!!! Hot Deal !!! Sega Dreamcast Console only $59 !!!

[stonerdave]

sorry to get so off-topic with the piracy issue yesterday. i neglected to mention in my 2 posts that this is a pretty hot deal.

i was in a compusa a few weeks back, and they had at least a dozen DC games marked down to 9.99. some were already sold out.

my favorite DC is Daytona USA, which i think is easily one of the best games ever ported to a console. it's almost indistinguishable from the arcade version.

 

[badluck]

If someone needs a cheap Dreamcast, look at my post on AnAndTech F/S Forum: HERE. I didn't get mine on this deal, but I wish I would have....

 

[bernse]

<< SEGA 32X DID NOT SUCK!!!
i returned my $1200 pc to play the 32x version of doom for $90!!!
NEITHER DID THE SATURN!!!
mass-market gamers today *sigh* >>



No. It sucked. It sucked HARD. Your logic that it didn't is because it had ONE game that you liked? Ugh.

I have a Genesis
I have a 32x
I have a Saturn (brand new in box)
I have 2 DCs (Black special editions, 1 new in box for collecting)
I have several Atari Jaguars (new in boxes for collecting)
I have a N64
I have several virtual boys (new in boxes for collecting)
I have a PSX
I have a PS2

Out of all of those, I would say the 32x sucks the most. I am dead serious. What a total marketing ploy. If you got sucked into buying one, YOU are the mass marketing gamer that SEGA was going for when they released it. Thats all they had to go on, marketing. The hardware sucked so that was all that was left.

My .02

 

[unclebud]

oh i see, you are a know-nothing fanboy also as well as a mass-market gamer
versatile ain't ye?
i liked all the good games they released like shadow squadron, knuckles chaotix, blackthorne, virtua racing, virtua fighter, and IT GOES ON AND ON.
the reason they released the 32x was because they knew that $399 price of the saturn wasn't going to do anything here in price-conscious america.
if the saturn was so hot to begin with, i would've had bought it.
with my library of genesis and 32x games, i was able to postpone such until the last months of it's release, getting one twice for $50 each
the only reason it sucked to you is the graphics weren't up to that psx you were lusting after
you're a graphics tart as well
at least i post deals about dreamcast. if you're so hot, why don't you post some for everyone

on topic for interested parties, test drive vrally for dreamcast is now $19.99 at best buy
this is a good game, and will probably get cheaper at some stores because it isn't on clearance (price ending in $0.50) yet

 

[TekDemon]

haha yep...there is always that nagging guilt there from killing Sega.

Then again when I had my Nomad it got killed by nobody else giving a damn

Ah well...too bad the Dreamcast is dead sniffle.

 

[HKS]

Yeah, I've seen one that allows you to use PS2/PS1 cnotrollers.




<< with all those cheap $20 quality games, $59 for DC is really great price.
Too bad the controller suck donkey, is there an adaptor that allow PS controller to be use ? >>



My opinion on the piracy... whether or not piracy hurt the dreamcast is extremely laughable. Piracy hurts every software company, or else there would be no need to make it illegal.

Another rant and rave:

One of my favorite things to observe in this forum are the way that people frequently appeal to force to convince the other party of their opinion (ad baculum) The conversation will go something like this...

Person A - &quot;I believe that piracy sucks&quot;.
Person B - &quot;You are a buffoon! You suck!&quot;


It really is quite laughable.

 

[bernse]

<< oh i see, you are a know-nothing fanboy also as well as a mass-market gamer
versatile ain't ye?
i liked all the good games they released like shadow squadron, knuckles chaotix, blackthorne, virtua racing, virtua fighter, and IT GOES ON AND ON.
the reason they released the 32x was because they knew that $399 price of the saturn wasn't going to do anything here in price-conscious america.
if the saturn was so hot to begin with, i would've had bought it.
with my library of genesis and 32x games, i was able to postpone such until the last months of it's release, getting one twice for $50 each
the only reason it sucked to you is the graphics weren't up to that psx you were lusting after
you're a graphics tart as well
at least i post deals about dreamcast. if you're so hot, why don't you post some for everyone

on topic for interested parties, test drive vrally for dreamcast is now $19.99 at best buy
this is a good game, and will probably get cheaper at some stores because it isn't on clearance

price ending in $0.50) yet >>



Mass marketing gamer? Nah. I just collect them. The only one that gets played at all to any extent is the DC.

32x was and still is a horrid piece of hardware. No real defense could possibly be given to that. It is/was total and utter crap. The only good it has is as a collectible piece and a curiosity.

 

[splice]

<< 32X sucked. Sega CD sucked. Nomad ate batteries like crazy and was undermarketed. Saturn was difficult as hell to program, was too expensive, and had lame game support. The Dreamcast had an elegant hardware design, but its timing was unfortunate. >>



Hey! You suck! I hate when ppl dis a piece of hardware esp a console because they really know nothing about it. grrr! 32X and Sega CD where both great consoles and allowed users of the Genesis to upgrade. I own every piece of Sega hardware starting with the Sega Master System, The reason the Saturn was hard to program (harder to emulate, tried it, done that) was because it was a dual RISC SuperH (SH-2) machine (32X was 1x SuperH (SH-2)). A VERY complex system. Hell, I bought the Saturn just to play Shining Force 3. Too expensive? What do you call the PS2's going for $300+. Cheap huh?

 

[TranceNation]

Piracy probably helped the DC in this case

 

[Wag]

Ah this brings back memories. If any of you were here last August then you probably remember the JCPenney deal in which they were selling a DC and 2 games for like $130, and then there was a $50 rebate from Sega.

After I sold the games and got the rebate my cost all told was like $40. Ah, those were the days...

 

[kp1126]

<< Piracy probably helped the DC in this case >>



Yup, the only reason I bought a DC was because I knew I didnt' have to buy games. If games couldn't be pirated, I never would have bought one.

 

[unclebud]

oh for goodness sakes!
i was trying to let this thread be only for people thanking dude for posting this hot deal, but i cannot let that go!
it may have helped psx in the beginning, but how could it help the dc? sega and sony AND ESPECIALLY NINTENDO make their money from licensing and software SALES, not from CONSOLES. just about every console maker has sold their consoles AT or BELOW COST. how can they make money doing that? the only exception MIGHT be sony with the psx or nintendo with the gameboy(s). the only help sega would get from a pirate is him/her telling someone &quot;hey, i played this game and it's good&quot; and the person then going and buying said game because of the recommendation.
people please go read &quot;game over&quot; you know that book i posted being for sale at eb for $2 and like three people responded? if you clean out the garage, i'm sure your mommies will give you the money--then you can buy one and xerox it and pass that around also ]:<

 

[smartt]

SEGA should feel guilty for the 32x, Game Gear, SEGA CD, Saturn, Nomad, and the Dreamcast. Who the hell would ever buy another console from SEGA? Pretty much the same people that bought the above mentioned consoles/psuedo-consoles/handheld. Well, I guess we don't have to worry about them abandoning us now that they are out of the console business *wink*. They are out of the console business about the same as Mike Tyson has quit boxing. But hey, the next one will be different, right?

 

[buckyrodgers]

let he without sin cast the first stone

I suppose none of you have a video tape that you recorded something off TV with or an audio tape with a record on it. What about a recipe you found in a magazine and had to photocopy it. ALL OF THIS IS PIRATING, BUT it's legal to copy something of your own property as long as you don't sell it or give it away in an attempt to hurt the welfare of a certain company. The way I see it, when you rent something your paying the royalties. BTW, how many of you can say you paid MS $600.00 for your copy of Office2k????

 

[driftguru]

that's a great deal, i got my DC last september for 160, add the controllers, 2 rumble pack, 800 slot memory, and crazy taxi(49.99) = spent over 250
how do you burn the DC games? isn't there a block? where do you get it from? please help, best deal i got on games is 3 for $25(burned), would prefer to do it myself

 

[rgmills]

The Dreamcast is $99 on Amazon and even on the Sega site. Is $60-$70 for a used one **that** good of a deal?

I'm interested in some type of gaming console. Is DC a good choice? The PS2 is too pricy.

 

[sak]

<< already have over 100 games, all free of course

It's people like you that put SEGA out of the console market. >>




Whats ur problem

 

[SuperCyrix]

<< The reason the Saturn was hard to program (harder to emulate, tried it, done that) was because it was a dual RISC SuperH (SH-2) machine (32X was 1x SuperH (SH-2)). A VERY complex system. >>



The reason that it was a dual RISC SuperH machine was because after Sega saw the 3-D abilities of the Playstation, they went back to the drawing board and just completely yanked that design out of their rear. Same reason why it was so hard to program. Almost all the publications at that time agree that the Saturn was a very sloppy job.

After the original genesis, Sega didn't have a single success. Reviewers thought the 32X did nothing more than give the genesis the graphics capabilities of the SNES. The Saturn was completely trashed by the PS, and now the Dreamcast is a legacy product in less than a year.

 

[oLLie]

less than a year? are you joking? it came out on 9/9/99 and it's now 6/17/01 is it not? it became a legacy product in what... march of 2001? Right, legacy in less than a year.

Ollie

DC for 60-70 used isn't bad as long as it's in good condition.

 

[Boogak]

Ok, I actually spent $300 on the SegaCD back when it first came out and I feel I have a say in this argument. The SegaCD was an awesome piece of hardware when it first came out, featuring true hardware scaling (instead of sprite scaling like the Genesis did) and CD quality sound. The problem was Sega corporate never released enough good games to ever justify the initial cost of that upgrade. They kept pushing FMV crap (what was the name of that game with Dana Plato from Different Strokes in?) instead of releasing more quality import games like Lunar. I should've gotten a SNES instead

 

[SuperCyrix]

6/17/01?

You're a bit misleading as well. Sega annouced they stop supporting Dreamcast way before that. 9/9/99 can't be the release date here, probably not even in Japan. I'm estimating this by the 1st time I've seen a Dreamcast commercial on TV which was after Y2K here in LA.
I guess it's possible that the dreamcast might have survived for a little more than a year. Whoopie Doo! I guess that makes it a big success. Nes, master system, snes, genesis, and PS were all around for over 5 years.

The problem with Sega is that they just can't compete.

 

[Shaftatplanetquake]

<<9/99 can't be the release date here, probably not even in Japan.>>

Sega was doing some really big advertising way before 9/99. If you didnt' see any comercials, you weren't watching tv.

I love my saturn just as much as my PS. And I'm gunna get a dreamcast as soon as I get enough money to buy one.

People who say saturn was a pos are just ignorant. There were almost as many great games on saturn as were on ps, and the saturn wasn't around anywhere near as long as the ps (which is still going...)

 

[msarah]

The reason the Saturn was hard to program(harder to emulate, tried it, done that)

Could I have a copy of your Saturn emulator? I'm sure lots of other people would like it too...

 

[splice]

No... you can not. It was never completed and I don't release any of my src code. I got the dual SH-2's working (buggy) along with the bus and memory map (some what ran the BIOS). Started working on the SH-1 and VDP1, but just ran out of time/lost interest. Emulation was a big hobby of mine although I never released any code. I started the initial programming of Project51 (NES emu) at NCSU back in '97.

 

[solipsist]

First off -- BUMP! Nice deal!


Hmm piracy killed the dreamcast? I think it was the razor/blade that did it. If they hadn't been losing money on the dreamcasts - which many people bought, at the same time that they left it wide open for any Worst Buy brat to copy his friends WWF Wrestling or whatever, they would have done fine.

Basically, only nerds (like us) would buy the dreamcast as Playstation was still going strong at the time (and still is) and you must be joking yourself if you think that 5 years ago everyone knew how to look stuff up on the internet to the effect of buying and installing a mod chip. This was probably the first strong case of console burnout a lot of people went through. I saw a shady figure that claimed that less than 5% of the people who bought a dreamcast DIDN'T already have a PS1...

By the time dreamcast came out and was at its strongest, *UNCAPPED* cable modems were in full swing with the boom of the @home network and any kid with a burner could copy both ps1 and dc games instantly.

PS1 however, had the advantage of not being so easy to do. . . as both machines had to be modded.

So, it obviously wasn't solely the piracy - as SEGA now they are only a software developer. That would be a bad move, huh?

A company like SEGA makes so little money off of *any* product.

Licensing, stocks, market placement, sponsorships... now that is where the money is. Take a good look at Microsoft or IBMs earnings (not that they're in the same sized boat as Sega)... so little of it is from &quot;product selling&quot;, probably less than 25%.

Anyhow... don't get one expecting to be wowed anymore. I mean, really only a handful of playstation2 titles are even all that impressive compared to stunners on the pc like black&amp;white or sacrifice. . . and yeah psonline is fun for a while... until you realize how hackable it is, and how vapid it is... etc.

zzzz

did i say bump?