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Hot deal for those who like fine cookware

NolanRyan

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Anyone who knows anything about good pots and pans knows the All-Clad brand. It's some of the best.

Bed Bath and Beyond has the Emerilware set by All-Clad for $249.99 (7pc) and $349.99 (10pc). There is currently a $50 rebate which expires December 31, 2002 and current the store has a 20% off any item coupon circulating that I think is valid until November 16. On top of this, you also receive a free chrome pot rack when you purchase one of the sets. It's actually a pretty nice rack which retails for $69.99.

I picked up the 7pc set today for $249.99 - $50 rebate - $50 (20%) coupon = $149.99 plus the free pot rack

If you are in the market for some good cookware, this is a hot deal. The competition to this set is the Calphalon Commercial Nonstick set which retails for $399.99
 
Originally posted by: NolanRyan
Anyone who knows anything about good pots and pans knows the All-Clad brand. It's some of the best.

Bed Bath and Beyond has the Emerilware set by All-Clad for $249.99 (7pc) and $349.99 (10pc). There is currently a $50 rebate which expires December 31, 2002 and current the store has a 20% off any item coupon circulating that I think is valid until November 16. On top of this, you also receive a free chrome pot rack when you purchase one of the sets. It's actually a pretty nice rack which retails for $69.99.

I picked up the 7pc set today for $249.99 - $50 rebate - $50 (20%) coupon = $149.99 plus the free pot rack

If you are in the market for some good cookware, this is a hot deal. The competition to this set is the Calphalon Commercial Nonstick set which retails for $399.99


While surely being a nice set of cookware, I wouldn't say this is on par with the Calphalon commercial non-stick. $150 and a free pot rack makes it a good deal. There's no need to compare it with Calphalon's top of the line. All-Clad's normal line would compare more fairly with calphalon three ply line. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the emeralware is stainless exterior which the calphalon commercial has hard-anodized aluminum. I'll take the aluminum over steel for cooking anyday, unless you want to go completely stainless for the look.

 
Originally posted by: JameyF
Originally posted by: NolanRyan
Anyone who knows anything about good pots and pans knows the All-Clad brand. It's some of the best.

Bed Bath and Beyond has the Emerilware set by All-Clad for $249.99 (7pc) and $349.99 (10pc). There is currently a $50 rebate which expires December 31, 2002 and current the store has a 20% off any item coupon circulating that I think is valid until November 16. On top of this, you also receive a free chrome pot rack when you purchase one of the sets. It's actually a pretty nice rack which retails for $69.99.

I picked up the 7pc set today for $249.99 - $50 rebate - $50 (20%) coupon = $149.99 plus the free pot rack

If you are in the market for some good cookware, this is a hot deal. The competition to this set is the Calphalon Commercial Nonstick set which retails for $399.99


While surely being a nice set of cookware, I wouldn't say this is on par with the Calphalon commercial non-stick. $150 and a free pot rack makes it a good deal. There's no need to compare it with Calphalon's top of the line. All-Clad's normal line would compare more fairly with calphalon three ply line. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the emeralware is stainless exterior which the calphalon commercial has hard-anodized aluminum. I'll take the aluminum over steel for cooking anyday, unless you want to go completely stainless for the look.

I have read several reviews of this product online where it has been compared to the Calphalon Commercial line, not the Professional line. The Commercial line is reported to use a superior nonstick coating over the lesser Professional line. The Emerilware set and the Calphalon Commercial set are reported to use the same coating for the nonstick surface. If you compare them in the store, you can tell a distinct difference between the Calphalon Professional series and these other two sets.

The Emerilware set has hard-anodized aluminum exterior, just as the Calphalon Commercial; however, the Emerilware set has a much nicer exterior finish than the Commercial set. One of the biggest complainst of the Commercial line is its exterior finish.

 
I remember going to linens and things and seeing a lower end All Clad set there, I think it was this one(not really too sure though, it's been a while) and I thought it wasn't that high quality...but that's just my opinion
 
Originally posted by: TekDemon
I remember going to linens and things and seeing a lower end All Clad set there, I think it was this one(not really too sure though, it's been a while) and I thought it wasn't that high quality...but that's just my opinion

I remember...
I think it was this one(not really too sure though, it's been a while)
...but that's just my opinion

*C-O-M-E.... ON*
YA GOTTA BE KIDDIN' ME !!!
Was that supposed to be a CONTRIBUTION to this thread?????
 
Does anyone besides allclad make anything with a dark anodized exterior and a stainless interior? The allclad limited line is nice, but WAY to expensive for me to make mac & cheese with.
 
Originally posted by: KarmaWahoo
Originally posted by: TekDemon
I remember going to linens and things and seeing a lower end All Clad set there, I think it was this one(not really too sure though, it's been a while) and I thought it wasn't that high quality...but that's just my opinion

I remember...
I think it was this one(not really too sure though, it's been a while)
...but that's just my opinion

*C-O-M-E.... ON*
YA GOTTA BE KIDDIN' ME !!!
Was that supposed to be a CONTRIBUTION to this thread?????

Are you quite through yet? People like you are the reason Intelligence gathering is such a secretive task...too many idiots who dismiss even a minor detail as 'unworthy' of anyone's attentions. If you wanna be a snob, go elsewhere. As my icon would say, "Blow it out your ass."

Thanks for the lead Tek.....it is the lower-end (not the Professional), and it's not that good. It's the same thing they're selling at most retail stores (including Target, richardycc), and it's allright for everyday use.

I'm kinda split on this issue.....I can see where the Emerilware would easily be comparable to the Calphalon Professional, and perhaps the commercial. But like even JameyF said....the discounts and the rack make it a really nice deal.

 
Can I stick emerilware in a 500 degree oven and still have that considered acceptable use? That's all I care about. I don't know how this stuff compares to my regular All-Clad, but it needs to be as versatile as All-Clad for me to get real use out of it. Other than that, I *do* love cookwear!!
 
Originally posted by: Bobartig
Can I stick emerilware in a 500 degree oven and still have that considered acceptable use? That's all I care about. I don't know how this stuff compares to my regular All-Clad, but it needs to be as versatile as All-Clad for me to get real use out of it. Other than that, I *do* love cookwear!!

Emerilware is rated at 450 degrees and so is the other high-end All-Clad sets. I don't think any of it is rated at 500 degrees.

To my knowledge, the coupon isn't available online. I receive them periodically in the mail. If you go into the store though, you can probably find one around one of the registers that's unattended. I noticed that they were laying everywhere.

You can print the
rebate out here.
 
Guy better watch it. People were recently banned for asking for coupons.

If you care Consumer Reports current issue has cookware in it.
#1 was the Calphalon Commercial set that was like $500.
#2 was the Calphalon Simply Calphalon that was around $200
#3 was the Emerilware that was like $350
#4 was the Cook's Essentials that was like $125, but can only be bought at QVC.

Brands like T-FAL, Regal, Nordic Ware, Faberware, Meyer and more all fell far short of these 4 sets.

Mark
 
emerilware is not the high-end all-clad
remmeber that when you are comparing it against the calphalon lines
 
Originally posted by: wuhoo
emerilware is not the high-end all-clad
remmeber that when you are comparing it against the calphalon lines

It is the high-end NONSTICK All-Clad though.

In regards to the Consumer Reports issue, I don't agree with that at all b/c the Calphalon Professional is worlds better than the "Simply" line and the Emerilware is better than the Professional line. The Professional line isn't even on their list.

 
Originally posted by: markrb
Guy better watch it. People were recently banned for asking for coupons.

If you care Consumer Reports current issue has cookware in it.
#1 was the Calphalon Commercial set that was like $500.
#2 was the Calphalon Simply Calphalon that was around $200
#3 was the Emerilware that was like $350
#4 was the Cook's Essentials that was like $125, but can only be bought at QVC.

Brands like T-FAL, Regal, Nordic Ware, Faberware, Meyer and more all fell far short of these 4 sets.

Mark

consumer reports is a biased magazine, so take the ratings with a grain of salt. in fact, any sort of comparison testing where they rate things you need to read all of it before making a decision, and also do additional research. in this case, i seriously doubt that the actual quality of the simply calhpalon is better than emrilware. i think that itwas the price comparsion that won the simply calphalon over emerilware here

and no, i am not biased against calphalon, in fact i only buy calphalon. their collectors edition set is essentially their commercial lines on sale and that is what i usually buy. check amazon for those 🙂
 
All-Clad is among the finest ways too cook.

Non-stick surfaces aren't smooth so it's browning capabilities don't compare to all-clad's stainless steel. There are often substantial differences in browning or pan-frying on a non-stick surface versus a good stainless steel surface.

If you don't mind the extra clean-up on a stainless steel set. All-Clad is the way to go.

I have to admit. I cook regularly myself but the ease-of-use of a hard-adonized non-stick pan outweighs the quality of food you get when using a stainless steel set.

Haven't you guys noticed that professional cooks use stainless steel always over non stick surfaces.
 
Originally posted by: Quickfingerz
All-Clad is among the finest ways too cook.

Haven't you guys noticed that professional cooks use stainless steel always over non stick surfaces.

Not true. Many professionals shy away from stainless steel due to the fact that it conducts heat poorly as compared to aluminum.

 
As always, this thread has degraded into a quest for absolutes.

Professional chefs always this...
Calphalon is always that...

You want to see what professional chefs use, go look in a restaurant kitchen or spend some time in a restaurant supply house. Most professional cookware is aluminum, the vast majority of it, mainly because it's CHEAP and conducts heat well. Professional chefs aren't into buying the best and taking care of it, they buy on the cheap because they constantly destroy and replace their cookware and cutlery. There are some chefs that use their own fine knives, but I've yet to meet a chef who carries his/her own cookware.

Go look in a restaurant kitchen, most of the pans will be dented, bent, rubber handles burnt and scorched, bottoms of pans will be black with soot, most of the non-stick surfaces will be seriously scratched if not worn off all together. Most restaurant chefs I know use enough butter and oil that sticking is seldom a problem anyway.

Aluminum is not bad at all, It's not the prettiest thing to look at, and it sure is cheap and a good conductor. I use several restaurant supply pieces in my home kitchen. Would I like to have all All-clad? Sure, but I'd rather buy 1-2 all-clad pans and spend spend the extra money on a good set of knives or a kitchenaid mixer.

Pure aluminum is not as durable as steel, that's why All-clad sandwiches alum. between 2 layers of steel. Anodized aluminum (calphalon, Anolon, Circulon, etc.) is a harder form of aluminum, and it's pure aluminum.

The only cooking drawback to pure aluminum is that is will color acidic foods over time, tomato sauce, vinegary sauces, they react with the aluminum and marinara can become brown.

There need not be a debate about non-stick. Sometimes you want non-stick, sometimes you want a polished smooth metal surface. Take sauteing, I have an all-clad 11" stainless saute pan with a lid that I use to saute meats. It's presently the only all-clad pan that I own. I bought it for $79 in a Marshalls and felt guilty for weeks. This is one case where you want stickiness because the stuck-on bits (called "fond" by the french) can be picked up off of the pan by a liquid through a process called deglazing and make a damn flavorful sauce. There is no way to do this on a non-stick pan, it's just too slippery. On the other hand, you haven't experienced frustration until you've tried to scramble eggs without butter in a steel pan, non-stick makes it so much easier. Clearly, non-stick pans carry a health benefit as well, you're far less apt to use a lot of oil with them.

Saute and frypans are the only pans where it really matters. People who buy the All-clad saucepans to cook soup and boil water really could have done with a far lesser pan. They heat and distribute heat better, but when boiling water and other cooking liquids, it has a negligible impact. But I realize that these pans are damn pretty and look nicer when every pan on your rack is the same style and material.

Mine is not, and never will be. Mine looks like a hodgepodge.

I've said time and again, I don't believe in sets. There's nothing wrong with them, but they're only a bargain if you need and would use EVERY single pan and lid in the set. And I've yet to find a set where every pan was useful to me, there's always an ugly-cousin pan that never gets used.

Oh, and that person who wanted to put their pan in a 500 degree oven, that's not what they're designed to do. You want to do that, get a $10 cast iron, it'll do the duty, and many other things.

 
Thanks for the nice deal. I have been looking for a nice set myself.

mailnride is probably right. Professional chefs don't have time to bother with the latest fashionable cookware. What makes them good is their methods of cooking. No doubt tools can help but tools are more like toys for them. If you are good, you are good. Just like Pete Sampras can still kick my butt with a wooden racket even if I am using the latest technological advanced piece of equipment.

But I must confess, I am not a good chef but I love nice kitchen toys 🙂
 
I agree. There is a pot or pan for every task. I bought a calphalon commercial nonstick set the does very well for my needs. I can't believe how evenly the heat gets distributed. The top rim of a sauce pan is too hot to be touched when on the burner. I will add more from the set to it, but I also will probably get a stainless try-ply 10" or 12" omlette pan to use when I need to deglaze for sauces or throw it in the oven broiler. I have a 10" HA aluminum (not non-stick) that I use now. If you've ever tried to cook gravy in a nonstick you know there is a good reason companies still make stainless or plain hard anodized.
 
CALPHALON 4 QT. SAUTE PAN - PROFESSIONAL HARD ANODIZED - $30

(Thanks for the following deal goes to NewDealer on F*tWallet)

For a truly unbeatable deal on a 4qt Calphalon Saute Pan (Professional Series, Hard Anodized, with Lid), go to www.lnt.com (linens 'n things) and run a search for the following sku 292904.

The pan costs only $29.99!!

Look on your favorite coupon site to get at least a $5 discount.

This is really a top-notch saute pan.

And for those wishing to know, it's not a nonstick pan.

- Henry

 
consumer reports is a biased magazine, so take the ratings with a grain of salt. in fact, any sort of comparison testing where they rate things you need to read all of it before making a decision, and also do additional research. in this case, i seriously doubt that the actual quality of the simply calhpalon is better than emrilware. i think that itwas the price comparsion that won the simply calphalon over emerilware here

Gee, how is Consumer Reports biased?? They accept no advertising and do not allow manufacturers to mention there name in advertisements. What controlled tests have you done? The only thing that should be taken with a grain of salt is idiots who make baseless comments on message boards!!
 
Originally posted by: mailnride
There need not be a debate about non-stick. Sometimes you want non-stick, sometimes you want a polished smooth metal surface.

Exactly! And I want a SS interior to cook my mac and cheese in!
 
Gee, how is Consumer Reports biased?? They accept no advertising and do not allow manufacturers to mention there name in advertisements. What controlled tests have you done? The only thing that should be taken with a grain of salt is idiots who make baseless comments on message boards!!

I agree. They are not Biased by anything other then the natural biases any human generates over time. Most times I hear this is when
someone is trying to sell me something that wasn't rated well.
I do agree that they don't always included enough product, but I am sure it's more budget constraints then biases.
Since they buy everything they test. They get nothing from manufacturers directly for free.
I don't always agree with their tests. Sometimes I find things I like better.
What I like about the magazine is it gives me a good starting point to make my own choice.

Who are you going to trust more on a purchase, someone that tried one item and liked it or
someone that tried 10 and found differences among them.

From what I am reading here most seem to agree with their ratings anyway.
The only thing was that they didn't include the Pro line.

They never said the Anodized aluminum Emerilware was bad, in fact they liked it very much,
but they said based on their tests the Calphalon lines were as good or a little better.

I always take results like these with a grain of salt since they cannot know what my needs are, but
like I said it's a starting point to make up your own mind.

Mark
 
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