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Hot Deal - K-Meleon 0.9 browser is out! (better than firefox IMHO)

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
Originally posted by: tjaisv
so what makes it better than Mozilla Firefox?
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Who knows, the website doesn't even work.
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The website DOES work. However, there was an article posted on slashdot about the new version, so it may load slow for you, but it is loading quick for me now.
 
From the K-Meleon FAQ

What is K-Meleon?

K-Meleon is an open-source browser based on Gecko, the rendering engine for FireFox? and Mozilla. It is intended to be a light, fast, and customizable browser.
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So, this is firefox with a different face. I'll stick with firefox thank you.
 
so what makes it better than Mozilla Firefox?

In general, it's written for windows, so it's faster (esp. on slower or older systems, but also many 2+Ghz systems). Uses the same Gecko rendering engine. You can completely customize the look and functionality if you wish.

Here's a complete list of the features

Who knows, the website doesn't even work.
Try this link, it's the sourceforge copy and isn't slashdotted...

http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/
 
It is much more customizable. It is the gecko browser for ppl that don't want all the option taken away.

It is lean only a 4 megabyte download (firefox is still around 6). . .

Has all the great things, tabbed browsing, extensible applications, etc. . .

 
Originally posted by: episodic
It is much more customizable. It is the gecko browser for ppl that don't want all the option taken away.

It is lean only a 4 megabyte download (firefox is still around 6). . .

Has all the great things, tabbed browsing, extensible applications, etc. . .
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2MB makes a heckuva difference for us broadband folks. 😉
 
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Originally posted by: episodic
It is much more customizable. It is the gecko browser for ppl that don't want all the option taken away.

It is lean only a 4 megabyte download (firefox is still around 6). . .

Has all the great things, tabbed browsing, extensible applications, etc. . .
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2MB makes a heckuva difference for us broadband folks. 😉
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Why the angst in trying something?

The 4 meg file size is not meant to say that you get a faster download - it is to illustrate that the codebase is leaner.
 
Not bad, not bad. I am K-Meleoning as I type. I'm green with envy that I didn't write something this nice!!

I'm a Firefoxer, but will give it a try. It worked fine on the few sites I have visitied so far. The only problem I had was I had to change my password to type this because I, uhhh couldn't remember it. Gulp.

Time to continue on, need more hot deals.
 
Originally posted by: chmike
In general, it's written for windows, so it's faster (esp. on slower or older systems, but also many 2+Ghz systems). Uses the same Gecko rendering engine. You can completely customize the look and functionality if you wish.
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It's based on the *same* code Mozilla & Firefox is based on. That code is standard C++. C++ is not unique to windows. The *exact* same code compiles just fine on any C++ compiler (MS Visual C++, gcc, suns compiler, etc...). There is nothing unique about this other than the outside looks....

K-Meleon is to Mozilla (Firefox) as Maxthon is to IE.
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Why the angst in trying something?
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We don't want to waste our time only to find out later there are serious problems.
There were some real issues with initial versions of Firefox. In fact, it still doesn't work right.
It takes a lot of effort to get all of the plug-ins working - like Flash, Java, Real Video, Windows Media Player, download managers, etc.
It took a lot of time to choose, install, and configure the Firefox extensions.
It also took some time and effort to configure the menu bar, the bookmarks toolbar, and the tabbed browsing - so that it works the way I want it to.
Now you want us to do all of that again? Just for the fun of it? No thanks.

 
i'd support anything that compete with IE. i'm just having too much "End Program" type of thing pop up lately.
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Originally posted by: episodic
It is much more customizable. It is the gecko browser for ppl that don't want all the option taken away.

It is lean only a 4 megabyte download (firefox is still around 6). . .

Has all the great things, tabbed browsing, extensible applications, etc. . .
Click to expand...

2MB makes a heckuva difference for us broadband folks. 😉
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Why the angst in trying something?

The 4 meg file size is not meant to say that you get a faster download - it is to illustrate that the codebase is leaner.
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I am all for trying alternative browsers, but I do not want to waste my time either.

I just looked at the download and it's 4.9MB for this vs 4.7 for Firefox. And Firefox is a full release that's been around for a while not a beta that will have to be expanded to cover a bunch of things that may not work.
 
It's based on the *same* code Mozilla & Firefox is based on. That code is standard C++. C++ is not unique to windows. The *exact* same code compiles just fine on any C++ compiler (MS Visual C++, gcc, suns compiler, etc...). There is nothing unique about this other than the outside looks....
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It's the same rendering engine, not the same code. Sure, you could compile it anywhere you had a compiler, but the XUL GUI (Mozilla, Firefox) is just too slow for many older machines.

Browsers with native toolkits, like K-Meleon or Galeon or Epiphany, fill this void. They use the excellent Mozilla rendering engine with fast, native widgets.

I personally give this out instead of Firefox to relatives and friends who don't need /want the whole Firefox experience (configuring plugins, extensions, etc), especially those with slower systems.
 
Originally posted by: emeraldsky
Originally posted by: episodic
Why the angst in trying something?
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We don't want to waste our time only to find out later there are serious problems.
There were some real issues with initial versions of Firefox. In fact, it still doesn't work right.
It takes a lot of effort to get all of the plug-ins working - like Flash, Java, Real Video, Windows Media Player, download managers, etc.
It took a lot of time to choose, install, and configure the Firefox extensions.
It also took some time and effort to configure the menu bar, the bookmarks toolbar, and the tabbed browsing - so that it works the way I want it to.
Now you want us to do all of that again? Just for the fun of it? No thanks.
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You're wasting your time right now posting on an internet forum. I think more specifically, you're not curious about a new browser on the market based on an existing engine. That's acceptable. I feel the same way, in fact. Firefox works well enough for me where I don't have any urge to try anything else.

I do have to ask, though, did you actually have trouble getting your plugins working in Firefox after version 0.8? I really didn't have any issues.
 

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You're wasting your time right now posting on an internet forum. I think more specifically, you're not curious about a new browser on the market based on an existing engine. That's acceptable. I feel the same way, in fact. Firefox works well enough for me where I don't have any urge to try anything else.

I do have to ask, though, did you actually have trouble getting your plugins working in Firefox after version 0.8? I really didn't have any issues.[/quote]

Ditto! I've not had one problem on either my desktop or this laptop with FF 1.0. No problems with Java, Flash, Media Player, etc. I'll let others beta test things for a while and stick with a proven performer. Of course, anything but IE!!

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Just for the heck of it I looked through the "Features" and screenshots of K-melon and as the saying goes, "Where's the Beef??" Other than "Mouse Gestures" I don't see anything much that Firefox doesn't already do (FF may even have mouse gestures but I haven't had the desire for this).
WTH though, I guess if you are concerned about using a bit less code AND the browser holds up without a crapload of problems, it's viable for some. Just not me. 😉
 
Firefox is becoming fairly popular and I fear that may bring increased risk of malicious code targeted just for us FF users. It's nice to konw that additionatl browsers are being developed. I'll give it a whirl.
 
There are FF extensions for mouse gestures. That's one of my favorite features. I like to be able to use the mouse to quickly go to the top or bottom of a page, especially in this forum.
I was one of the early adopters of FF, and it works the way I want it to, so I don't need or want a new web browser.
Up until the latest version of Java became available, I wasn't able to use USPS.com for label printing with FF. But it did work with IE.
I imagine you would have to reinstall most plugins to get them to work with K-Meleon - for what? They say it loads a little faster, but FF loads slow for me because I have a ton of extensions installed. I don't mind waiting because I know I've got the functionality I want. K-Meleon uses the same browser engine as FF, and I love the FF interface, so once again, no motivation to switch.
I can't play videos on cbsnews with either FF or IE. Otherwise, my plugins work fine.
My main point in this thread is that there's more to switching from FF to K-Meleon than just downloading and installing it. It'll take some time and effort to get it working your way.
 
Nice but not as many plugins as mozilla/firefox and harder to configure. Im not going to spend 30min trying to figure out how to configure the toolbar.

If IE just became more plugin friendly (just had one safe place to download all sorts of plugins for it like mozilla/firefox) id move back to IE. Since sp2 IE is much more viable, but ive come to love some firefox plugins and I just cant live without them.

Kmelon may be faster then firefox, I cant tell. But im going to go against what most people have to say and say IE is faster then firefox and now with serious protection in IE since sp2 its awsome. Just comes down to features now, I cannot live without firefoxes adblock plugin (plus other things)

😀
 
An alternate solution is always nice (or nice to have just in case). I'll try it. My firefox is not working right sometimes. It would from time to time freeze up, or not load certain pages correctly when IE can. Hmm... Anyway, I'll give it a shot. I hope this new browser has no conflicts with my IE or FF. By the way, I am using a stable 2.4gig mobile athlon at 1.65Vcore.
 
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