House Dems "Nothing left to cut in budget — ‘the cupboard is bare’"

[Genx87]

This is the problem with giving these politicians 4 trillion to play around with. Now according to them 4 trillion is essential govt function and the cupboard is bare.

 

[shortylickens]

I think the sign in the background is better. Access of evil......

Maybe if we spent more on education instead of military and welfare?

 

[shortylickens]

Lack of political pull :\

Charmin is used in Congressional throne rooms

Navy and Army get shit on a lot. Especially veterans.

Air Force has it pretty good.

 

[shadow9d9]

If working people make less money so should people on Welfare and SS and Foodstamps. The money doesn't fall from the sky!

Foodstamps are one of the best bangs for the buck of anything we could spend on. SS is paid into.

Money sure falls out of the sky for the military though!

 

[shadow9d9]

Sorry the Republicans wanted to cut government spending and used the debt ceiling to get it.

Isn't funny though that Obama and the Democrats threw a tantrum when a cut of "pennies" went through?

If you want to cut spending, don't pass bills that REQUIRE SPENDING! Just like if you want to save money, you don't go to the store and spend and then issue chargebacks...

 

[shadow9d9]

Same-sex marriage?:hmm:

EDIT: Or Obama's first act in office (during the greatest recession in 80 years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act

Considering the majority of the country approves same sex marriage and we are YEARS(and sometimes decades) behind gay rights when it comes to the first world countries, I don't see this at all as a "left" issue. It is a moderate issue at best. Are all civil rights passage "left" wins?

Additionally, gay marriage hasn't done anything at a federal level(except for a right wing supreme court giving it the go ahead).

How is fair pay "left"?

 

[shadow9d9]

wow. talk about a loon.

So, you can't name any? Didn't think so!

 

[shadow9d9]

I have kicked your ass way too many times. You basically advocate for socialism and you call me an extremist? You're nothing but a whack-job who can't be taken seriously.

I haven't seen you make even a shred of a point to anyone here... You also have no clue what "socialism" is... it is just a boogeyman term you've been taught to parrot.

 

[nehalem256]

If you want to cut spending, don't pass bills that REQUIRE SPENDING! Just like if you want to save money, you don't go to the store and spend and then issue chargebacks...

And the sequester was a bill that cut spending(1/2 of which was military spending). The sequester has nothing to do with chargebacks.

Considering the majority of the country approves same sex marriage and we are YEARS(and sometimes decades) behind gay rights when it comes to the first world countries, I don't see this at all as a "left" issue. It is a moderate issue at best. Are all civil rights passage "left" wins?

Fundamentally redefining marriage to be nothing more than a benefits grabbing circlejerk is a left-wing position. It is really a logical continuation of left-wing beliefs that there is no difference between men and women and that there is nothing wrong with having bastard children, divorcing for frivolous reasons, etc.

And I fail to see how we are years or decades behind when there are many left-wing states that passed legalized SSM before "left-wing" countries such as for example france and the UK.

 

[shadow9d9]

Got a letter yesterday that as retired Navy, I'm losing my Tricare Prime benefit and am being forced to move to Tricare standard because I live more than 100 miles from a base. I'll now have to absorb probably an extra $500-600/year in medical costs. The total cost savings to the DoD? $50 million/year. That's right, they're shafting retired military personnel so they can save an amount less than a rounding error in the overall budget. Having the Pentagon switch their TP to single ply would probably save more.

That is what you get for volunteering to support the war machine of this country...

 

[nehalem256]

Additionally, gay marriage hasn't done anything at a federal level(except for a right wing supreme court giving it the go ahead).

Could that be that libs have only had control of the federal government for the 2008-2010 period when you know maybe there was the pressing matter of the economy along with passing Obamacare.

How is fair pay "left"?

Because the bill is nothing more than a lefty circle-jerk. The idea that businesses will pay men 30% more for the same work is a myth, not to mention insane.

 

[shadow9d9]

And the sequester was a bill that cut spending(1/2 of which was military spending). The sequester has nothing to do with chargebacks.



Fundamentally redefining marriage to be nothing more than a benefits grabbing circlejerk is a left-wing position. It is really a logical continuation of left-wing beliefs that there is no difference between men and women and that there is nothing wrong with having bastard children, divorcing for frivolous reasons, etc.

And I fail to see how we are years or decades behind when there are many left-wing states that passed legalized SSM before "left-wing" countries such as for example france and the UK.

Refusing to raise the debt ceiling is absolutely a chargeback.

I'm not interested in your conspiracy theory regarding equal rights. You will be just like the bigots throughout history. You are a relic. Just because you have an illogical fear of the gay, doesn't make your conspiracies any less ridiculous.

 

[shadow9d9]

Could that be that libs have only had control of the federal government for the 2008-2010 period when you know maybe there was the pressing matter of the economy along with passing Obamacare.



Because the bill is nothing more than a lefty circle-jerk. The idea that businesses will pay men 30% more for the same work is a myth, not to mention insane.

So, if the "libs" controlled things, then you should be able to make up a LAUNDRY LIST of "liberal" bills proposed(not even passed) in the last 20 years...

Besides, the moderate/right democrats didn't have 60 votes for more than about 3 months anyhow, and that is only if you count someone kicked out of the party.

Are you trying to say that the ideal of equal pay is "lefty"?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

NY daily news gets a caption wrong and suddenly it's a vast left wing conspiracy?

Who said it was a vast left wing conspiracy? No one even suggested this except you.

horseshit. she was out there lampooning them and freely admitted so.

She didn't come forward of her own volition and apologize....she apologized after she was caught. Why do you defend this kind of trash anyway? What's it to you?

 

[JockoJohnson]

Refusing to raise the debt ceiling is absolutely a chargeback.

I'm not interested in your conspiracy theory regarding equal rights. You will be just like the bigots throughout history. You are a relic. Just because you have an illogical fear of the gay, doesn't make your conspiracies any less ridiculous.

Why can't Congress just raise the debt ceiling to infinity or a really large number? Why do they have to keep voting on increasing the debt ceiling?

If they have to keep voting on it as a sort of "check" for the system, then we should apply strings to it instead of just raising it without any repurcussions. If I recall correctly, Obama the Senator also voted against raising the debt ceiling at one point.

 

[sm625]

The cupboard is bare but the cupboard door is made of 24ct gold and weighs a frickin ton.

 

[ElFenix]

Who said it was a vast left wing conspiracy? No one even suggested this except you.

the words "inflitrate" and "plant" suggests something sinister. leap to vast left wing conspiracy is just for rhetoric and a bit of a knock on hillary for seeing a vast rightwing conspiracy in the same manner that some people seem to see a vast leftwing conspiracy.

She didn't come forward of her own volition and apologize....she apologized after she was caught. Why do you defend this kind of trash anyway? What's it to you?

what was there to apologize for? a reporter asked her what she was doing and she came right out and said she was mocking them. she wasn't caught. why are you trying to find a bogeyman that doesn't exist?

again, the actual paper that was on the scene reported NONE of what the gateway pundit failpost alleges. why are you defending shitty non-journalism?

If you have a problem with the article take it up with the author. I was just answering your question in a very matter-of-fact manner with zero spin. No incendiary commenting on my part.

you wouldn't be using gateway pundit if you intended zero spin. that whole post is spin.
here's the original article:
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...ts-collide-in-River-4678150.php#photo-4944084

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

the words "inflitrate" and "plant" suggests something sinister. leap to vast left wing conspiracy is just for rhetoric and a bit of a knock on hillary for seeing a vast rightwing conspiracy in the same manner that some people seem to see a vast leftwing conspiracy.

what was there to apologize for? a reporter asked her what she was doing and she came right out and said she was mocking them. she wasn't caught. why are you trying to find a bogeyman that doesn't exist?

again, the actual paper that was on the scene reported NONE of what the gateway pundit failpost alleges. why are you defending shitty non-journalism?

The more I read about this, the more I find that you're correct. The New York Daily News screwed up the story big time and started this mess! I was misled...my apologies.

 

[ElFenix]

The more I read about this, the more I find that you're correct. The New York Daily News screwed up the story big time and started this mess! I was misled...my apologies.

coolbeans

 

[nehalem256]

So, if the "libs" controlled things, then you should be able to make up a LAUNDRY LIST of "liberal" bills proposed(not even passed) in the last 20 years...

Besides, the moderate/right democrats didn't have 60 votes for more than about 3 months anyhow, and that is only if you count someone kicked out of the party.

They controlled things for at most 2 years. During which they were preoccupied with other things such as you know the whole recession thing and passing Obamacare.

And as you pointed out lacked a filibuster proof Senate. As well as the fact that not every Democrat will be a far left-winger.

Are you trying to say that the ideal of equal pay is "lefty"?

I am saying that the left-wing definition of equal pay is. Which is not equal pay for equal work, but whining about the fact that men and women make different life choices resulting in unequal pay for unequal work.

 

[Jhhnn]

So you are saying that Democrats were actually MORE conservative when they were enacting things like FDR's New Deal and Johnson's Great Society than they are today? D:

No. He's saying that Repubs have charged off into the nether regions of Glenbeckistan, which the chart clearly supports. As a group, they're considerably more "conservative" (reactionary) today than they were 100 years ago, or at any time in history.

Which, according to teahadists, isn't radical at all.

 

[Jhhnn]

I am saying that the left-wing definition of equal pay is. Which is not equal pay for equal work, but whining about the fact that men and women make different life choices resulting in unequal pay for unequal work.

Which, of course, completely ignores Lilly Ledbetter's employment situation entirely.

Not that you'd notice, encapsulated in self sealing denial.

 

[nehalem256]

No. He's saying that Repubs have charged off into the nether regions of Glenbeckistan, which the chart clearly supports. As a group, they're considerably more "conservative" (reactionary) today than they were 100 years ago, or at any time in history.

Which, according to teahadists, isn't radical at all.

Did you even look at the chart?

Notice how according to the chart Democrats are at their most conservative when passing the New Deal. And were still more conservative during Johnson's Great Society.

I that does not immediately make you question the accuracy of said chart...

 

[nehalem256]

Which, of course, completely ignores Lilly Ledbetter's employment situation entirely.

Not that you'd notice, encapsulated in self sealing denial.

Self sealing denial?

Notice how this article at the NYTs from today says much the same thing as I did about liberal goals

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/b...rican-women-is-it-enough-to-lean-in.html?_r=0

Of course whether anyone, beyond some butt-hurt man hating feminists is happy with liberal changes is another matter:

Perhaps. Alternatively, many women will work until they have children and leave, at least until their children are well on their way in their schooling. Studying survey data on personal well-being, Marianne Bertrand of the University of Chicago found that college-educated mothers with careers were no more satisfied with their lives, and might be less so, than stay-at-home college-educated mothers.

 

[OverVolt]

Its as if all at once, the sea of humanity became dumber.