House Panel cites Karl Rove for contempt.

[Lemon law]

Belatedly, the US house of Representatives finally got around to citing Karl Rove for his July 10, 2008 no show.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...gQm047SAWdpqua1ECs0NUE



And now in September, Nancy Pelosi might even allow the house panel vote to come up for a vote in the full house? Just in time for congress to adjourn for the fall 2008 elections with no chance that this constitutional issue will ever being tested in court.

As a partisan democrat, Nancy Pelosi disgusts me, grow some courage or our constitution will be kaput. Replaced by a dictatorship of the executive, exactly what our founding fathers feared in a king.

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Common Courtesy

 

[DealMonkey]

Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself.

He can't.

He's that bold.

You mean, he's that corrupt and disrespectful of the rule of law.

 

[Butterbean]

Just the usual attempt by Dems to create show trials to keep their neo Marxist money-masters at MoveOn happy (except Soros who doesnt smile anymore it looks like. A perfect casting for Dr Demento)

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

I know i should keep my trap shut until Blair is in jail but seriously, you got some laws to prevent this and if it happens, you could charge him and slam him so hard even i would be uncomfortable with the pork flying (and i love pork).

See, the Italians are getting themselves the same kind of shit and Berlusconi is definently worse than most general mob twats, but the US of A?

We wouldn't stand for it and neither should you my friend, fuck him up.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Just the usual attempt by Dems to create show trials to keep their neo Marxist money-masters at MoveOn happy (except Soros who doesnt smile anymore it looks like. A perfect casting for Dr Demento)

Go away Nazi boy.

 

[Lemon law]

JOS, do you really think the USA and the EU still rules the world? How 19'th century of you. Yes I am from the USA, but I would prefer some stop the bleeding rather to go down the drain stupid.

 

[techs]

Karl Rove will definitely get a pardon from Bush.
I say jail him asap so he can at least spend some time in slammer.
Rove is one of Americas true domestic enemies.

 

[Double Trouble]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

I'm not a lawyer or constitutional scholar or anything, but I can't imagine you could pardon someone for any crimes he might have committed. I thought one could only be pardoned for crimes he/she is charged with? Anyone got any solid info on that one, I'm curious.

On topic: the dems are just showing that they are no better than the repubs, it's all about show and image, but in the end they don't have the balls to haul some of these criminals like Rove, Hadley etc into court, indict & convict them and put them in the slammer.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
Just the usual attempt by Dems to create show trials to keep their neo Marxist money-masters at MoveOn happy (except Soros who doesnt smile anymore it looks like. A perfect casting for Dr Demento)

You make less sense with each post. Your parody sucks now. Try a new angle.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: Double Trouble
I'm not a lawyer or constitutional scholar or anything, but I can't imagine you could pardon someone for any crimes he might have committed. I thought one could only be pardoned for crimes he/she is charged with? Anyone got any solid info on that one, I'm curious.
On topic: the dems are just showing that they are no better than the repubs, it's all about show and image, but in the end they don't have the balls to haul some of these criminals like Rove, Hadley etc into court, indict & convict them and put them in the slammer.

Preemptive pardons are legal. The most famous example: Nixon was never charged with any crimes before Ford pardoned him.

I also would like to see TurdBlossom arrested by the House Sergeant at Arms while he is still accountable, and see W forced to pardon him ahead of schedule.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Double Trouble

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

I'm not a lawyer or constitutional scholar or anything, but I can't imagine you could pardon someone for any crimes he might have committed. I thought one could only be pardoned for crimes he/she is charged with? Anyone got any solid info on that one, I'm curious.

On topic: the dems are just showing that they are no better than the repubs, it's all about show and image, but in the end they don't have the balls to haul some of these criminals like Rove, Hadley etc into court, indict & convict them and put them in the slammer.

No shit? i'm a Captain of the UKAF's special division and apparently i know more than you (considering that i am Briish and have been away from most news a long time, it is strange)

Of course the president has any chance of pardoning anyone even before they were charged, AND HAS DONE SO!


Son, these members of the current Admin along with Blair should be in the slammer for life, tell me ONE positive thing that has come out of the destruction of Iraq and i might change my mind, ONE.

I'm in Afghanistan and 100k+ troops in the REAL war against terrorist has been needed for YEARS.

If you don't have an answer, the kindly shut the FUCK up.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield


No shit? i'm a Captain of the UKAF's special division

What does that have to do with anything? But I will admit you have the biggest e-penis here for sure.


tell me ONE positive thing that has come out of the destruction of Iraq and i might change my mind, ONE.

No more Saddam.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

I know i should keep my trap shut until Blair is in jail but seriously, you got some laws to prevent this and if it happens, you could charge him and slam him so hard even i would be uncomfortable with the pork flying (and i love pork).

See, the Italians are getting themselves the same kind of shit and Berlusconi is definently worse than most general mob twats, but the US of A?

We wouldn't stand for it and neither should you my friend, fuck him up.

I'm no expert but here's what's written

The President ... shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

That's pretty sweeping. Perhaps it's just paranoia, but this Administration has pushed things to the absolute limit. Why stop now?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield


No shit? i'm a Captain of the UKAF's special division

What does that have to do with anything? But I will admit you have the biggest e-penis here for sure.


tell me ONE positive thing that has come out of the destruction of Iraq and i might change my mind, ONE.

No more Saddam.

1. i brought it up because i wanted to let the poser know that i am not an American, k, huggies, bye.

2. That is a positive thing, he was the only one in the neighberhood who we could reason with, now there are 50+ groupos of insurgents, this is an improvement in your deranged mind? Or have you just been listening to Rush a bit too often and it has rotted your brain?


I seriously don't give a fuck, i really really don't. That you are a retarded piece of shit ou have shown to me endlessly, so unless you want to amuse the other posters further by ridiculing yourself even more,l i really don't give a fuck.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

I know i should keep my trap shut until Blair is in jail but seriously, you got some laws to prevent this and if it happens, you could charge him and slam him so hard even i would be uncomfortable with the pork flying (and i love pork).

See, the Italians are getting themselves the same kind of shit and Berlusconi is definently worse than most general mob twats, but the US of A?

We wouldn't stand for it and neither should you my friend, fuck him up.

I'm no expert but here's what's written

The President ... shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

That's pretty sweeping. Perhaps it's just paranoia, but this Administration has pushed things to the absolute limit. Why stop now?

It has to go, it really has to go.

It's been a big thing that the Italians have added immunity which is a LOT less sweeping than that.

In Britain, we don't have that, at all, if the Prime Minister is charged with a crime, hes' charged like anyone else is charged.

Now i know and acknowledge that these words are for the good of the power that is, not the power of the people, you know that too, this has to be challenged somehow, it has to.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield


No shit? i'm a Captain of the UKAF's special division

What does that have to do with anything? But I will admit you have the biggest e-penis here for sure.


tell me ONE positive thing that has come out of the destruction of Iraq and i might change my mind, ONE.

No more Saddam.

1. i brought it up because i wanted to let the poser know that i am not an American, k, huggies, bye.

2. That is a positive thing, he was the only one in the neighberhood who we could reason with, now there are 50+ groupos of insurgents, this is an improvement in your deranged mind? Or have you just been listening to Rush a bit too often and it has rotted your brain?


I seriously don't give a fuck, i really really don't. That you are a retarded piece of shit ou have shown to me endlessly, so unless you want to amuse the other posters further by ridiculing yourself even more,l i really don't give a fuck.

"Blah blah blah...I'm in SAS...blah blah blah....I post from afghanistan..."; your rhetoric is tiresome. Not every thread is in perpetual need of this tripe.

 

[Double Trouble]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Double Trouble

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

I'm not a lawyer or constitutional scholar or anything, but I can't imagine you could pardon someone for any crimes he might have committed. I thought one could only be pardoned for crimes he/she is charged with? Anyone got any solid info on that one, I'm curious.

On topic: the dems are just showing that they are no better than the repubs, it's all about show and image, but in the end they don't have the balls to haul some of these criminals like Rove, Hadley etc into court, indict & convict them and put them in the slammer.

No shit? i'm a Captain of the UKAF's special division and apparently i know more than you (considering that i am Briish and have been away from most news a long time, it is strange)

Considering that I'm not from the US at all, it's not so strange.

Son, these members of the current Admin along with Blair should be in the slammer for life, tell me ONE positive thing that has come out of the destruction of Iraq and i might change my mind, ONE.

I'm in Afghanistan and 100k+ troops in the REAL war against terrorist has been needed for YEARS.

If you don't have an answer, the kindly shut the FUCK up.

Don't call me "son", I'm very likely older than you. I asked a question, get off your high horse, I don't give a shit if you're in Afghanistan or Uzbekistan, I don't give a shit if you're in the special forces or a special ed student, you still come off like a jackass.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield


No shit? i'm a Captain of the UKAF's special division

What does that have to do with anything? But I will admit you have the biggest e-penis here for sure.


tell me ONE positive thing that has come out of the destruction of Iraq and i might change my mind, ONE.

No more Saddam.

1. i brought it up because i wanted to let the poser know that i am not an American, k, huggies, bye.

2. That is a positive thing, he was the only one in the neighberhood who we could reason with, now there are 50+ groupos of insurgents, this is an improvement in your deranged mind? Or have you just been listening to Rush a bit too often and it has rotted your brain?


I seriously don't give a fuck, i really really don't. That you are a retarded piece of shit ou have shown to me endlessly, so unless you want to amuse the other posters further by ridiculing yourself even more,l i really don't give a fuck.

"Blah blah blah...I'm in SAS...blah blah blah....I post from afghanistan..."; your rhetoric is tiresome. Not every thread is in perpetual need of this tripe.

Son, in every fucking thread you do the same thing, you refuse to answer and run away, now i know you were once military and since i have respect for that, i will not tell you to shove off.

I'll just tell you to fuck off while the adults are trying to have a conversation.

 

[Double Trouble]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

I'm no expert but here's what's written

The President ... shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

That's pretty sweeping. Perhaps it's just paranoia, but this Administration has pushed things to the absolute limit. Why stop now?

That is very sweeping indeed. So if someone is pardoned, and it later turns out they had previously committed a murder, they would walk? Yowsa, I can't understand why presidents throw pardons around like they're no big deal before leaving office.

Preemptive pardons are legal. The most famous example: Nixon was never charged with any crimes before Ford pardoned him.

Pre-emptive in the sense that it's a pardon for acts committed prior to the pardon, for which the person hasn't yet been charged. Fortunately there can't be a pardon for future activities.

 

[Lemon law]

JOS, you are no son of mine or me yours, but in your real war on terrorism, you are doing a hell of a good job in increasing the number of terrorists and little more.

Some idiot in your governments may have promoted you way past your level of competence, but that hardly excuses your six year track record of total failure.

Back where I come from results matter and its not hard to connect the dots, stupidity fails and your stinking thinking is the author of your own failures. Deny the failures all you want, but badly failing you are. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

If you think going into Pakistan with the woefully inadequate troop numbers you have will solve anything, IMHO, you are a total and complete idiot.

Believe it or not I share your goals, but there are an almost an infinite number of ways to run the Afghan occupation smarter, and you are a totally dumb MF in choosing the surest way to fail. As they say, I will see you in the comic books, and comic books best describe your thinking.

One day you will grow up maybe, but right now I find no evidence that you are even aware of reality.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Double Trouble

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Double Trouble

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Frankly, I'd love to see turdblossom frog-marched into Congress in leg-irons to testify (or more likely plead the 5th), but I wonder if perhaps the Dems are trying to lead by example? You know, show that while they have genuine concerns about the behavior (and legality of said behavior) of the White House, they're not going to stoop to the level of the GOP investigating a blow job. In a way, it's like taking the high road ... but alas, there's little satisfaction there.

Democrats are not taking a high road here, they are merely warming us up to the contemptable sh*t we're all in for when the repuglicans are booted out of power.

Nothing is going to happen. Bush will pardon everyone up front (there's no prohibition against it) and Rove, Cheney and anyone else you can think of will go free no matter what. I'm not sure that he wouldn't pardon himself. He's that bold.

I'm not a lawyer or constitutional scholar or anything, but I can't imagine you could pardon someone for any crimes he might have committed. I thought one could only be pardoned for crimes he/she is charged with? Anyone got any solid info on that one, I'm curious.

On topic: the dems are just showing that they are no better than the repubs, it's all about show and image, but in the end they don't have the balls to haul some of these criminals like Rove, Hadley etc into court, indict & convict them and put them in the slammer.

No shit? i'm a Captain of the UKAF's special division and apparently i know more than you (considering that i am Briish and have been away from most news a long time, it is strange)

Considering that I'm not from the US at all, it's not so strange.

Son, these members of the current Admin along with Blair should be in the slammer for life, tell me ONE positive thing that has come out of the destruction of Iraq and i might change my mind, ONE.

I'm in Afghanistan and 100k+ troops in the REAL war against terrorist has been needed for YEARS.

If you don't have an answer, the kindly shut the FUCK up.

Don't call me "son", I'm very likely older than you. I asked a question, get off your high horse, I don't give a shit if you're in Afghanistan or Uzbekistan, I don't give a shit if you're in the special forces or a special ed student, you still come off like a jackass.

Son, i'll call anyone i percieve to be less than 20 son, live with it.

I'm sorry for assuming you were an American, i didn't check, you do sound like an arrogant arsehole though so you sure have the language right if you want to move there.


I'm testy, i'm angry, i'm pissed and you know what, i'm sorry i poured this mix out on you, but you should learn some fucking manners.


Most of my good freinds in this place are "dems" and you insulting them pisses me off, especially since the likes of Haya are ten times as qualified as you in any terms of ... well anything.

Are we clear?

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: Double Trouble

Preemptive pardons are legal. The most famous example: Nixon was never charged with any crimes before Ford pardoned him.

Pre-emptive in the sense that it's a pardon for acts committed prior to the pardon, for which the person hasn't yet been charged. Fortunately there can't be a pardon for future activities.

I wouldn't put it past W to try to expand the Emperor's powers to that extreme.

Oops! Sorry, I should have said President!