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HOT! TigerMP mobo for $165 shipped @ NecXDirect/Gateway

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yodayoda

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ok, sorry i'm not some proselytizing christian with a free coloring book. i've actually got a hot deal! on a technology product! that is pretty good!

http://www.necxdirect.com/hai/prod_page.html?key=164414

NecX/Gateway has the Tyan TigerMP motherboard for $205. yeah, yeah, i know, this is the original 762 motherboard and not the MPX version. so it doesn't have a 66MHz/64 bit PCI slots. it does have working USB and 4x 32bit PCI slots and it still takes two AMD processors. but there is also a coupon for $50 off $199 floating around ( s l i c k d e a l s . n e t ). that brings you down to $155 + $10 shipping brings you to $165! not bad in my book--i just paid that for my Abit KR7A-RAID. have fun!
 
they screwed up the socket type with the processor speed. all modern AMD processors (Duron, Athlon, AthlonXP, AthlonMP) are socket A, also called Socket 462, as opposed to the plethora of modern *ntel sockets: 370, 478, 423, 603 (for PIII, Celery; P4; P4; Xeon respectively)
 
WOW! This is a HOT deal. I dont think I have even seen it for about $200 ... but let alone for $165!!! 🙂

I wish i had money right now 🙁

Spac3d
 
good deal guys...I just bought the tyan MPX board for $200 flat including tax, this is $50 less than everyone out there when you factor in shipping, handling and tax!!!
 


<< so it doesn't have a 66MHz/64 bit PCI slots. it does have working USB and 4x 32bit PCI slots >>



are you sure about this? maybe i'm smoking crack, or the NECX Direct website product description page is wrong but....

Tiger MP brings similar processing performance to the masses! This cost effective, high quality dual processor system board supports up to two AMD Athlon MP processors, and provides leading edge performance for your demanding applications. The Tiger MP is designed around the AMD 760 MP chipset and provides powerful integrated features including a 266MHz system bus, support for up to 3GB of DDR memory, 32bit and 64bit PCI slots, 4x AGP slot, dual channel ATA 100 IDE and much more.

* Supports up to two AMD Athlon? MP processors
* Four DIMM sockets for up to 3GB of registered PC2100 DDR
* AGP slot supports 2x/4x modes
* Four 64-bit and two 32-bit 33MHz PCI expansion slots

so it appears to me that it has 64bit 33Mhz PCI slots... oh wait i just realized the diff, you said 66mhz/64bit, damn... what the hell kind of cards use that interface?? this looks like an excellent board, might go dualie if i can scrape up the $$... =)

--wayne
 
yes, there are very few devices that use 64bit/66MHz or 64bit/33MHz, only high-end network cards or RAID cards. or me, i would prefer the 4 32bit/33MHz PCI slots and the lower price =) it also has working USB unlike the Asus board--that board gives you a USB card, but it can only go in the 32bit slot, so then you go from 3 PCI slots to 2! screw that!
 
oops, i made a mistake--all of the TigerMP PCI slots are 33MHz, meaning they would work on 33 MHz devices. on the MPX boards, the PCI slot is in reverse and only certain cards that are keyed problem to be both 33 MHz and 66 MHz compliant would work.
 
I think a regular 32 bit pci card will fit into the 64bit/33MHz slot. So the board has 6 pci slots for regular 32 bit/33MHz pci cards. I know the 64bit/66MHz slot requires a special keyed card.

BTW: I have this board and it is great. One word of caution: do not use crucial ram on this board. Go with corsair.
 
I am actually using 3x256 Crucial myself. I bought 4 sticks and having 4 installed is not recommended. This board was not listed on Crucial's website and neither Crucial or Tyan recommend using Crucial memory for this board (a recent addition). I have talked to both companies' tech support (in Dec and Jan). It has something to do with a Crucial stick having 3 banks and Tyan expecting 2 banks (as explained by Crucial tech). Crucial Tech recommended not exceeding 3 sticks.

I bought the memory the week the board came out. I ordered the memory for the S2462 and now Crucial does not list the S2462?!?

The price of Crucial vs. Corsair in negligible and with Corsair you get Tyan recommended memory.

Also, I have had 2 of the Crucial sticks go bad with this board. I give Crucial an A+ for easy RMAs. 😀
 
Cool deal...got it for 155.95 with free shipping to houston!!!🙂

Now gonna see if i can get some cheap chips at newegg!!
 
for a quick trip down "memory" lane, this is what I ordered from Crucial 08/28/01.

Qty: 4
Part No: CT3272Y265
Price: $40.79
Description: 256MB, 184-pin DIMM.
Upgrade for: Upgrade for a Tyan S2462 Thunder K7 System
Line total: $163.16

They are ~$108 each right now. How I long for those cheap memory days 🙁
 
For the longest time I didn't understand what difference it made whether a chip/board/bus was 32bit or 64bit. However, back when I was reading about 64bit PCI architecture (which IMO is long past overdue), I came across a chart that explained it plain and simple for me.



32bit x 33Mhz = 133Mbit/s
64bit x 33Mhz = 266Mbit/s
32bit x 66Mhz = 266Mbit/s
64bit x 66Mhz = 533Mbit's



these are rough figures...but they certainly showed me what is what when it comes to bit path and stuff like that. It was also VERY frustrating to see how worthless all the 33Mhz 32bit RAID cards are that supported SUPERHIGHSCSI Crap and the ATA133 cards...seeing as how the bus speed was piddly 133Mbit/s.

that's my $.02 😀

God Bless

Tanner
 
as soon as i get my tax return, i'll take this tigerMP + 2x 1 GHz durons, mod the bridge on the chip to run at 133 MHz FSB, then you've got a MP compliant, SSE enabled 2.7 GHz rig for under $300!
 


<<
...
32bit x 33Mhz = 133Mbit/s
64bit x 33Mhz = 266Mbit/s
32bit x 66Mhz = 266Mbit/s
64bit x 66Mhz = 533Mbit's
... >>



Something wrong with your math.

32x33 = 1056 Mbps ( / 8 for 133 MBps - note the B not b)
64x33 = 2112 (266MBps)
64x66 = 4224 (533MBps)

You were just off by a factor of 8.

Want to re-think the hard disk controller thing now? Since even ATA-133 can't overpower the PCI bus... It's 133Mbps ( 1/8th the theoretical bandwidth of the 32x33 PCI bus)

Even ISA can handl 16 bits 8Mhz or 128Mbps theoretically (192 on some later "Turbo" motherboards). And then there was VLB (32bits wide and ran at CPU clock - usually 33Mhz but could under some circumstances go to 40 (AMD DX-80 chips) or even 50Mhz with the short lived Intel 486DX-50...
 


<<
You were just off by a factor of 8.

Want to re-think the hard disk controller thing now? Since even ATA-133 can't overpower the PCI bus... It's 133Mbps ( 1/8th the theoretical bandwidth of the 32x33 PCI bus)
. >>




I thought HD controllers were rated at MB/s not Mb/s?

Of course they never come close to 100MB/s, 133MB/s, or 160MB/s anyway


edit: messy tags
 
damn, and i was planning on either...
>just upgrading my tbird 900mhz to something faster
>going all out back to intel w/p4-1.6a and new mobo

and now you bring out the Cheap AMD MP mobo... damn i guess i made up my mind! just need another tbird 900mhz or maybe some Durons, cha-ching!

speaking of which, does anyone have any good suggestions on what CPUs to get w/this mobo? perhaps a special CPU combo from this same store? (can you use the $50 coupon in 2 different orders w/the same account??)

--wayne
 


<<
I thought HD controllers were rated at MB/s not Mb/s?

Of course they never come close to 100MB/s, 133MB/s, or 160MB/s anyway


edit: messy tags >>



You are correct pn both points.. Sorry about that, must have been half awake. Still looking for Serial ATA to take place - then it will be in Mbps just with much bigger numbers.
 


<<

<<
...
32bit x 33Mhz = 133Mbit/s
64bit x 33Mhz = 266Mbit/s
32bit x 66Mhz = 266Mbit/s
64bit x 66Mhz = 533Mbit's
... >>



Something wrong with your math.

32x33 = 1056 Mbps ( / 8 for 133 MBps - note the B not b)
64x33 = 2112 (266MBps)
64x66 = 4224 (533MBps)

You were just off by a factor of 8.

Want to re-think the hard disk controller thing now? Since even ATA-133 can't overpower the PCI bus... It's 133Mbps ( 1/8th the theoretical bandwidth of the 32x33 PCI bus)

Even ISA can handl 16 bits 8Mhz or 128Mbps theoretically (192 on some later "Turbo" motherboards). And then there was VLB (32bits wide and ran at CPU clock - usually 33Mhz but could under some circumstances go to 40 (AMD DX-80 chips) or even 50Mhz with the short lived Intel 486DX-50... >>




I am real confused now. What I thoughtwas
"b" = bit (a 0 or 1)
"B" = byte (8 bits)
and I thought ATA-133 was 133MBps (maximum)

StorageReview and Maxtor express transfer rates in MBps (I thought MegaBytes/sec)
and Promise specifies a a RAID card maximum at 200MBps on a 66MHz 32 bit PCI bus. If labgeek is right, why do you need to go to the 66MHz bus?
 
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