a weakened Germany of the very harsh terms of the Treat of Peace.) A great many if not most Nazi supporters initially came for the nationalism (to erase the shame of the Great War and preserve German autonomy) and only stayed for the socialism, of which they received a smaller portion than they received of fascism. Even such socialism as the German people received came with some very non-leftist things, like an abolition of unions and an end to tolerance of minorities and homosexuals (except within the Nazi Party.) As leftist as was the National Socialist German Workers Party agenda, it still represented the right of the interwar German political spectrum, not the left which was represented by the Communists. The traditional right, the royalists and conservatives, simply had no political power at the time.

But even if you cast aside all that, and cast aside NPR's very mild socialist overtones, the Nazis' most salient and defining features are their extreme nationalism and their murderous xenophobia, with fascism coming in the second tier and socialism/liberalism barely making the top ten. Comparing anybody to Nazis except with respect to murderous nationalism and xenophobia instantly and totally undercuts any points you might make.
 

piasabird

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Lets split some hairs????

So some people are kindler, gentler, communists, socialists, marxists, and Nazi's?

So they smile while they are stabbing you in the back and taking everything you own or earn.
 

comptr6

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I actually have more conservative positions than liberal, I'm a registered Republican, and I tend to vote almost exclusively Republican between President and local. I even spurned my usual Libertarian voting for the last two Presidential elections to vote for the Republican candidate as being slightly less unpleasant and scary than the Democrat candidate, at the risk of being unable to say my usual "It's not MY fault, I didn't vote for him". To wit, see my signature, which at least roughly places me on the right of the progressive-conservative scale. But seriously, Nazi Public Radio? I do not on principle think that NPR should be funded by government. But NPR is actually one of the better news outlets, with a bias in thinking but making an honest effort to present accurate news. You could place it as the left's version of the CNBC if you wish. Eliminating public funding for NPR may be a very small step in returning government to its proper domain, but it is hardly saving the country, and to give it such importance dooms us to die (politically) entangled in the minutia of government.

Beyond that, their socialism is not numbered among the salient and defining features of the Nazis. With the royalists and other conservatives in major disarray after the Great War, the National Socialists' greatest and only serious political competitor in interwar Germany was not the right, but the farther left, the Communists, who were decidedly NOT nationalist but rather took orders from Moscow and, immediately after the Great War, were the only political movement with any cohesiveness, organization, and momentum. (A good number of the seeds of World War II were sewn by the German communists; Germany accepted that it had not won the war, but it didn't accept that it had necessarily LOST the war until the Communist riots called away the German army for domestic control, allowing the imposition on a weakened Germany of the very harsh terms of the Treat of Peace.) A great many if not most Nazi supporters initially came for the nationalism (to erase the shame of the Great War and preserve German autonomy) and only stayed for the socialism, of which they received a smaller portion than they received of fascism. Even such socialism as the German people received came with some very non-leftist things, like an abolition of unions and an end to tolerance of minorities and homosexuals (except within the Nazi Party.) As leftist as was the National Socialist German Workers Party agenda, it still represented the right of the interwar German political spectrum, not the left which was represented by the Communists. The traditional right, the royalists and conservatives, simply had no political power at the time.

But even if you cast aside all that, and cast aside NPR's very mild socialist overtones, the Nazis' most salient and defining features are their extreme nationalism and their murderous xenophobia, with fascism coming in the second tier and socialism/liberalism barely making the top ten. Comparing anybody to Nazis except with respect to murderous nationalism and xenophobia instantly and totally undercuts any points you might make.

Nope. They're Nazis.

"They are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left wing of Nazism. These guys don't want any other point of view. They don't even feel guilty using tax dollars to spout their propaganda. They are basically Air America with government funding to keep them alive."


-Roger Ailes speaking about NPR executives

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werepossum

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Nope. They're Nazis.

"They are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left wing of Nazism. These guys don't want any other point of view. They don't even feel guilty using tax dollars to spout their propaganda. They are basically Air America with government funding to keep them alive."


-Roger Ailes speaking about NPR executives

SNIP​

I spend more than half of my television news viewing on FoxNews, and I'll defend it when I think it's warranted, but FoxNews is as far right as NPR is left even in the hard news coverage. And for the same reason - when you get a great preponderance of one viewpoint, whether the right in FoxNews management or left in virtually every other news network, that viewpoint becomes the center for you, reinforced by almost everyone with whom you regularly interact. All the other viewpoints you encounter are outliers to that viewpoint. Bias is inevitable. Outside of hard news, the only difference in opinion pieces between FoxNews and NPR is that most of FoxNews' commentators openly admit their bias, whereas NPR (at least until this kerfuffle) did not.

As to Ailes' quote, that only proves that he's willing to go much farther than is Schiller. It adds nothing to the credibility of the charges. Rather it merely diminishes Ailes' own credibility.

Funny cartoons though.​
 

jackschmittusa

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Arguing that funding NPR is unconstitutional is pretty silly.

The Federal government has contributed to the general welfare in so many ways not specifically mentioned in the Constitution it would be hard to enumerate them all, and many have stood the test of time as being legal.

A few examples:

roads and bridges

safe and seaworthy private and commercial vessels under U.S. flag

electrification of rural America

safe food, water, and drugs

disaster relief

GPS

laws and funding to prevent/thwart Ponzi schemes, false advertising, more "Love Canals"

Just because it is not spelled out in the Constitution is a poor argument against it. You would be better served trying to show how it does not serve the general welfare if you can.
 

werepossum

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LOL Undoubtedly. I've been kicked off of Hannity.com and Lucianne.com; the hard right tolerates dissent no more than does the hard left - which is aggravating since I have positions on both the hard right and the hard left. I am not a creature of the middle. I'm no country club Republican though.
 

Jaskalas

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LOL Undoubtedly. I've been kicked off of Hannity.com and Lucianne.com; the hard right tolerates dissent no more than does the hard left - which is aggravating since I have positions on both the hard right and the hard left. I am not a creature of the middle. I'm no country club Republican though.

This is why the Tea Party is a joke. If it meant anything at all, they'd crush the likes of Hannity.
 

Harvey

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Nope. They're Nazis.

"They are, of course, Nazis. They have a kind of Nazi attitude. They are the left wing of Nazism. These guys don't want any other point of view. They don't even feel guilty using tax dollars to spout their propaganda. They are basically Air America with government funding to keep them alive."


-Roger Ailes speaking about NPR executives​


Roger Ailes is closer to a nazi propogandist than anything you could imagine in your warped, feeble mind, but you probably wouldn't know, let alone understand, that because, as I said, I doubt that you paid enough attention to history in grade school, let whether you have the intellectual capacity to comprehend what the word, "nazi" really means.

His cohort in crime, Karl Rove is another master of "The Big Lie," which is often attributed to Hitler's propoganda minister, Joseph Goebbels.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

You're trying, but you're just a mindless pathetic little fear and hate mongering troll echoing the malignant words of criminals who pimped our nation into a war of lies in Iraq, pimped acts of torture and other gross crimes against humanity, abanoned all oversight of Wall Street robber barons while they plunged our nation into recession, spread sexual, racial and religious fear and hatred among our citizens. They lied, they lied, and they lied again, and they had the timerity to pimp their lies in the name of their dumb ass deity.

Like Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, Scott Walker, and the rest of the brain dead jackasses listed in your sig, the paucity of facts and the constant harangue of mindless fear words in your posts suggest you wouldn't know a nazi from a communist, or a Communist, anymore than you would know your ass from that hole in the ground you keep digging for yourself. :rolleyes:

Go home and practice, little boy. :hmm:​
 
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CallMeJoe

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Amused am I to see both Harvey and ol'possum so effectively trolled by such a transparent parody.

Unfortunately, that's about the only amusement to be found in comptr6. Improve your game or give it up.
 

thraashman

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LOL Undoubtedly. I've been kicked off of Hannity.com and Lucianne.com; the hard right tolerates dissent no more than does the hard left - which is aggravating since I have positions on both the hard right and the hard left. I am not a creature of the middle. I'm no country club Republican though.

The funny thing is the werepossum here is one of the only righties I'll defend. I disagree with most things he posts as I am firmly on the left and he is clearly on the right. But he's also one of the most reasonible posters in P&N on any side. Even when I disagree with him he's willing to be reasonible and open. So it's funny to see people on the far right attack him.

Though I think that there is a much smaller population of the far left in this country than there is the far right. I think the Fox News culture has made most of the right in this country into the FAR right, and the Republican party has over the last 15 years or so drifted further and further right. So as a result dissent is less tolerated on the right because people who are only center right appear to them as leftists.

I think the far Left is a minority of the left and not a very vocal one. I think that's because those on the left don't tend to be pushed further left by leftist media. I seriously couldn't tell you if NPR was slight left biased, heavy left bias, or no bias at all because I've never once listened to them. Partly because I would never listen to biased radio, partly because it's radio and who listens to radio anymore?

Closest I've come to watching biased media is Daily Show and Colbert Report. But while they do have a left bias, they're very willing to take shots at the base that watches them. And both shows give a huge amount of respect to their guests from both sides of the fence. I can't sit through anything on Fox News because their pundits are downright rude to their guests who they don't agree with and do their best to cut them off and talk over them.
 

matt0611

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Arguing that funding NPR is unconstitutional is pretty silly.

The Federal government has contributed to the general welfare in so many ways not specifically mentioned in the Constitution it would be hard to enumerate them all, and many have stood the test of time as being legal.

A few examples:

roads and bridges

safe and seaworthy private and commercial vessels under U.S. flag

electrification of rural America

safe food, water, and drugs

disaster relief

GPS

laws and funding to prevent/thwart Ponzi schemes, false advertising, more "Love Canals"

Just because it is not spelled out in the Constitution is a poor argument against it. You would be better served trying to show how it does not serve the general welfare if you can.


What does the government do that is not (at least in argument) for the benefit of the general welfare? Can you give some examples?

What powers are reserved for the states in the 10th amendment?

The constitution already enumerates all the powers.

So it spells out that the federal government has the power to establish post offices and post roads...why? Its obviously for the general welfare, why mention this?

Why bother to list any powers at all?
I guess it should have just said congress has the power to write laws for the common good. Nice and short.

Why didn't our founders fund a national news paper service with federal tax dollars?


Whatever, I'm done, I made my peace, I'm not going to convince anyone. Keep funding everything you guys want.
 
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thraashman

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Amused am I to see both Harvey and ol'possum so effectively trolled by such a transparent parody.

Unfortunately, that's about the only amusement to be found in comptr6. Improve your game or give it up.

One of my biggest fears on this board is that comptr6 isn't a parody. Because it would be truly scary is someone out there actually thought like that. Movie monsters and comic book super villians are more rational.