*HOT* BFG 6800GS /w 16 pipes stock for $194.99 + Shipping
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Can someone verify this? There are threads in the Video forum that say someone called BFG and they said it was a typo. The review on New Egg says they talked to BFG and they said it has 16 pipes. Sounds too good to be true IMO.
Well you can always return it with full refund if it is not 16pipes, because it says it is 16pipes and reviews also says it is 16pipes.
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The interesting thing is that this card is AGP.
Hmmm, claims 370MHz core clock. I see other AGP versions at 350MHz. I believe stock PCIe is 425MHz. Why the difference? Is it because of the bridge chip? This makes the eVGA 256-P2-N391-AX (for PCIe only) the best choice at 490MHz stock.
Hmmm, claims 370MHz core clock. I see other AGP versions at 350MHz. I believe stock PCIe is 425MHz. Why the difference? Is it because of the bridge chip? This makes the eVGA 256-P2-N391-AX (for PCIe only) the best choice at 490MHz stock.
I would go with the BFG 6800GS because it's 16 pipes to start with. No hassle, and warranty still in tact.
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It IS highly suspect since the core used in the 6800GS supposedly does not physically have the extra 4 pipes to be enabled.
For skunkbuster do you need PCIe or AGP? AFAIK the GTO² doesn't have an AGP counterpart (though it is possible) while the 6800GS has an AGP version that is lower clocked than the PCIe version. If you have AGP, perhaps look for one of the discounted X8--?? series for AGP with native 16 pipes. Seems like recent months have had a lot of AGP deals for the X800/X850 series. For PCIe, I think "stock" the performance of the 6800GS may be better. Overclocking and unlocking pipes is YMMV. My Connect3D X800GTO unlocked successfully, but didn't overclock very much in my testing with ATITool. At stock speeds and with 16 pipes, it performs about on par with the 6800GT it replaced (also running stock speeds, I have passive cooling on both). IIRC the performance of the PCIe 6800GS is similar to the PCIe 6800GT because the 4 fewer pipes is made up for by the higher clock speed. The AGP version of the 680GS defaults to a lower clock speed so a 16 pipe X8-- series would probably be faster.
For skunkbuster do you need PCIe or AGP? AFAIK the GTO² doesn't have an AGP counterpart (though it is possible) while the 6800GS has an AGP version that is lower clocked than the PCIe version. If you have AGP, perhaps look for one of the discounted X8--?? series for AGP with native 16 pipes. Seems like recent months have had a lot of AGP deals for the X800/X850 series. For PCIe, I think "stock" the performance of the 6800GS may be better. Overclocking and unlocking pipes is YMMV. My Connect3D X800GTO unlocked successfully, but didn't overclock very much in my testing with ATITool. At stock speeds and with 16 pipes, it performs about on par with the 6800GT it replaced (also running stock speeds, I have passive cooling on both). IIRC the performance of the PCIe 6800GS is similar to the PCIe 6800GT because the 4 fewer pipes is made up for by the higher clock speed. The AGP version of the 680GS defaults to a lower clock speed so a 16 pipe X8-- series would probably be faster.
It sounds to me like all the AGP GS's are going to be 16 pipe cards, and the PCIE GS's are going to be 12 pipe cards. I think nVidia killed off the PCIE GT, so they still have a back-stock of 16 pipe GT's that they need to dump on the market. The true 12 pipe GS might not be compatible with AGP, but the old 16 pipe GT definitely is. To further support this The 6800GT is default clocked at 350MHz, just like a default clocked 6800GS, and the 6800GS has a default clock of 425MHz.
I would go with the 6800GS/T simply because it supports PS 3.0 where the GTO2 is only PS 2.0 also new nVidia drivers will allow it to decode HD video on the card, unlike the GTO2. Hands down go with the 6800.
Any way you slice it this is a good deal great find OP.
I would go with the 6800GS/T simply because it supports PS 3.0 where the GTO2 is only PS 2.0 also new nVidia drivers will allow it to decode HD video on the card, unlike the GTO2. Hands down go with the 6800.
Any way you slice it this is a good deal great find OP.
I'd guess the same thing. To match the PCIe 6800GS speeds the 6800GS AGP is probably just a 6800GT with a new name.
The AGP version of the 6800GS is the NV40 core with 16 pipes available, 12 on by default.
The PCI-E version of the 6800GS is the NV42 core with 12 pipes, period.
The PCI-E version of the 6800GS is the NV42 core with 12 pipes, period.
Why you guys do this to me ;-)
So this or a 7800GT? Is a 7800GT worth $100 more? I know I would have to also buy a motherboard to support the 7800GT......
I think jonnythan's post above yours is likely the answer. This is an AGP 6800GS, using the NV40 core that has 16 pipes. However, 12 are usable by default, so from Newegg's point of view, it is appropriate to list 12.
6800GS is better than a ATI GTO2. It does DX9.0c eye candy. Where as ATI does only DX9.0. That is more pixel shader stuff. ATI=PS 1 vs Nvidia=PS 3 I think. Not really too noticable but nonetheless Nvidia is more future proof.
I read somewhere in these forums that Nvidia is coming out with a 7800GS AGP in February. Whether this is true. It would make sense for them to do it. A lot of money to be made by having people upgrade their cards.
I read somewhere in these forums that Nvidia is coming out with a 7800GS AGP in February. Whether this is true. It would make sense for them to do it. A lot of money to be made by having people upgrade their cards.
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