House Dems "Nothing left to cut in budget — ‘the cupboard is bare’"

[Jhhnn]

Same-sex marriage?:hmm:

EDIT: Or Obama's first act in office (during the greatest recession in 80 years)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lily_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act

Yes, we know you hate women, and feel that equal pay for equal work threatens your manhood, such as it is.

I mean, male privilege, particularly white male privilege, is obviously a God given right, at least in your head, right?

 

[Incorruptible]

Yes, Dems are obviously *Leftists!", calling for revolution, abolishment of private property, religion, & collectivization in a classless state, right?

They also hate your Freedumbs! & make the baby Jesus cry, too.

Basically, you apply the term "Leftist" to anybody not to the right of your own political beliefs, w/o regard to the fact that *you* are the extremist, with very, very few people to the right of you at all, if any.

I have kicked your ass way too many times. You basically advocate for socialism and you call me an extremist? You're nothing but a whack-job who can't be taken seriously.

 

[michal1980]

Yes, Dems are obviously *Leftists!", calling for revolution, abolishment of private property, religion, & collectivization in a classless state, right?

They also hate your Freedumbs! & make the baby Jesus cry, too.

Basically, you apply the term "Leftist" to anybody not to the right of your own political beliefs, w/o regard to the fact that *you* are the extremist, with very, very few people to the right of you at all, if any.

Oh please. you lib's on the left have started calling anyone that disagrees with you extreme since bush came into office. first with all the neocon labels. Now everyone on the right is extreme. You can't even tell what is and what isn't extreme because you've retarded the spectrum so much.

 

[nehalem256]

Yes, we know you hate women, and feel that equal pay for equal work threatens your manhood, such as it is.

I mean, male privilege, particularly white male privilege, is obviously a God given right, at least in your head, right?

Right... because obviously the greedy corporate lootacrcy actually would pay men 30% more for the same work. You know the same people that ship jobs to china to save $1/hr or use bolts 5 cents cheaper that make cars explode.:hmm:

The idea that women are paid less for the same work is nothing more than a tired old lefty talking point. The fact that Obama made passing a law that is basically circle-jerking to that talking point as his first act in office, during the greatest recession in 80 years, is clear evidence of leftism.

 

[monovillage]

Yup. She later had a change of heart and apologized for doing what she did.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ton-pro-zimmerman-rally-is-far-left-activist/

Not just a change of heart, she was a Democrat activist who deliberately was pictured with that sign and tried to pin it on the conservatives. The only change of heart she had was she got caught doing it.

 

[thraashman]

Oh please. you lib's on the left have started calling anyone that disagrees with you extreme since bush came into office. first with all the neocon labels. Now everyone on the right is extreme. You can't even tell what is and what isn't extreme because you've retarded the spectrum so much.

Except for the FACT that studies have PROVEN that democrats haven't really moved further left recently and republicans have made a hard shift right. But you've proven time and again that facts are not one of your fortes.

 

[thraashman]

Not just a change of heart, she was a Democrat activist who deliberately was pictured with that sign and tried to pin it on the conservatives. The only change of heart she had was she got caught doing it.

How was she deliberately trying to pin it on conservatives when the very first time anyone interviewed her asking about it she told them her sign was sarcastic and she wasn't racist or conservative.

Her own words when interviewed at the rally

there are people here who are racist and apparently think that’s OK. I’m not one of them. I’m being sarcastic.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Oh please. you lib's on the left have started calling anyone that disagrees with you extreme since bush came into office. first with all the neocon labels. Now everyone on the right is extreme. You can't even tell what is and what isn't extreme because you've retarded the spectrum so much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

 

[Pacemaker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

FYI, the first thing in the Neocon Wikipedia article is:

The neutrality of this article is disputed. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved.

I'd agree the right has gone further right, but I wouldn't call that article evidence when it basically says it's biased at the beginning.

 

[nehalem256]

Except for the FACT that studies have PROVEN that democrats haven't really moved further left recently and republicans have made a hard shift right. But you've proven time and again that facts are not one of your fortes.

So you are saying that Democrats were actually MORE conservative when they were enacting things like FDR's New Deal and Johnson's Great Society than they are today? D:

 

[Jaepheth]

Disband the Air Force and Army (keeping reserves) and add 100 billion to the Navy's budget for them to pick up the slack.

I just slashed 300 billion from the budget.

Might have to cancel a few ongoing wars though.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

FYI, the first thing in the Neocon Wikipedia article is:




I'd agree the right has gone further right, but I wouldn't call that article evidence when it basically says it's biased at the beginning.

Refer to the details of what is disputed and you will see that a very tiny part of it is disputed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Neoconservatism#.23

 

[Naeeldar]

Disband the Air Force and Army (keeping reserves) and add 100 billion to the Navy's budget for them to pick up the slack.

I just slashed 300 billion from the budget.

Might have to cancel a few ongoing wars though.

Hmm and when all the men and women in the air force and army have no jobs and are now on food stamps?

People don't seem to get that the govt is an industry in our economy. You can't just cut the military without it having a major impact in both jobs and the financials of big companies who supply the govt.

At the same time you can't just cut foot stamp programs either because all that money is funneled back into our economy as well in the same way each month.

IF you cut something cold turkey without unraveling it slowly - no matter what program - you risk major pain points due to the sudden and abrupt gap in our economy.

 

[ElFenix]

Yup. She later had a change of heart and apologized for doing what she did.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ton-pro-zimmerman-rally-is-far-left-activist/

NY daily news gets a caption wrong and suddenly it's a vast left wing conspiracy?

Not just a change of heart, she was a Democrat activist who deliberately was pictured with that sign and tried to pin it on the conservatives. The only change of heart she had was she got caught doing it.

horseshit. she was out there lampooning them and freely admitted so.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Disband the Air Force and Army (keeping reserves) and add 100 billion to the Navy's budget for them to pick up the slack.

I just slashed 300 billion from the budget.

Might have to cancel a few ongoing wars though.

A little thought is needed before opening up your yap.

Is the economy strong enough to absorb those troops being cut out?
What jobs will they be picking up?

Drop the Army and Air Force; what happens to all the internal programs that rely on government civilians and contractors?

You would have to cut out those also - nothing to support.
Watch 100s+ cities and towns turn into dust bowls. Every USAF facility (aircraft and R&D). Every town that supports an Army post.

We do not have the economy to pick up the slack like back in the 80s.
You can hand over facilities to local governments to handle/expand civilian infrastructure. There is no expansion going on at present! No demand. Property will sit useless for 5-20 years. Facilities on the property will degrade due to lack of maintenance.

Or are you going to cherry pick - anything different from the BRAC?

 

[OutHouse]

A little thought is needed before opening up your yap.

Is the economy strong enough to absorb those troops being cut out?
What jobs will they be picking up?

Drop the Army and Air Force; what happens to all the internal programs that rely on government civilians and contractors?

You would have to cut out those also - nothing to support.
Watch 100s+ cities and towns turn into dust bowls. Every USAF facility (aircraft and R&D). Every town that supports an Army post.

We do not have the economy to pick up the slack like back in the 80s.
You can hand over facilities to local governments to handle/expand civilian infrastructure. There is no expansion going on at present! No demand. Property will sit useless for 5-20 years. Facilities on the property will degrade due to lack of maintenance.

Or are you going to cherry pick - anything different from the BRAC?

yup, nothing like adding half a million to a non existent job economy

http://www.afpc.af.mil/library/airforcepersonneldemographics.asp


The following Air Force active duty demographics information is current as of June 30, 2013. These statistics do not include Air National Guard or Air Force Reserve personnel.

329,489 Active Duty
65,084 Officers
264,405 Enlisted
The Air Force has 14,426 pilots, 3,643 navigators and 1,540 air battle managers in the grade of lieutenant colonel and below. The Air Force has 25,620 nonrated line officers in the grade of lieutenant colonel and below.


Civilian Employee Demographics

The following Air Force civilian demographics information is current as of June 30, 2013.

Employee Type
141,487 U.S. (Citizen) Permanent Full Time Employees (USPFT)
3,702 U.S. Citizen Temp or Term Employees
905 U.S. Citizen Part Time, Intermittent Employees
968 Leave without pay, furloughed, or suspended greater than 30 days employees
23,600 Non-Appropriated Funds Employees
12,528 Local Nationals

 

[Bowfinger]

A little thought is needed before opening up your yap.

Is the economy strong enough to absorb those troops being cut out?
What jobs will they be picking up?

Drop the Army and Air Force; what happens to all the internal programs that rely on government civilians and contractors?

You would have to cut out those also - nothing to support.
Watch 100s+ cities and towns turn into dust bowls. Every USAF facility (aircraft and R&D). Every town that supports an Army post.

We do not have the economy to pick up the slack like back in the 80s.
You can hand over facilities to local governments to handle/expand civilian infrastructure. There is no expansion going on at present! No demand. Property will sit useless for 5-20 years. Facilities on the property will degrade due to lack of maintenance.

Or are you going to cherry pick - anything different from the BRAC?

I hope you recognize that this is the problem with any large government cuts. That "wasteful" government spending doesn't get dumped into the trash. It gets dumped into people's pockets. It gets dumped back into our economy. Slashing that spending has real impact on people and communities, and as you point out, our economy is still too soft to absorb it. That is always the dilemma of slashing government: who gets to suffer, because it will be painful. Yes, cuts are needed, but they need to be carefully considered and they need to be surgical.

 

[Engineer]

I hope you recognize that this is the problem with any large government cuts. That "wasteful" government spending doesn't get dumped into the trash. It gets dumped into people's pockets. It gets dumped back into our economy. Slashing that spending has real impact on people and communities, and as you point out, our economy is still too soft to absorb it. That is always the dilemma of slashing government: who gets to suffer, because it will be painful. Yes, cuts are needed, but they need to be carefully considered and they need to be surgical.

Agree 100%. I had a discussion with my mother-in-law about government spending. She was all about the government 'wastes the money' and needs to cut it all out now. I asked her what she would cut and if it would hurt the economy? She didn't know what to cut other than to say welfare. She couldn't say SS or Medicare, as she is on them. When asked about the military, she said that we would be invaded and overthrown if we did that. I asked her again and she said that we need to cut out the waste and that the waste was just going down the drain. I asked her who this 'waste' went to? She said it might as well be thrown into the trash as nobody is getting anything from it. I asked her, nobody? Walmart doesn't get any? The hardware store? Employees of various business? She said no, it's just wasted. There was no convincing her that the 'wasted' money was going somewhere besides literally in the trash. I finally gave up and let her believe whatever she wanted.

 

[dainthomas]

Got a letter yesterday that as retired Navy, I'm losing my Tricare Prime benefit and am being forced to move to Tricare standard because I live more than 100 miles from a base. I'll now have to absorb probably an extra $500-600/year in medical costs. The total cost savings to the DoD? $50 million/year. That's right, they're shafting retired military personnel so they can save an amount less than a rounding error in the overall budget. Having the Pentagon switch their TP to single ply would probably save more.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Agree 100%. I had a discussion with my mother-in-law about government spending. She was all about the government 'wastes the money' and needs to cut it all out now. I asked her what she would cut and if it would hurt the economy? She didn't know what to cut other than to say welfare. She couldn't say SS or Medicare, as she is on them. When asked about the military, she said that we would be invaded and overthrown if we did that. I asked her again and she said that we need to cut out the waste and that the waste was just going down the drain. I asked her who this 'waste' went to? She said it might as well be thrown into the trash as nobody is getting anything from it. I asked her, nobody? Walmart doesn't get any? The hardware store? Employees of various business? She said no, it's just wasted. There was no convincing her that the 'wasted' money was going somewhere besides literally in the trash. I finally gave up and let her believe whatever she wanted.

See Bold

 

[EagleKeeper]

Got a letter yesterday that as retired Navy, I'm losing my Tricare Prime benefit and am being forced to move to Tricare standard because I live more than 100 miles from a base. I'll now have to absorb probably an extra $500-600/year in medical costs. The total cost savings to the DoD? $50 million/year. That's right, they're shafting retired military personnel so they can save an amount less than a rounding error in the overall budget. Having the Pentagon switch their TP to single ply would probably save more.

Lack of political pull :\

Charmin is used in Congressional throne rooms

 

[piasabird]

Cut SS and medicare and SNAP and Aid to Farmers. Cut Business expenses. Cut Tax Abatements, Cut tax Credits. Cut SSI, Cut military and government paychecks by up to 50%. Make banks pay more to borrow money. Quit Subsidies to Power Companies. Cut the Earned Income Credit. Cut Interest on loans for Homes. There is plenty to cut!

 

[piasabird]

If working people make less money so should people on Welfare and SS and Foodstamps. The money doesn't fall from the sky!

 

[Lithium381]

Except for the FACT that studies have PROVEN that democrats haven't really moved further left recently and republicans have made a hard shift right. But you've proven time and again that facts are not one of your fortes.

source? so during times of economic health, the average is more convervative, and then when there is economic hardship, it moves more to the liberal side?

so when people are making money, they want less government, and when they're having a hard time making ends meet, they want more government? That's what i got from two seconds of looking at the graph.

 

[boomerang]

Quote: Originally Posted by boomerang Yup. She later had a change of heart and apologized for doing what she did. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013...left-activist/ NY daily news gets a caption wrong and suddenly it's a vast left wing conspiracy?

If you have a problem with the article take it up with the author. I was just answering your question in a very matter-of-fact manner with zero spin. No incendiary commenting on my part.