Hostage situation in Sydney

[Blanky]

Islam again.

Shocking.

Yeah, really. It is a culturally destructive force. Even original earl probably believes that deep down, but feels his belief is born of unfounded prejudice, so tries mightily to present a different front in the hope that saying the same thing over and over will make it so.

The number of otherwise peaceful people who have gone full retard after converting to Islam is staggering.

 

[fskimospy]

Theft attributed to race for no reason?

I was 14 at the time! You do realize I was the only white kid in the airport? You do realize the poverty that people live in on a day to day basis in that country?

The staffer put his hand out and I assumed he wanted a tic tac so I gave him one them he wrenched the whole packet out of my hands. But that is not odd at all. The event threw me as I couldn't believe someone would do that. I was scared.

The staffer had a very clear look of hatred in their eyes, a disdain that you just don't forget.

Clearly you have never existed outside the idealistic bubble that is the west. Clutch your self righteous opinions close to your chest and lecture from your soap box, but such opinions mean nothing in the real world.

I have spent a great deal of time outside of the west and have visited more than 30 countries and every continent except for Antarctica.

In fact, I was robbed at knifepoint in Manta, Ecuador once. It's possible that they were trying to get revenge for the actions of the conquistadors, but I think it's substantially more likely that they just wanted money. I didn't have time to ask though.

I don't really feel like discussing this any further, but I just want you to know that what you wrote was insane.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Yeah, really. It is a culturally destructive force. Even original earl probably believes that deep down, but feels his belief is born of unfounded prejudice, so tries mightily to present a different front in the hope that saying the same thing over and over will make it so.

The number of otherwise peaceful people who have gone full retard after converting to Islam is staggering.

Heh..on my end it seems I'm having to constantly repeat the same replies over and over to the same people.

Are you sure those peaceful people weren't retarded to begin with?
Who are you talking about?

 

[Jaskalas]

Fox details lead to an image of a violent criminal at the end of his rope, not a terrorist organization.

Islam again.

Shocking.

I believe you had the opportunity to know better.

This guy was a violent criminal, do you think only Islam has those? The label is misplaced and the use of it is not just questionable but reflects back on those who knowingly use it wrong.

No, this isn't Islam.

 

[Newell Steamer]

White person attacks/kills someone: he/she is a deranged individual - totally crazy,.. nothing to see here, move along.

Brown person attacks/kills someone: they represent all of 1.6 billion people and all 1.6 billion people are evil, bad and terrible, like this one person. He is totally not crazy.

http://news.yahoo.com/australian-hostage-taker-named-iranian-refugee-criminal-past-140521721.html

 

[Orignal Earl]

I believe you had the opportunity to know better.

This guy was a violent criminal, do you think only Islam has those? The label is misplaced and the use of it is not just questionable but reflects back on those who knowingly use it wrong.

No, this isn't Islam.

I't don't matter to these guys, they are sure it's Islam

 

[Peppertronica]

ok.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I believe you had the opportunity to know better.

This guy was a violent criminal, do you think only Islam has those? The label is misplaced and the use of it is not just questionable but reflects back on those who knowingly use it wrong.

No, this isn't Islam.

It's just easy to make assumptions that criminal acts such as killings and hostage situations are being done by fundamentalists seeking notoriety for their actions based on historical acts. Geopolitical media coverage tends to skew our perceptions and enforce more racial profiling.

It's interesting that the guy chose to take hostages in a chocolate store of all places. Maybe he had a sweet tooth and figured he'd have a food supply if the standoff takes days? It'd be less likely to see him take hostages at the Vegemite factory.

 

[Orignal Earl]

It's also difficult to take you seriously when you preach love and light yet have someone holding a gun as your avatar.

Oh ya, I forgot about this. You need to take a closer look I guess.
I go shooting all the time though, I don't know what that's got to do with anything

 

[Blanky]

Heh..on my end it seems I'm having to constantly repeat the same replies over and over to the same people.

Are you sure those peaceful people weren't retarded to begin with?
Who are you talking about?

So retarded people are more likely to join Islam? I would agree with that.

 

[Jaskalas]

So retarded people are more likely to join Islam? I would agree with that.

Disturbed people (for whatever reason) are more likely to do something stupid and/or violent and make the news.

As a healthy share of world population, many of them will happen to be Muslim.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So retarded people are more likely to join Islam? I would agree with that.

Who are the staggering amounts of people joining Islam and going full retard?

 

[Peppertronica]

ok.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Why can you not be serious?

Seriously just grow up.

I am starting to think the problem is you Americans, African Americans or European Americans or whatever you call yourselves.

Clearly their are some very consistently racist remarks, not just happening here in this topic but across this whole section of the forum I have noticed over the last month....what is that all about? It's disgusting to be honest.

Sure I say one or two things in the heat of the moment with this hostage situation but why do you people continue to act like this for weeks and months at a time?

I remember when we went to school in Ghana all the international students went to one school while you Americans went to your own separate school. I also remember none of the American expats mixed with the other expats from other countries. Gave the impression of a very arrogant and insular people.

Hi..My name is Jerry and I'm 51 years old. I'm Canadian and my peeps came from Norway and Ireland over a hundred years ago, there is some Scottish in me too.
May I ask how old you are? Also you keep typing their instead of there, we had a hard time teaching another fellow who posted here that.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Well, between all this squabbling in here the situation is resolved with a couple of hostages dead as well as the gunman.

 

[Peppertronica]

Yeah I just saw this. The whole thing is just sad.

 

[compuwiz1]

Most mass shooters and serial killers are Americans, most of them are right wing
The only time I have seen/received actual death threats came from a American right winger military officer on this board
The odds of me dieing from an American kook is extremely higher then a Muslim terrorist, yet I know 99% of Americans and all the ones I've met are good folk

Could you be anymore full of shit? I'm sure you meant left wing or democrats because that is what most of the recent shooters were. Go ahead and just pull stuff out of your ass as though it's fact. It's a widely known fact that liberalism is a mental disorder.

http://joeforamerica.com/2014/05/mass-murderers-democrats/

THE LIST:
– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg*istered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
– Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
– Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…
Read more at http://joeforamerica.com/2014/05/mass-murderers-democrats/

 

[Printer Bandit]

Islam needs a new PR person.

Maybe need to get on Twitter / Instagram more.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Could you be anymore full of shit? I'm sure you meant left wing or democrats because that is what most of the recent shooters were. Go ahead and just pull stuff out of your ass as though it's fact. It's a widely known fact that liberalism is a mental disorder.

http://joeforamerica.com/2014/05/mass-murderers-democrats/

THE LIST:
– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg*istered Democrat and Muslim.
– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter
– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.
– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat
– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.
– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.
– Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
– Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…
Read more at http://joeforamerica.com/2014/05/mass-murderers-democrats/

I'd have to say most on that list are pretty iffy, and sure is missing a lot

Here is a list of just the 25 worst cases of just mass shootings since '49

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/20-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-u-s-history-fast-facts/

 

[kage69]

I remember when we went to school in Ghana all the international students went to one school while you Americans went to your own separate school. I also remember none of the American expats mixed with the other expats from other countries. Gave the impression of a very arrogant and insular people.

Odd. Must be a Ghana thing. As an expat brat myself, I attended a non American school in the Middle East along with kids from Britain, Scotland, Denmark, Sweden, France, Portugal, South Africa, Kenya, Pakistan, India, and the Philippines. https://www.facebook.com/dessdoha

No idea where you're getting this "they didn't mix" story from though, that sounds like a load of horseshit to me. Trekking out to an in land sea area for camping, swimming and partying on the weekends was an institution over there when I was a kid, and my family was one of two from the States in a group numbering some 2 to 3 dozen expat families. Visiting other countries I found there to be similar situations there with expats.
Input like yours gives me the impression you simply have a problem with Americans. Did you not get invited to an expat party or something, still not over it?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Islam needs a new PR person.

Maybe need to get on Twitter / Instagram more.

It can't be done, way too many branches. Just like Christianity
I think the fact that the thousands of Imans, Muslim orgs, etc who publicly declare that Islam does not condone terrorism or violence should do though

 

[dmcowen674]

Hostage situation in Sydney

Well turns out he was a Taliban nut but they knew about but apparently didn't see that he was about to snap.

Glad he was killed, sad that two innocent bystanders were lost.

 

[fskimospy]

Could you be anymore full of shit? I'm sure you meant left wing or democrats because that is what most of the recent shooters were. Go ahead and just pull stuff out of your ass as though it's fact. It's a widely known fact that liberalism is a mental disorder.

http://joeforamerica.com/2014/05/mass-murderers-democrats/

THE LIST:

– Nidal Hasan – Ft Hood Shooter: Reg*istered Democrat and Muslim.

False. There is no party voter selection in either Virginia or Texas.

– Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter – black liberal/Obama voter

Probably true, but unsubstantiated.

– Seung-Hui Cho – Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.

False. Seung-Hui Cho was not an American citizen and could not register to vote even if he wanted to.

– James Holmes – the “Dark Knight”/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occu*py guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.

False. There appears to be no record of him being registered at all.

– Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.

– Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas – Leftist Democrat

Interesting that you're trying to call a fervent anti-government activist a leftist Democrat.

– James J. Lee who was the “green activist”/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel – progressive liberal Democrat.

Don't know about this one.

– Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter – Leftist, Marxist.

False, he had no political affiliation.

– Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.

Huh?

– Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters – families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.

False. There is no information as to the political affiliations of their parents.

– Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber – Leftist Democrat.
– Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat – killed Kennedy…
Read more at http://joeforamerica.com/2014/05/mass-murderers-democrats/

Those two were certainly leftists!

I could list all the conservatives who have murdered people, but what's the point? The thing most of these people had in common was that they were fucking nuts, not that they were a member of a party.

You were duped yet again.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Well turns out he was a Taliban nut but they knew about but apparently didn't see that he was about to snap.

Glad he was killed, sad that two innocent bystanders were lost.

Taliban and Iranian are two words that don't go together. I suppose anything is possible though when dealing with nutcases

 

[z1ggy]

So.. a friend just said SWAT rushes the place, bullets flying, etc. Any updates other than the typical left vs right blame game that's going on in here?