House Passes 1/6 Commission

[fskimospy]

It is very fucked up behavior. In Arizona - Video panel trucks were accusing Bowers of being a pedophile, and the strain of all of this adversely affecting his ill daughter. That’s the strain on his personal life. For what it’s worth, Bowers’s daughter was terminally ill and passed away at age 42 on January 28, 2021. Put that date in context.

But, even ignoring that, Bowers knows Trump is a liar and a cheat. And Bowers himself could not bring himself to “win by cheating”. He knows Trump will do this again, But he’ll STILL vote for Trump AGAIN. If Trump got elected he’d be carrying out the same winning by cheating that Bowers deplores.

They would vote for Trump over any other Democrat, said Bill Barr. Even more incredibly, so would Mike Pence! When asked if they would vote for Trump again, they could easily take a diplomatic way out by simply saying “I will do everything I can to ensure the Republican Party nominates a suitable candidate,” or “I may just sit that one out,” and leave it at that. I understand how steeped these people are in strict conservative dogma, but saying out loud that you will vote for a guy who sent a mob, with the intention of murdering you in broad daylight, is beyond any rational explanation. The only explanation may be that they are insane.

Or he's lying because there's no penalty for doing so as no one will ever know and potentially a lot to gain in Republican electoral politics.

 

[hal2kilo]

I guess this is the appropriate place. The subject of the article has always been in my mind as to why the Republicans could not believe the results and instantly went to racist projectionism.

Shaye Moss' ordeal and the Texas GOP platform: Trump's Big Lie was always about white supremacy | Salon.com

The Big Lie, like Trump's birtherism, reflects his refusal to accept that people of color are legitimate Americans

 

[Saylick]

I guess this is the appropriate place. The subject of the article has always been in my mind as to why the Republicans could not believe the results and instantly went to racist projectionism.

Shaye Moss' ordeal and the Texas GOP platform: Trump's Big Lie was always about white supremacy | Salon.com

The Big Lie, like Trump's birtherism, reflects his refusal to accept that people of color are legitimate Americans

Americans??? He doesn't even accept that they are legitimate people!

 

[gothuevos]

It is very fucked up behavior. In Arizona - Video panel trucks were accusing Bowers of being a pedophile, and the strain of all of this adversely affecting his ill daughter. That’s the strain on his personal life. For what it’s worth, Bowers’s daughter was terminally ill and passed away at age 42 on January 28, 2021. Put that date in context.

But, even ignoring that, Bowers knows Trump is a liar and a cheat. And Bowers himself could not bring himself to “win by cheating”. He knows Trump will do this again, But he’ll STILL vote for Trump AGAIN. If Trump got elected he’d be carrying out the same winning by cheating that Bowers deplores.

They would vote for Trump over any other Democrat, said Bill Barr. Even more incredibly, so would Mike Pence! When asked if they would vote for Trump again, they could easily take a diplomatic way out by simply saying “I will do everything I can to ensure the Republican Party nominates a suitable candidate,” or “I may just sit that one out,” and leave it at that. I understand how steeped these people are in strict conservative dogma, but saying out loud that you will vote for a guy who sent a mob, with the intention of murdering you in broad daylight, is beyond any rational explanation. The only explanation may be that they are insane.

Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[gothuevos]

Again I marvel at your confidence in your ability to predict outcomes years away when you couldn't predict them hours away.

I guess my appeal to even a small amount of humility on your part fell on deaf ears.

I will gladly and happily eat crow if that is the case.

 

[fskimospy]

I will gladly and happily eat crow if that is the case.

I doubt that. Last time you just switched to 'okay but NOW we're doomed'.

 

[MrSquished]

I doubt that. Last time you just switched to 'okay but NOW we're doomed'.

Things are becoming worse though, this is a fact. The Republican party has nominated insane people for all sorts of positions all over the country, such as Secretary of States down to county and city level foks and others involved with elections. They are 100% being more organized in setting the stage to overthrow democracy. It may not be for Trump, though it might, but they'll do it for DeSantis just as fast.

 

[fskimospy]

Things are becoming worse though, this is a fact. The Republican party has nominated insane people for all sorts of positions all over the country, such as Secretary of States down to county and city level foks and others involved with elections. They are 100% being more organized in setting the stage to overthrow democracy. It may not be for Trump, though it might, but they'll do it for DeSantis just as fast.

I agree things are getting worse and the Republican Party is a direct threat to democracy. If you want to fight that though engaging in nonsensical hysterics is not helpful.

Just the other day he said he thought Republicans would win more than 100% of open senate seats in 2022 and impeach and remove Biden and Harris to seize power. Even if you think the general thrust of his concern is true, and I do, the only answer to that is ‘you are insane’.

 

[cytg111]

Like I said I think it’s unlikely Trump will be the nominee in 2024 for multiple reasons. First he will likely be under indictment then but also it’s very clear Republican interest in him is waning, just as I predicted.

Yep, you are going up against Musk endorsed DeSantis aka SmartTrump(tm)

 

[fskimospy]

Yep, you are going up against Musk endorsed DeSantis aka SmartTrump(tm)

DeSantis is the most likely candidate as of now but there’s still a lot of time for a scandal to derail him, etc. That’s my point - predicting these things with a high degree of accuracy is very difficult.

 

[MrSquished]

I agree things are getting worse and the Republican Party is a direct threat to democracy. If you want to fight that though engaging in nonsensical hysterics is not helpful.

Just the other day he said he thought Republicans would win more than 100% of open senate seats in 2022 and impeach and remove Biden and Harris to seize power. Even if you think the general thrust of his concern is true, and I do, the only answer to that is ‘you are insane’.

I actually think the Dems have a shot to gain a seat or two in the Senate, no more than that. The House is not looking good but still quite a few months to go, anything can happen to motivate the Democratic base. It doesn't happen often in the midterms but count nothing outl.

 

[MrSquished]

DeSantis is the most likely candidate as of now but there’s still a lot of time for a scandal to derail him, etc. That’s my point - predicting these things with a high degree of accuracy is very difficult.

It's very difficult. Nobody predicted Bill Clinton would win the Dem nomination, Obama came out of nowhere to take it away from Hilary, and then Trump was laughed at in 2016 but he made being racist out loud ok, and that excited the shittiness that is the Republican base, finally a guy who would say the shitty stuff out loud they all felt.

 

[cytg111]

DeSantis is the most likely candidate as of now but there’s still a lot of time for a scandal to derail him, etc. That’s my point - predicting these things with a high degree of accuracy is very difficult.

Totally, we're talking the outer right side of the bell curve of what "might be DeSantis 2024", yet we've seen enough to not play down even the outer most 2%... cause that 2% will be the difference between "you fill in the gaps"......... 2% is a very uncomfortable number.

 

[soundforbjt]

I’m guessing Youngkin if DeSantis falters.

Also Senator Skelator is planning on running as well.

 

[DaaQ]

I’m guessing Youngkin if DeSantis falters.

Also Senator Skelator is planning on running as well.

Sorry I have to ask, who is senator Skeletor?

 

[Pens1566]

I’m guessing Youngkin if DeSantis falters.

Also Senator Skelator is planning on running as well.

Think Youngkin is really unlikely. Even in terms of your typical pre-cycle dark horse.

Haley, Noem, Pence, Cruz are all more likely. Even Donnie Jr. if something prevents daddy from running with some kind of martyr/vengeance crusade fueled by cocaine and donations stolen from the elderly.

edit: Cotton and Hawley are in there as well. So is Abbot, but he's just a lesser version of DeSantis that gets better gas mileage.

 

[eelw]

I think if Larry Hogan throws his name in, he’ll get all the sane Republican votes. But sadly that group smaller than the Repugican party

 

[Pens1566]

I think if Larry Hogan throws his name in, he’ll get all the sane Republican votes. But sadly that group smaller than the Repugican party

That doesn't get you the nom anymore. Sadly. If it did, him or Hutchinson would be leading.

 

[alien42]

Let's not derail this thread with 2024 presidential predictions. If there's not already a thread for that, than make a new one.

 

[ch33zw1z]

A GOP senator got caught pretending to be on his phone to avoid questions about the Jan. 6 insurrection

Sen. Ron Johnson held his phone to his ear while leaving the U.S. Capitol, but reporters noticed he was not really on a call.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[soundforbjt]

Sorry I have to ask, who is senator Skeletor?

Rick Scott.

 

[woolfe9998]

uh, so it's the same guy that had Proud Boys access on those days, too.

lol, like, wtf.

These dipwits in the Oval Office hired a professional documentary team to literally film their treason and the creation of the new Trumpland. They have got these guys in with Torrio and the whole shebang. This is effing nuts.

Trump and Miller and Meadows (Flynn and likely Giuliani, as well) were creating the required film for 3-6th civic education, over the next ~50-80 years or so, within their new regime.

Pretty sure the filmmaker who was embedded with the Proud Boys was a different guy named Nick Quested.

'What the F-ck Is This?': Team Trump Blindsided by Jan. 6 Committee Getting Doc Footage

The Jan. 6 committee subpoenaed filmmaker Alex Holder, who says he had significant access to Trump and his family around the 2020 election.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[VirtualNinja]

You probably shouldn't be bringing up the word 'purge' on your first post, lest people think you're a bot trying to rile people up.

I know it was blunt and direct, but all these inquiries and committoes where people sit around and talk about it with zero action and doing nought to stop what has been in plan for some time. You have wife's of a supreme court justices involved, it's a cancer and you guy have to cut it out, or your democaracy is going to be gone.

Given recent global events the world needs a functioning USA to keep other powers in check.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I know it was blunt and direct, but all these inquiries and committoes where people sit around and talk about it with zero action and doing nought to stop what has been in plan for some time. You have wife's of a supreme court justices involved, it's a cancer and you guy have to cut it out, or your democaracy is going to be gone.

Given recent global events the world needs a functioning USA to keep other powers in check.

Purges are how you end up with dictators. We don't purge; we point, shame, call out, ostracize from culture, and occasionally push to suicide, but we don't purge.

 

[fskimospy]

Rick Scott.

Rick Scott is much more of a Bat Boy than a Skeletor.